YTTV update

[basedawg]

Got this from LA Times. Didd't copy whole article but here is latest. No end in sight it seems.

• YouTube TV’s 10 million subscribers have lost access to ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in one of the decade’s largest TV blackouts.
• Disney executives on Friday said the two sides remain apart on key points in the negotiations..
• YouTube TV is counting on its loyal customers to stick with the service despite the blackout, which could give the tech giant Google, which owns YouTube, more leverage in the dispute.

YouTube TV customers can expect another frustrating weekend.
For the last week, YouTube TV’s 10 million subscribers have been denied access to ESPN, ABC and other Walt Disney Co. channels in a dispute that has swelled into one of the largest TV blackouts in a decade. Instead of turning on “College GameDay,” “Monday Night Football” or “Dancing With the Stars,” customers have been greeted with a grim message: “Disney channels are unavailable.”
The two sides remain far apart on key deal terms.
“Unfortunately, we are headed into another sports-packed weekend without a deal in place,” ESPN Chairman Jimmy Pitaro and Disney Entertainment Co-Chairs Dana Walden and Alan Bergman wrote in a memo to staff members on Friday.

 

[TimberBeast]

I'm very glad this happened, it forced me to quit youtubetv which I should have done long ago. I would have kept on paying stupidly if it wouldn't have happened this way.

 

[basedawg]

Well I've been holding out but i suppose i will try a free trail with either Hulu or Fubo.

 

[Lowdog]

I am growing very tired of ESPN and Youtube tv. I cannot log into my ESPN account that I pay for. Because ESPN app does not recognize YouTube tv or will let me log into my ESPN app using YouTube tv. Which logging into espn app requires you to provide your tv provider.

I really wanted to watch the baseball game tonight and SEC football tomorrow.
Oh well just another reason to say screw it I’m doing something else other than watch NCAA sports.

 

[Walkthedawg]

This negotiation is a little different that the others that Disney is used to. They can make dish and direct tv break pretty quickly. However Google is a behemoth that has much deeper pockets than anyone else including Disney

And their product is good enough that people will be back in due time even if they do lose subscribers now.

You know it wouldn’t be a bad thing if they hold out and win. It would hold the price if YTTV down and set a price point for negotiation for other providers so they don’t have to increase.

 

[patdog]

This negotiation is a little different that the others that Disney is used to. They can make dish and direct tv break pretty quickly. However Google is a behemoth that has much deeper pockets than anyone else including Disney

And their product is good enough that people will be back in due time even if they do lose subscribers now.

You know it wouldn’t be a bad thing if they hold out and win. It would hold the price if YTTV down and set a price point for negotiation for other providers so they don’t have to increase.

Google may be a behemoth, but ultimately this is a battle they can’t win. If this goes on much longer they will lose massive subscribers.

 

[Xenomorph]

Google may be a behemoth, but ultimately this is a battle they can’t win. If this goes on much longer they will lose massive subscribers.

Does a $3.3 Trillion company notice if a $100MM/month segment of its business is on the skids?

 

[patdog]

Does a $3.3 Trillion company notice if a $100MM/month segment of its business is on the skids?

They’ll notice. Will it break Google? Of course not. But it could break YouTube.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Google may be a behemoth, but ultimately this is a battle they can’t win. If this goes on much longer they will lose massive subscribers.

I'm not sure they can't win it. Time will tell.
I still say all of the ingredients of a Anti-trust case are present.

 

[TheDawg-Pound]

All they need to do is give the 20 monthly credit. I wish that they would just do it and call it a day.

 

[Walkthedawg]

Google may be a behemoth, but ultimately this is a battle they can’t win. If this goes on much longer they will lose massive subscribers.

They can lose a bunch. But I don’t know about a complete exodus. You have a ton of people that don’t care that much about ESPN. They wanna watch other stuff. But their subscriptions count as a Disney loss.

And again.. they have such a decent product that people will come right back when it gets worked out.

 

[Papapat.sixpack]

I canceled yttv and went with fox/disney/espn bundle for half of what I was paying, never watched any of the other channels anyway and have an antenna for local if needed.

 

[Pipe Dream]

I’d pause my YTTV but have sunday ticket which is a must for me. This blows. Fixing to do the directv stream trial hoping this gets fixed next wknd.

 

[DawgsNCowboys87]

I just did the Disney+, Hulu, ESPN Unlimited gonna see what happens with YTTV and cancel if I need to. Something like that i do enjoy the unlimited dvr on YTTV and catching up through key plays. Hope it gets worked out

 

[KentuckyDawg13]

17 disney

 

[Dawg1976]

I canceled yttv and went with fox/disney/espn bundle for half of what I was paying, never watched any of the other channels anyway and have an antenna for local if needed.

