you asked for Stansbury replacements- here's a few names

[Coach34]

Gregg Marshall at Wichita State. Nine years at Winthrop never lowed than third in the league and won an NCAA game his last year. No Sweet 16 but he's never been anywhere bigger than Wichita State. Went from 9th to 5th in first two years there. (my 3rd choice)

Larry Shyatt - did not do well at Clemson, but his defense is the reason there are two crystal basketballs in Gainesville.

Tom Jankovich at Illinois State. Coached Juco ball, coached at Vandy, and coached under Bill Self. Has completely turned around Illinois State in two years. They were 15-16 the year before he got there then won 49 games in his first two years. And they are 8-0 this season. (my favorite)

Kerry Rupp at Louisiana Tech. Coached under Majerus. Took a dead program to decent in two year. Jury is still out a little and he's kind of older.

Collins or Wojciechowski at Duke. Winning pedigree. No nonsense. Without the academic restraints of Duke, they could flourish. Dawkins is doing well at Stanford, Brey has won at ND, so sitting on the Duke bench seems to be worth something.

Tommy Dempsey at Rider. 146-51 career record. MAAC COY in 2008...a win over Stansbury...2 Juco Final Four's..88-12 in Juco as a HC (my 2nd choice)

Bobby Lutz- Charlotte...5 NCAA's and 3 NIT's in 11 years...owns a win over Stansbury

And if you like the way Bruce Pearl coaches, his top guy is Tony Jones, and he will be a HC somewhere very soon.

 

[Coach34]

Gregg Marshall at Wichita State. Nine years at Winthrop never lowed than third in the league and won an NCAA game his last year. No Sweet 16 but he's never been anywhere bigger than Wichita State. Went from 9th to 5th in first two years there. (my 3rd choice)

Larry Shyatt - did not do well at Clemson, but his defense is the reason there are two crystal basketballs in Gainesville.

Tom Jankovich at Illinois State. Coached Juco ball, coached at Vandy, and coached under Bill Self. Has completely turned around Illinois State in two years. They were 15-16 the year before he got there then won 49 games in his first two years. And they are 8-0 this season. (my favorite)

Kerry Rupp at Louisiana Tech. Coached under Majerus. Took a dead program to decent in two year. Jury is still out a little and he's kind of older.

Collins or Wojciechowski at Duke. Winning pedigree. No nonsense. Without the academic restraints of Duke, they could flourish. Dawkins is doing well at Stanford, Brey has won at ND, so sitting on the Duke bench seems to be worth something.

Tommy Dempsey at Rider. 146-51 career record. MAAC COY in 2008...a win over Stansbury...2 Juco Final Four's..88-12 in Juco as a HC (my 2nd choice)

Bobby Lutz- Charlotte...5 NCAA's and 3 NIT's in 11 years...owns a win over Stansbury

And if you like the way Bruce Pearl coaches, his top guy is Tony Jones, and he will be a HC somewhere very soon.

 

[Coach34]

Gregg Marshall at Wichita State. Nine years at Winthrop never lowed than third in the league and won an NCAA game his last year. No Sweet 16 but he's never been anywhere bigger than Wichita State. Went from 9th to 5th in first two years there. (my 3rd choice)

Larry Shyatt - did not do well at Clemson, but his defense is the reason there are two crystal basketballs in Gainesville.

Tom Jankovich at Illinois State. Coached Juco ball, coached at Vandy, and coached under Bill Self. Has completely turned around Illinois State in two years. They were 15-16 the year before he got there then won 49 games in his first two years. And they are 8-0 this season. (my favorite)

Kerry Rupp at Louisiana Tech. Coached under Majerus. Took a dead program to decent in two year. Jury is still out a little and he's kind of older.

Collins or Wojciechowski at Duke. Winning pedigree. No nonsense. Without the academic restraints of Duke, they could flourish. Dawkins is doing well at Stanford, Brey has won at ND, so sitting on the Duke bench seems to be worth something.

Tommy Dempsey at Rider. 146-51 career record. MAAC COY in 2008...a win over Stansbury...2 Juco Final Four's..88-12 in Juco as a HC (my 2nd choice)

Bobby Lutz- Charlotte...5 NCAA's and 3 NIT's in 11 years...owns a win over Stansbury

And if you like the way Bruce Pearl coaches, his top guy is Tony Jones, and he will be a HC somewhere very soon.

 

[topbulldawg]

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[MedDawg]

Because otherwise, Stansbury has a LOT more accomplishments than those guys.

 

[MSUCostanza]

Nobody on that list is even close to an upgrade over what we have.

