Your Neighbor wins the $1.3 Billion. How Do Kill Him/Her to get it?

-LEK-

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You tie them up, having them sign over their rights or claim.

Nothing messy, just something simple. Have to be really careful for dna here. Would probably wear gloves and mask, etc. no cell phones. Duct tape. Would make sure to damage door lock to rule out evidence of familiarity.

Probably duct tape face and suffocate, no noise. Try breaking their neck, but this ain't no movie. No mess. All business.

Transporte body to another location. Difficult if in an apt. Probably have to get bags and plenty of plastic to leave no blood for when you cut up body. Make sure to smash teeth.

If peices are small enough, feed to animals or throw in water. Don't want hand floating off. Probably bury remains.
 
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You tie them up, having them sign over their rights or claim.

Nothing messy, just something simple. Have to be really careful for dna here. Would probably wear gloves and mask, etc. no cell phones. Duct tape. Would make sure to damage door lock to rule out evidence of familiarity.

Probably duct tape face and suffocate, no noise. Try breaking their neck, but this ain't no movie. No mess. All business.

Transporte body to another location. Difficult if in an apt. Probably have to get bags and plenty of plastic to leave no blood for when you cut up body. Make sure to smash teeth.

If peices are small enough, feed to animals or throw in water. Don't want hand floating off. Probably bury remains.

Definitely agree with burying the remains. Problem is, family. They are the first to know. Everybody got a cousin or an uncle who'd risk it all. Observant neighbors could actually plan this and pin it on a family member.
 
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Don't you have to first try and convince them how miserable all that money will make their lives before offing them?
 

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Chinese lottery winners have it down. This is how most take publicity pictures when they claim their money.
 

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id be paranoid beyond belief with that kind of money. If I win $10/mil, I might not even make the news.....and people would probably leave my family alone. Win $1.5/bill and I'd be afraid someone would kidnap my kids for ransom. That's stupid money that leads you to do stupid things. "Hey, we just had a good week long trip to Paris, lets buy France."
 
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I know it would be hard, but if I won I wouldn't tell a single person about it. I would pack up my stuff and move and just fly in to collect my winnings. That way by the time it gets out I would be long gone. Go live with the Beverly Hills types until I can get a house built the way I want, where I want, and for the most part stay off the grid.

Your screwed if you come out and tell your job you won and quit and start calling friends and family also. Might as well stick a gun straight to your head.
 

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Yep. Agreed.

I've read the best way to claim it is by doing it under a LLC.

Also, I've been thinking if I win it. I'm gonna buy a big house with a big fence and then I'm going to bury all that money in the ground. One block of cash every day and then I'll put an inground pool on top of it with a machine that would send me up a bundle of cash when I needed it.

I got anxiety thinking about the bank people knowing my account. I am surprised bank tellers don't kill more people with money.
 

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Yep. Agreed.

I've read the best way to claim it is by doing it under a LLC.

Also, I've been thinking if I win it. I'm gonna buy a big house with a big fence and then I'm going to bury all that money in the ground. One block of cash every day and then I'll put an inground pool on top of it with a machine that would send me up a bundle of cash when I needed it.

I got anxiety thinking about the bank people knowing my account. I am surprised bank tellers don't kill more people with money.
[laughing]

Play like John Templeton. Spread out the winnings among different banks, different investments and different countries.
 
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I'd just put a flaming bag of dog crap on their porch, because there is no way in hell I would be able to get away with murder.
 

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It's kind of hard to believe that 1.5 Billion dollars is going to be reliant on someone keeping up with a 5 inch by 3 inch piece of paper. Has there every been a big jackpot where there was a winner but no one ever came forward?
 

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Yep. Agreed.

I've read the best way to claim it is by doing it under a LLC.

Also, I've been thinking if I win it. I'm gonna buy a big house with a big fence and then I'm going to bury all that money in the ground. One block of cash every day and then I'll put an inground pool on top of it with a machine that would send me up a bundle of cash when I needed it.

I got anxiety thinking about the bank people knowing my account. I am surprised bank tellers don't kill more people with money.
Or you could invest in a low risk account and live off the interest alone.
 

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http://www.nola.com/louisiana-lottery/index.ssf/2013/11/16_million_lottery_winner_neve.html

That article from 2013 states largest unclaimed was 53 million jackpot...hopefully for that person's sake ignorance is still bliss.

I'm betting the person looked for their missing lottery ticket for days, weeks, even months. Then they convinced themselves that they lost the winning ticket and their one chance to move out of the slums, so they put a slug in their head.
 

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Or you could invest in a low risk account and live off the interest alone.

That would have to be with a pretty large bank though, right? Don't smaller banks and credit unions have a cap on what you can put in your account for insurance reasons or something like that?
I sure as hell wouldn't trust one of the big banks with my money. I'd have about 20 different accounts with smaller credit unions and do exactly as you said, live off the interest from those accounts.
 

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That would have to be with a pretty large bank though, right? Don't smaller banks and credit unions have a cap on what you can put in your account for insurance reasons or something like that?
I sure as hell wouldn't trust one of the big banks with my money. I'd have about 20 different accounts with smaller credit unions and do exactly as you said, live off the interest from those accounts.
Obviously, talk to a financial adviser, but yea, wouldnt think a savings account. Index fund, bonds, etc.
 
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Obviously, talk to a financial adviser, but yea, wouldnt think a savings account. Index fund, bonds, etc.

