You can cry and whine about coach34

[gravedigger]

all you want.

He has satisfied my intuition that he knows a thing or two about the game of basketball.l

I've been in the locker room of pathethic coaches such as Hatfield a nd Boyd.

I' ve witnessed the difference in attitude of Williams and Stansbury.

But I know the difference between a phenom recruiter and a bb coach when I see one. YOu can cry me a river about what we should or shouldnt do going forward. Fact is coach34 is right and you cant deny it. Stans isnt getting the job done with the talent he has. IS that worth dumping?

Hell, I''ll be the first ****** to say no. I'd rather trade the idea of decent success for the possibility of ultimate success and that is just worthless. Either get busy living or get busy dying.

Sorrry. Call me whatever you want. I love what Rick has done but it is time to get better or go back to 1983.

 

[gravedigger]

all you want.

He has satisfied my intuition that he knows a thing or two about the game of basketball.l

I've been in the locker room of pathethic coaches such as Hatfield a nd Boyd.

I' ve witnessed the difference in attitude of Williams and Stansbury.

But I know the difference between a phenom recruiter and a bb coach when I see one. YOu can cry me a river about what we should or shouldnt do going forward. Fact is coach34 is right and you cant deny it. Stans isnt getting the job done with the talent he has. IS that worth dumping?

Hell, I''ll be the first ****** to say no. I'd rather trade the idea of decent success for the possibility of ultimate success and that is just worthless. Either get busy living or get busy dying.

Sorrry. Call me whatever you want. I love what Rick has done but it is time to get better or go back to 1983.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

I believe I would have held this till after a loss.

 

[Indndawg]

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[fieldman]

unbelievable

 

[MSUbravesfan]

nfm

 

[Coach34]

another convert

 

[whatever.sixpack]

The problem is that everyone on here knows and admits that Stans isn't a great offensive coach, that's nothing new. But what gets overlooked is that he gets great effort on the defensive end and in rebounding, which are underrated aspects of the game that are just as important. You always take for granted what you do well, and what we've done well on the whole has been good enough to make 7 out of the last 9 NCAA tournaments.
Not to mention locking down the state in recruiting and developing a good many players that weren't that highly sought after.</p>

 

[Hanmudog]

You just joined the DouchebagswhohateStansmoretthantheyloveMSU club. Seriously, what kind of freaking fan ignores the fact that we just won by 50+ in favor of ripping on the coach? That membership also entitles you to the Les Miles fan club.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

....I don't expect a typical sports messageboard to be dominated by esteemed intellectuals, but it takes the cake how so many people here are willing to worship at the feet of the biggest know-nothing dumbass in the history of sports message boards.

If I see one more idiot asking 34 a question, or asking 34 for advise, or asking 34 to share his ignorant opinion, or singing the praises of 34's unparalled grasp of sports knowledge, I think I'll puke.

All 34 does is use this board to ***** & gripe. Then some nut comes along & blames the community of bitching & griping about 34.

 

[jamdawg96]

and you post this ****? Get a life, *****.

 

[Coach34]

67-0 on homecoming over a smaller school...didnt make me a genius or Vince Lombardi....its what you do against good teams that matter

 

[markymark.sixpack]

at least you fit in better.

 

[wbc40]

67-0 on homecoming over a smaller school...didnt make me a genius or Vince Lombardi....<span style="font-weight: bold;">its what you do against good teams that matter</span>

Probably why you aren't coaching anymore.

 

[whatever.sixpack]

67-0 on homecoming over a smaller school...didnt make me a genius or Vince Lombardi....its what you do against good teams that matter

Why did you give that up anyway? Maybe if you were still coaching academy middle schoolers you wouldn't be on the board more than Dawgstudent

 

[jamdawg96]

we haven't played a good team yet, right? But we didn't play some lowly homecoming opponent today, either. They led the nation in FG percentage coming in, and as I said earlier, have lost two games to teams that were undefeated at the time (St. John lost to Duke by 9 today) by a total of four points. I know it's pointless to look at who beat who beat who, etc... But this was a step in the right direction today. We played good defense, hit the boards, and made the outside shots that made us successful at times last year. Choke on a cow dick if you have something negative to say about that.

 

[thunderclap]

None of this **** matters under mid-February. Then you can moan and scream all you want. But damn it's Dec. 5.

 

[gravedigger]

Stans is a great recruiter. THat is is 51% of the equation as you could see by my questions to coach34. I personally think Stans is the best option for us until someone shows me otherswise.. Coach is big on calling out rick and sayiing we need to move on up.
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******** I say until you have a better plan. Then again, if he does have a better plan, and coach, then we need to shut the fu ck up too.

To each his own.

Amazes me how pussified sixpack can be sometimes. Coach may not have the most popular opinion, nor the most logical, but you should at least acknowlege it as sensical.

or shut the hell up.</p>

 

[Coach34]

i'm not coaching now because I make twice the money while working half the hours...winning has never been a problem

 

[Hanmudog]

Guess that minimum wage increase really helped the Peaches family Christmas fund.

 

[gravedigger]

and you post this ****? Get a life, *****.

after a 40 pt win. I know this because I can read something about basketball other than a final score.

Grow up, get a life. and come with something better.

I ***** slapped better 13 years ago in basic training in the army.

Tell me something you know about basketball.

 

[fieldman]

so I will assume you weren't there. It was domination from the get go. We won by 50. Calling for a coaches head after a 50 point win is ludicrous

 

[LightninInside]

Whether his opinion on this matter is good or stupid, you need to know that gravedigger is liked by everyone he comes in contact with. You should be lucky to have a friend like him.

