On and on. Its 2026 and some people cant get past skin color. No one cares about it except those that keep stirring the pot.
Zero black head coaches hired this coaching cycle in NFL
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She probably wanted me there before reading that.@SouthernBelly’s wife just saw his response. He’s now sleeping on the couch. . . .
When can we quit discussing this crap?
No one is against hiring black coaches. They want winners and couldn't care less about what race the coach is.
No one is against hiring black coaches. They want winners and couldn't care less about what race the coach is.
No - you're not required like to women's sports exactly the same amount as men's. You can like them more, or you can like them less. I personally think it's a bit short-sighted to like or dislike a sport more or less based on the gender of the competitors.
We are all required to respect all sports which represent our school. That's not the same as liking or following an individual sport, These are young men and women who dedicate many hours of work on their sport, notwithstanding the classroom. I don't follow tennis, equestrian, golf,volleyball, etc., but the athletes are Gamecocks, and I respect that.
Many who have posted here and stated that WBB does not resonate with them at least don't diss the sport. That at least shows respect. But to me, pining for the school to invest less in a sport you don't care to follow and reallocate said funding to a sport you like/follow shows a lack of rerspect.
The only thing I know about Menards (similar type of store to Lowes and Home Depot) is that the closest one to SC is in Kentucky, and I visited one once in Marion, I,L enroute to viewing the total solar eclipse in in Carbondale in April 2024, the day after WBB won the national title. We were going to go to Cleveland and see both, but time and $$$ prohibited such.
I enjoy watching WBB. I don't much care to watch MBB, and am unsure if I will if/when we once again have a winning team. But I still respect the men.
Does all the football hype mean I should be excited about it? No different that WBB hype.
The point is that the school sponsors a plethora of sports. Whichever ones we choose to follow or not follow is fine; just don't diss a sport which you don't follow.
Why should anyone watch college sports at all when the product is inferor to the pros?
Not a good comparison.
Is the overall final product in the NFL superior? Yes. That's because you have all the best college talent concentrated down to 32 teams. But those players were playing in college at one point. Same players. They go to the pros and get further developed into even better players. For the NBA, the gap isn't as great. There is plenty of NBA talent playing in college only because the rules require them to go for at least one year.
MBB is superior to WBB for reasons of biology alone. Nothing women can ever do can bridge that gap. Whatever the skill/talent gap is between the NFL and college football, you can multiply that by 100 for the gap between MBB and WBB. High school boys' teams would dominate a WNBA team.
The skill level in MBB is superior to WBB for obvious reasons, but MBB is an inferior product IMO. ....and I still watch MBB, but the sport in comparison to what it was 2-3 decades ago is night and day. No storylines. You need a program to find out who plays for what team. Few rivalries because the players move around all over the place. You have made it clear you don't appreciate WBB, but the roster construction pretty much remains intact from year to year despite some movement in the portal. Rivalries develop. Everyone doesn't see sports in a male vs female comparison. As with women's tennis, some can separate different versions of the sport and appreciate them for what they are.
I think i see your point, but I think we're splitting hairs on terms. I can "respect" the women's team, and the effort they put in the same I can YMCA adult league basketball teams.
I wont watch either on TV and wouldnt care if either never played another game. It wouldnt bother me because I dont care to notice them anyway. Is that contempt, or just my preference for better players, or different sports?
I can respect the effort our equestrian team puts in (honestly, do we even have one?) While still thinking the money sunk into it could help our football team.
As for liking a sport based on the gender? I think thats being too simplistic. Its not that they are women playing the sport, its that they are women playing the sport at a much lower level of play than the men.
Make it just about men's bball, I would be much more entertained by the ncaa team than the over 50 ymca team. And if the university was spending money on both, i could argue for the elimination of one.
I think the idea is based on whether having been an NFL player is a major experiential advantage for being an NFL head coach. If you believe that then it raises the question of why is the percentage of black players around 59% and the percent of black head coaches around 22%. If you look at NFL ownership there is one racial minority owner (Khan in Jacksonville). You can contrast this with other major sports for yourself. If you have worked in industry the analogy is whether having worked in a department of a company should be an advantage/prerequisite to lead the department. Certainly, ownership is more based on wealth than experience. Whether playing experience is an advantage depends on a lot of other factors but I think this is the core of the question and the second part is whether there is a glass ceiling in the NFL for players post playing career. It is just part of a larger discussion that has been going on for decades.