I collected some good interest off of a MMA several years ago. Not that I was loaded, but it was nice to see a noticeable increase to the account on a monthly basis. I can only imagine what lottery money interest would look like.

I'd probably put quite a bit on Gold and Silver as well.
 

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Before implementing the kill the neighbor strategy, make sure that they do not take the lump sum payout. The $1.5 billion winning prize will be reduced by 38% to $930 million if they do. That is before taxes. Federal tax will reduce the lump sum to $562 million and state/local tax could reduce it further to $422 million depending on where you live and where you bought the ticket. So if you take the cash option, you will only get about 28% of the stated prize amount (assuming you live in a state that taxes lottery winnings like KY).

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/11/tallying-the-big-tax-bite-of-a-14b-powerball-win.html
 

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Before implementing the kill the neighbor strategy, make sure that they do not take the lump sum payout. The $1.5 billion winning prize will be reduced by 38% to $930 million if they do. That is before taxes. Federal tax will reduce the lump sum to $562 million and state/local tax could reduce it further to $422 million depending on where you live and where you bought the ticket. So if you take the cash option, you will only get about 28% of the stated prize amount (assuming you live in a state that taxes lottery winnings like KY).

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/11/tallying-the-big-tax-bite-of-a-14b-powerball-win.html

28% is good enough to do it.
 

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You could try to knock them out and then smother...then take them somewhere and try the acid the body to nothing like in Breaking Bad...if that didn't work have to think of something else. Walter White would be proud. Or u could go the box cutter route like Gus Fring...a lil messy though. Clearly I've watched too much BB.
 
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Yeah, if you win the thing in Louisville you're going to pay the state and local government 7%. That's pretty substantial. I don't see how killing your neighbor does you any good. Better off embezzling money from them over time.
 

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Everyone says - and rightfully so - not to take the lump sum.

But I've always had concern that if you go the smart way that you may never see all of it. I mean, what happens when the govt finally breaks? Or there is a catastrophic event and society collapses?

Give me my money now so I can start prepping and not have to worry about a societal/governmental collapse.
 

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First, hope it's not the neighbor that you don't get along with. Second, Get 'em drunk in celebration. Explain to them that giving you $100 million wouldn't affect their bottom line at all. Work down from there if need be, even to the point that it's *only* $5 million. Explain that $5 mil is nothing to them, and their generosity would change someone's entire life. Chances are they are in the giving spirit after the win and you should be good.

It's not the fun answer, and you're not getting the entire loot.. but it's very feasible. I would honestly try this in real life, and I think I could swing it (The $5 mil, you gotta aim high, and by the 7th shot of whatever crazy Scotch they just bought, you should have them in the bag).
 

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Definitely agree with burying the remains. Problem is, family. They are the first to know. Everybody got a cousin or an uncle who'd risk it all. Observant neighbors could actually plan this and pin it on a family member.
Yeah you better just go kill anyone who has ever talked to/seen these people as well, just to be safe. Especially the neighborhood postal worker. Screw him.
 
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Damn, that's a good question. Never thought about that.

dammit, Willy. Are you going to leave this hanging? What time did you start drinking today? We're all wanting to play by your rules here. Pre ticket? Post ticket?
 

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Ha ha ha man I'm stumped. Was just focused on the end goal, which was murder

You're blatant disregard for shameless attempts at requisite begging would normally leave me satisfied and confident with your voting tendencies in the coming election year, were it not for your - how should I say - infamy? all good humor intended, sir. [winking]
 
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Before implementing the kill the neighbor strategy, make sure that they do not take the lump sum payout. The $1.5 billion winning prize will be reduced by 38% to $930 million if they do. That is before taxes. Federal tax will reduce the lump sum to $562 million and state/local tax could reduce it further to $422 million depending on where you live and where you bought the ticket. So if you take the cash option, you will only get about 28% of the stated prize amount (assuming you live in a state that taxes lottery winnings like KY).

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/11/tallying-the-big-tax-bite-of-a-14b-powerball-win.html

I haven't done the calculations yet.
But whether you take lump sum or the 30 yr payments, you will be paying taxes on it. I don't know, maybe if you move to a non-income tax state you can have less in taxes in years 2-29. Also, due to inflation, $50M will not be worth in 5 years what it is today, and definitely not in 30 years. Doing some crude math, the $50M you get in year 30 would be worth $15-20M of today's dollars.
And by taking a lump sum, not only can you negate inflation, but you have a reasonable chance at increasing the value over those 30 years by investing.
So in summary, I don't think it is necessarily true, that you gain more by taking $50M a year for 30 years.
 

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I haven't done the calculations yet.
But whether you take lump sum or the 30 yr payments, you will be paying taxes on it. I don't know, maybe if you move to a non-income tax state you can have less in taxes in years 2-29. Also, due to inflation, $50M will not be worth in 5 years what it is today, and definitely not in 30 years. Doing some crude math, the $50M you get in year 30 would be worth $15-20M of today's dollars.
And by taking a lump sum, not only can you negate inflation, but you have a reasonable chance at increasing the value over those 30 years by investing.
So in summary, I don't think it is necessarily true, that you gain more by taking $50M a year for 30 years.

If you take the lump sum, they reduce the payout by 38% ($570 million) before taxes are even involved. This is what they use as a time value of money figure. As far as taxes go, if you take it over 30 years, the first roughly $500,000 will be taxed at a lower tax rate. So that is another savings. Finally, you may be able to move to one of ten or so states that do not tax lottery winnings to save on years 2-30 tax bill.