You might as well quit bitching. Stans will be the coach next year.....

[Goat Holder II]

I don't know whether I like it or not.

But remember, we were dealt a bad hand to begin with this year with Sidney's NCAA %+%#$*+. I know it seems like ancient history and I know we have our own internal struggles, but it is what it is. Stans will get next year to make the tournament.

Our talent is down. Yeah, I know, that's Stans fault. We should not be losing to Auburn, though, with guys like Bost and Sidney. It's really unexplainable why he can't win these games - it's really not asking that much to do. Auburn sucks.

 

[Goat Holder II]

I don't know whether I like it or not.

But remember, we were dealt a bad hand to begin with this year with Sidney's NCAA %+%#$*+. I know it seems like ancient history and I know we have our own internal struggles, but it is what it is. Stans will get next year to make the tournament.

Our talent is down. Yeah, I know, that's Stans fault. We should not be losing to Auburn, though, with guys like Bost and Sidney. It's really unexplainable why he can't win these games - it's really not asking that much to do. Auburn sucks.

 

[MSUCostanza]

Not many folks thought Croom would get shown the door, either.<div>
</div><div>Yes, Stansbury (deservedly) has a longer leash than Croom. But he is killing this program right now. We have talent. I don't want to see him ruin the new players he's bringing in like he's ruined all the others lately. Somewhere along the line, he has completely lost it and it's time to cut him loose now before he Sherrill-izes our basketball program.</div><div>
</div><div>
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[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

He has to know he has lost almost all his support he had coming into this year. The poor on court performance coupled with the complete embarrassment off court should be the end of the trail.

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

something about him has changed this year, I think he has resigned himself to leaving after this year's schedule plays out. Frankly, I think he's burned out and just not that interested anymore.

 

[Shmuley]

and organize the rally that leads ultimately to the ouster of Mubarick. Let's go students. Get your asses to the drill field and set up the tents. Time to bring the Ricktatorship to an ignominious end.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...when I look at Stansbury, I see a man desperate for a change in scenery.


He had a decent run @ MSU, but the glory has departed.

 

[drt7891]

What will hurt worse... a buyout on Stans' contract, or an empty arena every game? With the amount of season tickets I have seen up for sale this year alone, I don't think we will be looking at a big demand for tickets next year. The payoff was huge with Croom because we went from halfway filling up our stadium to sellouts every game and ticket prices on the rise. <div>
</div><div>EDIT: Not only that, lack of support from doners, as well. It's all about the alumni... and their money...</div>

 

[medearis]

The man has earned one more year. He won the west last year. Next year sets up decently for him to either redeem himself of prove he's done. This year can't end soon enough, then hopefully get bost and sidney back, get moultrie, get the freshmen in...get rid of ravern for good. He's not going anywhere and you are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. He's won 23 games or more in 6 of the last 10 years, including 3 of the last 4.

This is like Ole Miss's fans and how they think of their football team. "Fire Cutcliff, hire Orgeron." Yeah right. And don't compare it to Croom. Croom had one seven win regular season in 5 years. And 3, 3, 3, and 4 wins in his other seasons. Again, Stansbury has 23 wins or more in 3 of his last 4 (including this year as the 1).

1998–1999 Mississippi State 20–13 8–8 T–3rd (West) NIT 1st Round
1999–2000 Mississippi State 14–16 5–11 T–5th (West)
2000–2001 Mississippi State 18–13 7–9 T–4th (West) NIT Quarterfinals
2001–2002 Mississippi State 27–8 10–6 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2002–2003 Mississippi State 21–10 9–7 1st (West) NCAA 1st Round
2003–2004 Mississippi State 26–4 14–2 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2004–2005 Mississippi State 23–11 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2005–2006 Mississippi State 15–15 5–11 5th (West)
2006–2007 Mississippi State 21–14 8–8 T–1st (West) NIT Final Four
2007–2008 Mississippi State 23–11 12–4 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2008–2009 Mississippi State 23–13 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2009–2010 Mississippi State 24–12 9–7 T–1st (West) NIT 2nd Round

 

[drt7891]

This isn't about wins and losses. Stans has lost all control of this team. It is obvious on the court by the blown leads, lack of effort, lack of teamwork, and overall lack of discipline. Not only that, our off the court issues have really thrown this into the spotlight. The fact we have had 4 players combine for 26 games suspended this year, and one in particular has been suspended twice (should have been 3 times) in the last 2 months AFTER his year and a half suspension by the NCAA is just ridiculous. Stans has no control over this team and he will not get it back by next year.

