You get one athlete to break one sports record

KopiKat

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But that is just a two game deal, sort of like some one hitting six homers in a game. It is just a fluke.

Just a two game deal (record) that would require somebody to throw 3 no hitters in 3 consecutive starts in order to break. No matter what you want to say about it, it is the most unbreakable record in sport.

That anybody ever achieved the feat of consecutive no hitters is not simply a fluke. It took some damn good pitching for 18 straight innings to pull that off. A no hitter by itself is not merely a fluke. Hitting for the cycle? That is often an example of a fluke because the difference between a double becoming a triple is often a matter of luck, as is a ball that just barely makes it over the fence for a home run which otherwise could have bounced off the wall and held a runner at first base in some circumstances. Anybody ever hit for the cycle in consecutive games?

That's the great thing about baseball. A small number of things can add up quickly and become a huge deal, such as when Nolan Ryan threw his 6th or 7th no hitter the same night Ricky Henderson became the all time steals leader. Guess which story was bigger. Henderson still butt-hurt over it.
 
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This. Not only will 5714 strikeouts absolutely never be broken, it won't even be remotely approached.


Part of Ryan getting that many strikeouts is the fact that is all he pitched for. He tried to strike out every batter regardless of the situation, never pitched to score or game and most definitely hurt his career win percentage and ERA by pitching for just strikeouts. His stubbornness to change his style is one of the reasons he bounced around the league so much for someone of his ability. He is basically the pitching equivalent of the hitter who tries for homeruns ever at bat regardless of the game, situation or score.
 

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That is an interesting point . . . but I still disagree. It was 37 years between TC winners (and I know, several should have/could have won, e.g., Point Given, Smarty Jones, Real Quiet), and to pull it off, and then the BC Classic? I don't know. Even last year, had California Chrome and Beholder not been injured, it was by no means a certainty that Pharoah wins at Keeneland.
I certainly get what you are saying. It's an interesting conversation. I do think you will have more TC champions in the near future for the reasons I stated earlier. I don't think people realize the difference the point system makes over graded stakes earnings.
I blew it bad yesterday. My grandfather was a jockey and then an outrider on the NYRA circuit for his entire career and my grandmother's name was Loretta. Sweet Loretta won the Schuylerville yesterday at 9/2 odds. I didn't bet on her. I had to explain to my mother how stupid hunch bets are even though I was wrong.
 

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Part of Ryan getting that many strikeouts is the fact that is all he pitched for. He tried to strike out every batter regardless of the situation, never pitched to score or game and most definitely hurt his career win percentage and ERA by pitching for just strikeouts. His stubbornness to change his style is one of the reasons he bounced around the league so much for someone of his ability. He is basically the pitching equivalent of the hitter who tries for homeruns ever at bat regardless of the game, situation or score.

Don't agree at all, but so what, his K record is beyond comprehension.
 

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Terry Bradshaw, Tom Brady and Joe Montana have 4 Super Bowl championships as starting quarterbacks. If Teddy Bridgewater could play his entire career with one franchise and get 5...
I would be happy if he just got 1. The only team that I follow that has never won a Championship.