 

[Coach34]

Donovan was 35-20 at Marshall when Fla hired him...good for him they thought that was impressive enough

 

[EmoryBellard]

If we fired Stans to hire one of these cats, I cannot imagine anyone being impressed.

 

[Columbus Dawg]

because none of those coaches would be a major upgrade except for maybe Jankovich. It's not time to talk about firing Stansbury....yet.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

of VMI. Not only has he turned them from awful to good (for their conference of course, they're still not good), and it's very hard to recruit there. And VMI has always led the NCAA in scoring under him.

 

[GoState662]

This Guy

http://www.butlersports.c.../mtt/stevens_brad00.html

 

[MississippiHeavyMetalDawg]

What about Stan Heath? Bud Peterson? Wade Houston? Kevin O'Neal? Jim Harrick? John Pelphrey? Dennis Felton?

Surely, any of these guys could have a better record than Stansbury especially with the resources at Mississippi State.[/sarcasm]

Coach34, has your coaching career advanced to Division 1 yet? If not, why?

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Pretty decent list of coaches. You know, if we have an opening. Shyatt is going to get another job at some point.Marshall will be in a major conference within three years. The Duke assistants typically pick the job they want, so it will be interesting to see what Collins and Wojo do.

I love the way this argument shapes up. I wonder how people at Marshall felt when they hired Donovan? I remember when Coach K almost got fired at Duke after 83 before Dawkins, Amaker, Alarie, Bilas etc turned it around.

All that being said, I think Stansbury could retire in Starkville if he would rid himself of at least one of the suits on the bench and hire himself an X and O guy to help him with in game adjustments, zone offense, and substitution patters. And he should turn all the scheduling over to me and not let Byrne and Stricklin 17 it up again.

 

[Coach34]

If we fired Stans to hire one of these cats, I cannot imagine anyone being impressed.

what was Mullen's record?

 

[Coach34]

Because otherwise, Stansbury has a LOT more accomplishments than those guys.

than Donovan when he was hired, Bruce Pearl when he was hired, Tubby Smith when he was hired, Calipari before UMass hired him, and Jim Calhoun before UConn hired him....does that mean he is a better coach than any of them?

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

..you used to always diss Croom for being our affirmative action experiment (the same claim you would be making against Stansbury if Stansbury was African-American).

So I don't want to see a coach34 list until all the potential affirmative action candidates have been reviewed, exposed & eliminated.

 

[Boomerdog15]

I don't know if we could pull him from Missouri or not but I'd definitely try. Been to the elite 8 and sweet 16, and beat Calliparri last two times they've played each other.

 

[chewgumm]

are gonig to the final 4 again. I'd hvae a hard time getting rid of him. He's teh best recruiter in teh coutry....it can be argued.

 

[Coach34]

C'monnnnnnnn...

recruiting is based on people that actually attend school...you know that right?

 

[ScoobaDawg]

Tom Jankovich at Illinois State. Coached Juco ball, coached at Vandy, and coached under Bill Self. Has completely turned around Illinois State in two years. They were 15-16 the year before he got there then won 49 games in his first two years. And they are 8-0 this season. (my favorite)

We see how much you really know about this guy since his name is TIM not TOM.

 

[ScoobaDawg]

one of my top choices actually...
we will be playing him in just a few weeks. He is one to keep an eye on.

Ken_McDonald

 

[Ol Blue.sixpack]

one of my top choices actually...
we will be playing him in just a few weeks. He is one to keep an eye on.

Ken_McDonald

Ken had a great year last year, but he is currently in the early stages of a mid-life crisis. His wife just packed up and moved back to Texas and he had a "Andy Kennedy moment" on a recent road trip. Fortunately for him, he has Ray Harper on the bench to get him through the rough spots.

 

[00Dawg]

That's a good list circa spring of '98 when you're coming off 2 straight non-winning seasons and your coach is rumored to be involved in extracurriculars. I don't think it's up to snuff when you're coming off 2 straight NCAA berths and 3 straight divisional or conference tournament titles. Where's the candidates with credentials to match our current coach's at a level down? Where's our Anthony Grant? Our program gets better support than Bama's, and has a lot more recent success. Lutz looks like the only one in the ballpark, with Jankovich close.

 

[paindonthurt_]

Its the same reason we have player relation problems in my opinion. I can't understand why you'd substitute a guy who is getting hot. Stans has always done it. 17 if a guy is hot feed him the rock until he passes the hell out or gets not hot. Its simple. I really think he gets jealous of some of the players who don't adhere to exactly what he says to do.