 

[Todd4State]

I think the Hawaii incident pushed it over the top. Up until then, I think he had a decent leash and probably would have been back, but that was a major blackeye for the school.

With LT, he would get a contract extension, and would be forced out three years after this when the cigar boys would finally say "enough".

But LT ain't here anymore.

I have faith that Stricklin will make the right decision, but if he does decide to keep Stansbury, I would like an exaplanation.

 

[Coach34]

The man has earned one more year. He won the west last year. Next year sets up decently for him to either redeem himself of prove he's done. This year can't end soon enough, then hopefully get bost and sidney back, get moultrie, get the freshmen in...get rid of ravern for good. He's not going anywhere and you are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. He's won 23 games or more in 6 of the last 10 years, including 3 of the last 4.

This is like Ole Miss's fans and how they think of their football team. "Fire Cutcliff, hire Orgeron." Yeah right. And don't compare it to Croom. Croom had one seven win regular season in 5 years. And 3, 3, 3, and 4 wins in his other seasons. Again, Stansbury has 23 wins or more in 3 of his last 4 (including this year as the 1).

1998–1999 Mississippi State 20–13 8–8 T–3rd (West) NIT 1st Round
1999–2000 Mississippi State 14–16 5–11 T–5th (West)
2000–2001 Mississippi State 18–13 7–9 T–4th (West) NIT Quarterfinals
2001–2002 Mississippi State 27–8 10–6 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2002–2003 Mississippi State 21–10 9–7 1st (West) NCAA 1st Round
2003–2004 Mississippi State 26–4 14–2 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2004–2005 Mississippi State 23–11 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2005–2006 Mississippi State 15–15 5–11 5th (West)
2006–2007 Mississippi State 21–14 8–8 T–1st (West) NIT Final Four
2007–2008 Mississippi State 23–11 12–4 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2008–2009 Mississippi State 23–13 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2009–2010 Mississippi State 24–12 9–7 T–1st (West) NIT 2nd Round

He should write a 17'ing book on how to trick a fanbase with 20 wins.

You have 14-15 OOC games- make sure 13 of them are against doorknob teams to ensure a good 12-13 wins...SOS be damned- we need wins over Alabama State to make sure we get that total up and keep the sheep happy.

Then go about.500 in the league while playing in the weak side of the conference (we are 43-37 the last 5 years)...now you are at 20-21 wins and the average fan is none the wiser. They think you have actually accomplished something great

 

[Indndawg]

duasioasud

 

[bulliegolfer]

When he flirted with the idea of going to Clemson last year, that was a sign that felt he was losing his support here and was ready for a change. No way he is getting any other offers this year, but he has to know his fan support is gone. If the rest of the year plays out like a train wreck, I think he resigns. If he manages to go 500 for the year, I think he will try to hang on for another year.

 

[windcrysmary]

"MSU should be estatic to have a coach whose only had 3 losing seasons in 12-13 seasons"..."what do they expect, afterall they are MSU " ...etc...

it'll be Cutcliffesque no matter how obvious the dfferences of the situations are/was

 

[TBonewannabe]

The NCAA tourney he has always sucked. He almost always gets outcoached when his team doesn't have better athletes. There has been examples of great coaching but they are few and far between. We get to 20 wins due to having a lot better players than the teams we play. His recruiting relies on the state of MS having great talent. When the state is down so is his recruiting. He occasionally pulls in a guy from TN, LA, or AL. Most of the time just from MS though.

 

[hotdigitydog]

not going anywhere.......Granted he's under achieved big time, but he has had some moderate success and he can and will fall back on those laurelsfor the time being.......I think he gets one more year and that will decide his fate........For now, he's safe........We'll be talking about this **** the same time next year........Wait and see......

 

[Todd4State]

"MSU should be estatic to have a coach whose only had 3 losing seasons in 12-13 seasons"..."what do they expect, afterall they are MSU " ...etc...



it'll be Cutcliffesque no matter how obvious the dfferences of the situations are/was

Cutcliffe never, ever, ever had two of his players get into a fight on national TV. Stansbury is getting ripped left and right by the media. Cutcliffe was seen as a "good guy" by the media.

I think the media will actually say that we are doing the right thing because they think- and are right- that our program is out of control.

 

[windcrysmary]

keeping him might hurt us more PR wise than moving on with a fresh face...

 

[maroonmadman]

There isn't enough support for firing Stans among the influential - re. big $$$ boosters - for this to happen, yet. There's also a big split among the average Joe MSUFan crowd as well. It may be the prevelant line of thought here on SPS but it hasn't caught on with the rest of the fans, their still split with the keep Stans crowd still hanging on to a slim majority in my opinion. There's still a lot of b-ball left for Stans to pull off some sort of miracle or tank completely and seal his demise. He may say 17 it and 'retire' but I don't see him being fired. I'll be surprised - and pleasantly so I might add -if either happens.