A good way to go. Just curious….How do you record the antenna channels? I tried Tablo a couple of years ago and it sucked for me. Slow and wouldn’t bring any of the sub channels in to the menu. I know some have had good luck but others had the same experience as me.

 

[baddmann007]

I am growing very tired of ESPN and Youtube tv. I cannot log into my ESPN account that I pay for. Because ESPN app does not recognize YouTube tv or will let me log into my ESPN app using YouTube tv. Which logging into espn app requires you to provide your tv provider.

I really wanted to watch the baseball game tonight and SEC football tomorrow.
Oh well just another reason to say screw it I’m doing something else other than watch NCAA sports.

Since they are not playing nice, ESPN app won’t work with your provider until they kiss and make up.

Only way for you to watch ESPN app right now is to upgrade ESPN package to $29.99 per month and then you don’t need to sign in with a provider. (They have some sign up deals right now…)

 

[ababyatemydingo]

Since they are not playing nice, ESPN app won’t work with your provider until they kiss and make up.

Only way for you to watch ESPN app right now is to upgrade ESPN package to $29.99 per month and then you don’t need to sign in with a provider. (They have some sign up deals right now…)

You can watch everything you want to watch on regular YouTube. Gameday, sec nation, and the game. All right there streaming on regular free YouTube. Just install the YouTube app on your streaming device, search for those broadcasts, and make it full screen and it's no different that a paid service. Personally, I use an IPTV service with 21,000 4K streams at $25/mo

 

[tldawg85]

Since they are not playing nice, ESPN app won’t work with your provider until they kiss and make up.

Only way for you to watch ESPN app right now is to upgrade ESPN package to $29.99 per month and then you don’t need to sign in with a provider. (They have some sign up deals right now…)

For awareness, this is not necessarily the case.

- FuboTV offers a free 3 day trial that would cover the weekend and includes access through the ESPN app (just set FuboTV as your tv provider inside the app and sign-in) https://www.fubo.tv/stream/live/preview/

- DirecTV streaming offers a 5 day free trial - https://www.directv.com/stream/ with ESPN app access

-SlingTV Orange offers a day pass for $5.99 including the ESPNs and SECN

Sling Orange - Service Details, Channels, & Information | Sling TV

Choose Sling Orange and stream live TV from channels like ESPN, Disney Channel and more. Watch the TV shows you love anywhere, anytime, for less than cable.

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[Papapat.sixpack]

A good way to go. Just curious….How do you record the antenna channels? I tried Tablo a couple of years ago and it sucked for me. Slow and wouldn’t bring any of the sub channels in to the menu. I know some have had good luck but others had the same experience as me.

The only time I ever watch the local channels is weather related

 

[Perd Hapley]

Google may be a behemoth, but ultimately this is a battle they can’t win. If this goes on much longer they will lose massive subscribers.

It’s not a battle that they have to win. That’s the thing. YTTV may not even be a Top 10 profit center within the Alphabet business umbrella. It definitely isn’t Top 5. The streaming providers in general don’t have very high margins (see Sony pulling out of it entirely as evidence), so its a big, big problem for everyone else. But not Alphabet.

They will be perfectly content to operate YTTV with a smaller subscriber base and remain profitable, as opposed to bowing to ESPN for more subscribers but less profit. I honestly think ESPN wants YTTV out of the game, so they can extort companies like Sling and DirecTV for even more money based on exclusivity. They don’t really want to make a deal with them, but they have to pretend like they are trying.

 

[msstatelp1]

A good way to go. Just curious….How do you record the antenna channels? I tried Tablo a couple of years ago and it sucked for me. Slow and wouldn’t bring any of the sub channels in to the menu. I know some have had good luck but others had the same experience as me.

I’ve had Tablo for a month or so now and have been happy with it overall but I’ve seen numerous stories about people having issues.

 

[lazlow]

All they need to do is give the 20 monthly credit. I wish that they would just do it and call it a day.

Yea, YTT has chosen to take 0% of $80 in stead of 75%....and who in the 17 even allows an espn contract to expire in week 10. FUBO has been a nice change.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Yea, YTT has chosen to take 0% of $80 in stead of 75%....and who in the 17 even allows an espn contract to expire in week 10. FUBO has been a nice change.

I'm sure that is on Disney.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

They acknowledged my email, which told them they have one week left, or I would be changed to DIRECTV. My family watches ABC too much to drop a service.