Your expectations for the new coach/staff?
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I think it is actually refreshing, especially in the pro football, that a coach actually said what Bowles said instead of the normal BS "I have to do a better job." Bowles didn't drop the pass or miss the tackle. Call it the way it is and put on your big boy pants!I don’t want to see Campbell throw the kids under the bus.
Todd Bowles says Bucs' 'inexcusable' loss falls on players
Buccaneers coach Todd Bowles called Thursday night's 29-28 loss "inexcusable" and put the onus on his players to hold one another accountable and execute on the field.www.espn.com
Oof.
I don’t want to see Campbell throw the kids under the bus.
Todd Bowles says Bucs' 'inexcusable' loss falls on players
Buccaneers coach Todd Bowles called Thursday night's 29-28 loss "inexcusable" and put the onus on his players to hold one another accountable and execute on the field.
Oof.
Do you want accountability or not? Make up your mind.
Do you want Bowles to be more like Franklin?
Think Campbell will be better in recruiting than Franklink simply because he won't be giving 500k to the likes of a Clifford or Deluca.
FIFY.
I can list at least 5 other coaches who would be fired if they were 3 and 3, they looked pedestrian in their wins, and two losses were as 20 point favorites.
Boo hoo for Franklin. Again.
Dont bet on it. He will just have different overpaid players..
How about next year you rank the PSU players who should be the top paid. Just give us your top 10 before the season starts and we can see how that works out.
It’s not perceived, it’s real. For example:
a high school coach could win 10 games with Penn State’s schedule…he’s terrible.
Campbell needs three years, we have to give him some time.
So you’re saying Franklin got fired for not living up to the expectations he created…got it.
He got fired because he could not win big games, was a disaster with roster management, couldn't figure out how to run a competent offense nor develop a QB. Beyond that he undermined his boss.
But you missed the point of my post you replied to…it wasn’t about how many years Franklin coached, it’s about hypocritical expectations. We don’t like Franklin so he should win 10 games because our schedule is so easy. We got a new coach, so he needs time to get to 10 wins (with an easier schedule). Do you not see the hypocrisy in that?
Bad example. Nobody expected Franklin to win 10 games in his first couple seasons. He was taking over a depleted roster.
Campbell is taking over a depleted roster and will need time.
Poor, poor maligned James Franklin.
Campbell hasn't started yet and has only 1 less BIG championship than Franklin.
We were supposed to be OK with giving Franklin the rest of the season to turn this thing around, which the ceiling would have been 8-4 since there's no way in hell he beats OSU. 8-4 with next year supposedly being worse, being stuck waiting a couple years for Franklin to build back up to a team good enough to fall flat on its *** if it gets ranked too high.
This was best case scenario. Not 10 wins anymore. 8 wins and maybe 10 wins in a couple years or so.
This was best case scenario. Not 10 wins anymore. 8 wins and maybe 10 wins in a couple years or so.
No way would anyone one here have expected 8-4 next year with the schedule we have regardless of who we were losing.
So we take a short term loss next year for long term gains in the following seasons. I'll take that trade. Next man up, Mrs. Franklin.
So the next man doesn’t have to prove he’s a long term gain, you just appointed him that? Great logic there.
And you have appointed him a failure. So what. There is plenty of BGJ talk on the Va Tech board. We want to talk about our coach and our team here. F BGJ. F you.
I haven’t appointed him a failure. I hope he has phenomenal success, but silly me, I think he should have to show that he’s successful before we anoint him as an upgrade.
There would really be no way of knowing what to expect anymore after losing to NW and UCLA. Would have had to wonder which big underdogs would ambush the team next year.
It's way too late to bring him back. Somehow, we will have to go on without knowing what would have happened if Franklin was given more time. It was just weird how they had no sense of urgency in that Northwestern game. With everyone walking around that day going on and on about how Penn State was stuck with this guy, no way to buy him out, we're screwed forever, booing the intro video.
In the face of all that, they laid that giant homecoming egg. I couldn't tell if the players wanted him fired or he wanted himself fired. That game, in the context of all that, was his double bird to the crowd swan song.
In the face of all that, they laid that giant homecoming egg. I couldn't tell if the players wanted him fired or he wanted himself fired. That game, in the context of all that, was his double bird to the crowd swan song.
2 out of 5 this year. Don't know how many it would've been if he finished the year.
They both need to be held to the same standard but if Campbell doesn't get to 10 wins in year one or two I am not going to fire him. But yes at some point, probably year 4 if he is not beating any good teams and not getting into the playoff then you need to make a change. Franklin had a lot of time. He took over from O'Brien and in year 3 he wins the B10 championship, great. But then he never gets us to the playoff after that. I would have fired him after 2021. He had 5 years (4 if you discount the Covid year) to deliver a playoff run at the very least. Then in 2021 that year was just ugly.
For better or worse both those players were more reliable than the people in front of them or, so we've been told.
In Deluca's case he was never meant to be the every down guy but the situation required him to be that guy. I blame part of that on the scheme and the inability or unwillingness of the DC to change things up. I'm on record here for hating Knowles defense as the base defense which is ok in those pass happy leagues but not the Big 10. I have always been multiple on both O and D.
As it has been said throughout Deluca's career here the ball liked him given some of the key interceptions he's made. I like the guy a lot and he's been a loyal leader the guy bleeds Blue and White. He's just been put in situations he's not well suited for and he's not a starter at this level; he might be able to be at a couple other Big 10 teams but probably not in the top 2/3 of the league.
True.
That said:
The roster situation PSU faces in 2026 (while there are some issues) is NOT EVEN CLOSE to the level of challenge that existed in 2014. Not in the same zip code (or hemisphere) - and the remedies to VERY quickly mitigate the roster issues that exist now (ie, portal) did not exist then (and that made it exponentially more challenging)
My original question was
Your expectations for the new coach/staff?