I don't think his ego will allow him to hire someone and just let them run the offense.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Who would be on yours? Replying is not an admission that we need a new coach. Let's say for a moment Rick decides to leave us for whatever reason. No implications of being fired but the job is open after the season. In that case, who is on your list? Anyone got any serious viable names that are better than this list? I wonder how many calls Byrne would get about Stan Jones?

Edit: for....far

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Kirby - no thanks
Melvin Watkins - no thanks
Mike Davis - no thanks

 

[Seinfeld]

you're going to have a hard time getting the majority of the MSU fanbase to agree to firing a coach with more trophies than any other coach in MSU history in order to replace him with a big question mark. There may be 3 of 4 future studs on that list, but I'd be skeptical to say the least with any of them. I'll put it this way. If you were Greg Byrne and knew that you were about to fire one of the most successful and decorated coaches in MSU sports history, would you feel comfortable with anyone on the list, knowing that at least half of the MSU fanbase is already happy with Rick?

I'm to the point of saying that I'd listen to an argument supporting firing Rick, but that's really only because I think that 10 years is about the max lifespan of any coach and I'm sick of the internal issues with the program. I feel that Stans has lost some of the fire, and it may be time to go in a new direction. That said, I'd want to see the name of a top notch assistant or a proven winner at another school before being 100% on board.

 

[TX Mud Dawg]

when Tubby was let go at Kentucky that some of us were worried Rick may end up leaving us and here we are today talking about what new coach we would like to have. Granted the last two years we have not lived up to expectations but we did end up winning the SEC championship last year. I know its just a list but lets see how the rest of the season goes. It doesn't matter if we struggle some early because we all know its how you play come March. That said Im still disappointed in the way our team has played but I still think we can make a run in the SEC and have a shot at the Sweet 16.

 

[chewgumm]

Yo know that is right.

 

[Coach34]

Micheal Jordan too, because he played as many minutes for us as Sidney, Bender, Outlaw, and Ellis- a coach only gets credit for players that make it to campus- not guys that had no intention of coming...Does the Ohio State coach get credit for LeBron committing to them?

 

[TBonewannabe]

Nobody expected Outlaw to go until right before the draft when apparently Portland loved him. As for Ellis, he went in the 2nd round and it was only the 2nd time that a guard that small had ever been drafted out of high school. So I think you count those guys for being signed. It is not even remotely close to the Lebron situation.

 

[Coach34]

they were about the draft all the way...I dont know about Bender

 

[oldawg]

My opinion is that there is no one on that particular list who would make a better coach for MSU at the present time than Rick Stansbury. What I would like to see are your credentials as a coach that you think allow you to make such comparisons. Just add them to your signature for all to see and if I'm impressed I'll pay more attention to your Stansbury rants. Rick's creds and accomplishments are published and can be found, among other places, on page 7 of the free game programs you can pick up at any home game.

 

[nwtfdog]

I can not believe you called him the best recruiter in the nation.

 

[MedDawg]

I can't imagine there's a coach we could get that would do a better job of landing the 2011 Mississippi blue chippers. Stans has been on them for many years. Let's see which he can land from that group and what he does with them. It could turn out to be a 'lucky' recruiting class like John Brady got from Baton Rouge and nearby in Louisiana that got him to the Final Four. If it's so easy to just go get a winning coach that goes to multiple Sweet Sixteens, then how come Arkansas, Bama, Auburn, Mississippi, Vanderbilt, and South Carolina haven't been able to do it? How many coaches have been fired from SEC schools since Stansbury has been hired? If we fire Stansbury and hire one of Coach34's choices, how long do we give them to succeed? Do we then fire him and pick another? Coach34's method for hiring a new coach seems to be to just keep hiring and firing until we find a winner.

 

[nwtfdog]

do you not know about stansbury and aau players?

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Trust me on this one. He played everyone at State but he never once intended to come. The McD's game just gave him an easy out, but he was not coming.

 

[Hanmudog]

How damn stupid would we look firing Stansbury and leaving the door open for Kennedy to come in and take the 2011 recruting class? Furthermore, has everyone completely forgotten where we were picked to finish in the SEC last year? No matter what some of you are saying, Rick did NOT underchieve last year. He took a team with two experienced players and won the SEC tournament and made the NCAAs. Preseason everyone on here was predicting an NIT berth at best in 2009.
We are 7 games into this season for crying out loud. How about everyone take a deep breath and let the season play out.

 

[Coach34]

Who's to say the new guy wouldnt do even better?

We know Stansbury isnt going anywhere for a couple of years. I was asked for a list- I provided a very good one. Dont get your panties in a wad

 

[ScoobaDawg]

whats the deal?

I do know they are off to a bad start this season and just got whopped up by Horn and south carolina which preeded him as coach at WKU.