 

[medearis]

The man has earned one more year. He won the west last year. Next year sets up decently for him to either redeem himself of prove he's done. This year can't end soon enough, then hopefully get bost and sidney back, get moultrie, get the freshmen in...get rid of ravern for good. He's not going anywhere and you are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. He's won 23 games or more in 6 of the last 10 years, including 3 of the last 4.

This is like Ole Miss's fans and how they think of their football team. "Fire Cutcliff, hire Orgeron." Yeah right. And don't compare it to Croom. Croom had one seven win regular season in 5 years. And 3, 3, 3, and 4 wins in his other seasons. Again, Stansbury has 23 wins or more in 3 of his last 4 (including this year as the 1).

1998–1999 Mississippi State 20–13 8–8 T–3rd (West) NIT 1st Round
1999–2000 Mississippi State 14–16 5–11 T–5th (West)
2000–2001 Mississippi State 18–13 7–9 T–4th (West) NIT Quarterfinals
2001–2002 Mississippi State 27–8 10–6 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2002–2003 Mississippi State 21–10 9–7 1st (West) NCAA 1st Round
2003–2004 Mississippi State 26–4 14–2 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2004–2005 Mississippi State 23–11 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2005–2006 Mississippi State 15–15 5–11 5th (West)
2006–2007 Mississippi State 21–14 8–8 T–1st (West) NIT Final Four
2007–2008 Mississippi State 23–11 12–4 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2008–2009 Mississippi State 23–13 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2009–2010 Mississippi State 24–12 9–7 T–1st (West) NIT 2nd Round

He should write a 17'ing book on how to trick a fanbase with 20 wins.

You have 14-15 OOC games- make sure 13 of them are against doorknob teams to ensure a good 12-13 wins...SOS be damned- we need wins over Alabama State to make sure we get that total up and keep the sheep happy.

Then go about.500 in the league while playing in the weak side of the conference (we are 43-37 the last 5 years)...now you are at 20-21 wins and the average fan is none the wiser. They think you have actually accomplished something great

hate to tell you but if he can win 23 games or more in 3 of the next 4 years, I don't care if he's scheduling the entire SWAC for OOC, that's good. 23 wins year in and year out is as good as it's going to get. also hate to tell you that winning 7-9 games year in and year out is as good as the football program is going to do as well. it's just the reality of the situation. we can hope for a miracle run once a decade, but we should likewise pray that we don't have a 5 year run of no bowls...because those type runs are rife throughout the program's history.<div>
</div><div>winning 23 games in 3 of the last 4 years is like going gator bowl, peach bowl, gator bowl, no bowl. sorry there's no BCS game in there, but it'll hardly be a reason to fire Mullen. </div>

 

[Duckmandawg]

The man has earned one more year. He won the west last year. Next year sets up decently for him to either redeem himself of prove he's done. This year can't end soon enough, then hopefully get bost and sidney back, get moultrie, get the freshmen in...get rid of ravern for good. He's not going anywhere and you are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. He's won 23 games or more in 6 of the last 10 years, including 3 of the last 4.

This is like Ole Miss's fans and how they think of their football team. "Fire Cutcliff, hire Orgeron." Yeah right. And don't compare it to Croom. Croom had one seven win regular season in 5 years. And 3, 3, 3, and 4 wins in his other seasons. Again, Stansbury has 23 wins or more in 3 of his last 4 (including this year as the 1).

1998–1999 Mississippi State 20–13 8–8 T–3rd (West) NIT 1st Round
1999–2000 Mississippi State 14–16 5–11 T–5th (West)
2000–2001 Mississippi State 18–13 7–9 T–4th (West) NIT Quarterfinals
2001–2002 Mississippi State 27–8 10–6 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2002–2003 Mississippi State 21–10 9–7 1st (West) NCAA 1st Round
2003–2004 Mississippi State 26–4 14–2 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2004–2005 Mississippi State 23–11 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2005–2006 Mississippi State 15–15 5–11 5th (West)
2006–2007 Mississippi State 21–14 8–8 T–1st (West) NIT Final Four
2007–2008 Mississippi State 23–11 12–4 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2008–2009 Mississippi State 23–13 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2009–2010 Mississippi State 24–12 9–7 T–1st (West) NIT 2nd Round

He should write a 17'ing book on how to trick a fanbase with 20 wins.