 

[rhs43]

we should be 7-0. Just not too long ago we were running the table or losing maybe one or two games out of conference with less talent, but lately we seem to piss away the chance at a good seeding in the tourney in the first half of the season. Hopefully things will start to go good from here on out, but you can't wait until conference play to start playing good and winning. Two loses this young in the season is very disappointing, and I'm sick of it happening every year. I'm not calling for Stans to be fired, but come on people. Are you freaking blind to the fact that we cannot lose games we have been losing the last few years. Well I can see it, and I hate it. I'm not pulling for us to lose. I love Rick as our coach, but he obviously needs to re-evaluate some things, and get back to beating the 17 out of every nobody we play.

 

[jamdawg96]

while working on a regional, syndicated radio show. I've been to SEC basketball tournaments and the NCAA tournament as a member of the media. I interviewed every coach in the league via teleconference, on-air, or after games between 2005 and 2008 before leaving work to attend grad school.

I don't have to explain my basketball knowledge to an *** clown like you.

By the way, you criticize my "get a life" comment, and then use it yourself in the same post? Nice.

 

[wbc40]

As far as district titles, north/south half titles, etc. I would say state titles, but you clearly have never won one of those. I can't wait to see why you "quit," Salesman34.

 

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

No one should be criticizing after a 50 point win. Neither should anyone kid themselves that St. Bonn is even remotely a good team. They are however, a decent name win, since they are from the A-10. We do have as much talent as anyone in our conference, and I say that after watching UK-UNC today. UM, UT, VU, UK, us and maybe USC will be decent this year, but even with the disappointing losses I can easily see us winning 12 SEC games. The problem is the stupid non-conference games will make us an 8 seed instead of the 4 seed we have the talent and ability to be.

Stans will learn which lineup works best and how to manage his team by the time we get to SEC play. It works like this almost every year. I just don't get the lack of play in the non-con schedule the past several years. I do not think getting rid of Stans would be a good idea at all though. Some new bench coaches? maybe...

 

[paindonthurt_]

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[paindonthurt_]

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[ColonelJohnSartoris]

that thought getting rid of a coach after a winning season and a convincing Liberty Bowl win was ridiculous. Winning is an illusion. It's fairly easy to tell after 10 years if a coach has it or he doesn't. Stansbury is a great recruiter and always has been. In his early years, you just thought he was unlucky that some of his recruits chose to go to the NBA rather than show up at Starkville...that if the Outlaws, Ellises and Benders chose to show up in Starkville instead things would be much better and it was these missing pieces that kept him from really taking Miss State to that next level.

He always seems to have the talent in place but it never really pans out.

We once had a coach that was good at recruiting and thought he could learn the coaching aspect on the job or hire assistants that could teach the Xs and Os. Yeah, Ed Orgeron never really panned out and is back doing what he does best - strictly recruiting.

At some point a coach's talents become fairly obvious and a 50 point win doesn't masquerade that deficiency.

 

[HD6]

you now have an Ole Miss fan trying to defend you by making a Rick Stansbury=Ed Orgeron argument. That's SEC Championship, two SEC Tournament Championships, 5 SEC West Title, 6 NCAA tournament appearance Rick Stansbury=9-27 Ed Orgeron.

Easily the most ridiculous analogy ever made on this board, and that is saying something.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Just because you have heard of St. Bonaventure's does not make them a good win. They are at best picked in the lower half of the 14 team Atlantic 10. The coaches and media both had them at 11th. By February this win will look like what it was. A blowout over a bad team.

 

[Hanmudog]

Comparing Croom's firing to Stanbury's situation is at best moronic. Croom was fired after a losing season and getting trounced by his instate rival. Stansbury has been to post season play just about every year and owns his instate rival for the most part even though AK is trying to make it respectable. Stansbury is the all time winningest basketball coach at MSU and has an SEC torunament title as recently as about 250 days ago. Quite possibly the worst analogy in the history of this board and that is being kind.
Oh yeah, last I checked winning is not an "illusion". You did not imagine 41-27 did you now? WTF?

 

[ColonelJohnSartoris]

Orgeron and Stansbury were never equated. My bringing him up was just to bring about an extreme similarity. Obviously Stansbury has had success; so has Les Miles, Phil Fulmer, Tubby Smith and Ron Polk.

I'm not defending any poster but the idea of entertaining coaching changes. Do you fault Kentucky for getting rid of Tubby Smith when they did? What about LSU fans for wanting to get rid of Les Miles? Arkansas fans wanting to get rid of Nutt? Programs experience sustained success all the time and believe their programs should be winning more and the current coach isn't the one to do it. It's nothing new to Miss State and Rick Stansbury. At times a coach's deficiencies become evident and decisions should be made.

I only mentioned Croom for the winning sometimes being an illusion part. I don't mean winning is an illusion itself, but that winning sometimes hides defects. Charlie Weiss and Notre Dame win games. LSU and Les Miles win game. Heck, even most of you claim Ole Miss and Houston Nutt to win games and in most of these examples the winning isn't as much as the coaches as it is the talent these teams have. "Miles won a BCS championship with Saban's recruits" - SixPack. "Nutt won all those games with Orgeron's players and the winning has nothing to do with him" - Hogville and SixPack.

Obviously each situation between a coach and a school is unique and has many other factors so before you say it - no, I'm not equating to Stansbury to each of these coaches but parts of each situation is similar. Sometimes talent wins because of talent and minor coaching and the frustration arises because you know a superior "coach" could take this talent so much further.

 

[Beretta.sixpack]

I''ll be the first ****** to say <span style="text-decoration:line-through">no</span> yes.

just sayin.....

 

[MagnoliaHunter]

How come you couldn't get a million dollar job coaching at one of the big colleges? Or even at a big high school?

you stupid 17er. 17, you are stupid.