You have 14-15 OOC games- make sure 13 of them are against doorknob teams to ensure a good 12-13 wins...SOS be damned- we need wins over Alabama State to make sure we get that total up and keep the sheep happy.

Then go about.500 in the league while playing in the weak side of the conference (we are 43-37 the last 5 years)...now you are at 20-21 wins and the average fan is none the wiser. They think you have actually accomplished something great

hate to tell you but if he can win 23 games or more in 3 of the next 4 years, I don't care if he's scheduling the entire SWAC for OOC, that's good. 23 wins year in and year out is as good as it's going to get. also hate to tell you that winning 7-9 games year in and year out is as good as the football program is going to do as well. it's just the reality of the situation. we can hope for a miracle run once a decade, but we should likewise pray that we don't have a 5 year run of no bowls...because those type runs are rife throughout the program's history.<div>
</div><div>winning 23 games in 3 of the last 4 years is like going gator bowl, peach bowl, gator bowl, no bowl. sorry there's no BCS game in there, but it'll hardly be a reason to fire Mullen. </div>

so you are saying making the NCAAT 2 of the last 6 years (including this year) is "as good as it's giong to get"? you sir are an idiot. Also if you believe that go back to Genespage. We've had the talent to make some deep runs in the NCAAT, but we haven't had the coaching.

 

[medearis]

The man has earned one more year. He won the west last year. Next year sets up decently for him to either redeem himself of prove he's done. This year can't end soon enough, then hopefully get bost and sidney back, get moultrie, get the freshmen in...get rid of ravern for good. He's not going anywhere and you are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. He's won 23 games or more in 6 of the last 10 years, including 3 of the last 4.

This is like Ole Miss's fans and how they think of their football team. "Fire Cutcliff, hire Orgeron." Yeah right. And don't compare it to Croom. Croom had one seven win regular season in 5 years. And 3, 3, 3, and 4 wins in his other seasons. Again, Stansbury has 23 wins or more in 3 of his last 4 (including this year as the 1).

1998–1999 Mississippi State 20–13 8–8 T–3rd (West) NIT 1st Round
1999–2000 Mississippi State 14–16 5–11 T–5th (West)
2000–2001 Mississippi State 18–13 7–9 T–4th (West) NIT Quarterfinals
2001–2002 Mississippi State 27–8 10–6 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2002–2003 Mississippi State 21–10 9–7 1st (West) NCAA 1st Round
2003–2004 Mississippi State 26–4 14–2 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2004–2005 Mississippi State 23–11 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2005–2006 Mississippi State 15–15 5–11 5th (West)
2006–2007 Mississippi State 21–14 8–8 T–1st (West) NIT Final Four
2007–2008 Mississippi State 23–11 12–4 1st (West) NCAA 2nd Round
2008–2009 Mississippi State 23–13 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2009–2010 Mississippi State 24–12 9–7 T–1st (West) NIT 2nd Round

He should write a 17'ing book on how to trick a fanbase with 20 wins.

You have 14-15 OOC games- make sure 13 of them are against doorknob teams to ensure a good 12-13 wins...SOS be damned- we need wins over Alabama State to make sure we get that total up and keep the sheep happy.

Then go about.500 in the league while playing in the weak side of the conference (we are 43-37 the last 5 years)...now you are at 20-21 wins and the average fan is none the wiser. They think you have actually accomplished something great

hate to tell you but if he can win 23 games or more in 3 of the next 4 years, I don't care if he's scheduling the entire SWAC for OOC, that's good. 23 wins year in and year out is as good as it's going to get. also hate to tell you that winning 7-9 games year in and year out is as good as the football program is going to do as well. it's just the reality of the situation. we can hope for a miracle run once a decade, but we should likewise pray that we don't have a 5 year run of no bowls...because those type runs are rife throughout the program's history.<div>
</div><div>winning 23 games in 3 of the last 4 years is like going gator bowl, peach bowl, gator bowl, no bowl. sorry there's no BCS game in there, but it'll hardly be a reason to fire Mullen. </div>

so you are saying making the NCAAT 2 of the last 6 years (including this year) is "as good as it's giong to get"? you sir are an idiot. Also if you believe that go back to Genespage. We've had the talent to make some deep runs in the NCAAT, but we haven't had the coaching.

Actually it's you, sir, that is an complete idiot if you think our next coach is going to come in here and win MORE than 23 games in 3 of his first 4 years. Just a complete fool. Talking about talent to do this and that. How you think we got that talent? <div>
</div><div>And you take your *** to Gene's page if you want. I've never been there in the first place and can have whatever opinion I want without some fool who isn't in touch with reality making statements about where I should go.

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[Coach34]

"hate to tell you but if he can win 23 games or more in 3 of the next 4 years, I don't care if he's scheduling the entire SWAC for OOC, that's good"

no, its really not. Thats your problem and alot of others in looking at our basketball program. There is a reason half the NCAA bids go out to only 6 conferences- they are the big schools with the top players and have the biggest advantages to win for the most part. So loading our schedule with nobodys year after year doesnt make us a better team because we won 23 games than a 19 win team with a much better SOS.

Stands getting most of his wins vs 150 RPI and below teams doesnt us a good team- just like Georgia winning the SEC Tourney with a losing record didnt make them a good team.

There is a reason we keep winning 20 games yet we dont make the NCAA Tourney- we are playing a pathetically weak schedule. If Stands played a big boy schedule like he was supposed to, we wouldnt get to 20 wins.

 

[Phil Wenneck.sixpack]

It is indeed impressive how so many can be tricked into the 20 win hype.

 

[medearis]

The great thing is, we'll see. Personally, I think Andy Kennedy is a pretty good basketball coach, and he's certainly not lighting the world on fire up the road. Don't see anything great out of Pelphrey...aren't you a Pelphry slobber? Well either way, guess what, Arky blows, and he's had plenty of time over there. LSU is a recruiters dream, and they suck horribly. This list goes on an on of programs with more money and better facilities and worse teams. <div>
</div><div>Meanwhile, MSU just keeps pumping out 23 win seasons and western division title banners, and at the first sign of a bad year (and bad years are inevitable, even for top programs, and MSU certainly is not a top program), you're on here with your merry band acting like stansbury has done a bad job here. It's fine for you and the rest of your like-minded idealists to keep thinking it's going to get better without Stansbury, but the odds are most definitely in favor of it getting worse. </div><div>
</div><div>This is about like Jeff Bower at USM. The man won 9 games 4 times in 10 years. Guess what. It's been 3 years since he left and they have not won 9 again. No signs of 9 anywhere in their future either. At least with Stansbury, we can hope for the big year bc he puts us in good shape year in and year out, with a bad year sprinkled in once a decade. We can get a good ole Andy Kennedy in here to replace Rick, and NEVER go to the NCAA and HOPE for a NIT every year.</div><div>
</div><div>One of the greatest coaches in the history of college basketball, Dean Smith, never even made a NCAA tourney in his first 4 years, and didn't win a national title until like 10 years in. Well guess what, this ain't North Carolina, and we ain't hiring a Dean Smith.</div>

 

[medearis]

you detractors keeps saying "20-win stuff"...it's not "20-win stuff", it's 27, 26, 23, 23, 23, and 24 wins...all in a 12 year period. I give much less credit for 20 wins compared to the list of 23+ win season I just rattled off.

 

[Incognegro]

There's a difference between being a realist and a defeatist and you're no where near walking the fine line and have completely fell into the realm of the latter. Besides.... anybody who can't at least acknowledge the good he has done for the program are either bitter, blind or a combination of both, but it's about that time he and MSU just need to part ways. You're right in saying that the chances of our performance becoming worse instead of better when getting a new coach is high, but becoming complacent with mediocrity will hurt your program worse. In order for us to become a better program risks need to be taken. Playing it safe hardly produces anything worth remembering. Also, unless you're capable of seeing into the future, don't ever say what a program will always be capable of. Until we get to that point, no one will ever know.

 

[Uncle Leo]

you detractors keeps saying "20-win stuff"...it's not "20-win stuff", it's 27, 26, 23, 23, 23, and 24 wins...all in a 12 year period. I give much less credit for 20 wins compared to the list of 23+ win season I just rattled off.

None of those win totals you rattled off got us past the 2nd round of the tournament, and even one of those win totals was only good enough for the NIT. Congratulations.

In two of the seasons you listed, we were a #8/9 seed. You know why? Because a bunch of wins against weak opposition means nothing, and the NCAA committee knows this. Even worse, early season losses to weak opposition kills you. And that's become inevitable under Stans. A bad loss here and there, and you get stuck as a #8 seed and you're rewarded with a potential 2nd round matchup vs a #1 seed. Early season games count, and for a litany of reasons, we're not always prepared to win early season games. And when we're fortunate enough to get an NCAA tournament berth, we pay for the weak schedule and early season losses.

Lastly, one of those seasons that you listed earned us a #13 seed because we were fortunate enough to win the SEC Tournament, which means we would have, again, been in the NIT at best without it.

Win totals don't mean as much as you think they do.