Well said and a good point that unless you have lived through desgregation it is hard to understand the before and after situations. Its kind of like youngsters understanding pre-internet and pre-cell phones.
Tomlin could coach for me anytime, or Dungy when he was active.
I actually prefer high-level WBB now to the men's game. It reminds me more of the men's game I enjoyed so much back in the 1960s and 1970s. The great women's teams are very athletic and highly skilled, plus their game isn't played above the rim, which makes it better in my opinion.
This right here. Spot effing on. Men's college basketball was neck and neck for me with college football throughout my life up until the "one and done" started. Now, the portal has made it even worse. Basketball is a much more personal sport. You aren't looking at a uniform with a number and a helmet. Basketball is just more personal, especially in person. I'd stay up watching pretty much any ACC game because it was by far the best top to bottom league in the country for so long. What's was better than UNC/Duke at Cameron Indoor Stadium throughout the late 80s-2000s?!?! Nothing.
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Both Shanahan and McVay are Super Bowl coaches. It's not like either guy just was handed a head coaching or coordinator job without prior experience. I'm not sure what your problem with either of these coaches is.
I would wager a high percentage of guys get their foot in the door coaching in the NFL b/c they know someone. As with most professions, it's not what you know, it's who you know.
A YMCA team is recreational. Not the same as student athletes.
USC has a well-respected requestrian team. They are true Gamecocks - no more and no less than Sellers,
The money sunk into football could better help the equestran team. The point I'm trying to make is that while football matters most to many people (and sadly exclusively to too many), the gridiron does not have a monopoly on financial resources. Nor should it.
Have a family friend who coached with NYJets under Todd Bowles and spoke very highly of him.Hope TB gets back in playoffs.Also spoke highly of Steve Wilkes who’s been around the block in the NFL but is considered a good guy to work for.
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The YMCA comment was simply to compare drastically different levels of talent, and eliminate the gender variable.
Did not know we had a real equestrian team. Kudos to them. But the fact that I didn't know they existed tells me it wouldnt bother me if they never had another match, or whatever they call their meets.
The gridiron does not have a monopoly, but I think its an interesting debate whether it should or not. Or to what degree the money should be spread around.
If we had a women's breakdancing team, some would argue that "real" gamecock fans should respect it and that it was money well spent. Obviously, no one currently thinks that. So one thought I have is that the mere existence of the team doesn't justify that it should be continued.
In reality, I wish we could have tenfold the number of teams and the number of sports. But the money is finite. And it should be treated as such.
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I would rather USC sponsor men's volleyball than beach volleyball for the women. Or started a gymnastics program. I guess that's my take on the breakdancing team.
Kudos to all Gamecock athletes, whether or not a follow a particular sport (and I don't follow equestrian!).
But whether or not to sponsor (or drop) a sport is also something that I'm sure is ultimately the AD's call. I believe that UCLA and UnCarolina sponsor more varsity sports than any other school in the country.
Here is my take, you hire the best person for the job, regardless of race. When you start to use the variable of race within the decision, then you are excluding others due to their race. I don't believe in exclusivity or inclusivity; you just hire the most qualified candidate.
Any business owner who invested in his / her dream and took the financial risk should be able to hire whoever he/she wants to.
In my opinion, and I know I will be chastised for saying it. I think the black players have got their $$ and don’t want to go through the 80-90 hours a week it takes to be a head coach!! Would rather enjoy doing whatever their “thing” is. TV, golf, or just relaxing.
Look at list of Black coaches period vs Black players. IMO, they don’t want to coach.I think that's true for at least 75% of the population.
I was a white player and didn't want to coach. In my engineering career I worked very few 16 hour days. I definitely would not like that to be the norm.
I agree, but
that wasnt the theme of the THREAD!! I normally dont disagree with you Jacque, but i am merely stating MY OPINION...I was a white player and didn't want to coach. In my engineering career I worked very few 16 hour days. I definitely would not like that to be the norm.
I would say NFL playing experience does not give a candidate any sort of advantage for being a head coach. There are countless examples of top level salespeople who are promoted to sales managers and fail miserably. The skills and talent to be a player or salesman are a different set than the skill set required to be a good head coach or manager.
Mike Macdonald, the Seahawks head coach, never even played college football. The lack of an NFL playing career hasn't seemed to hurt his ability as an NFL head coach.
The dedication, passion and willingness to make the job your life keeps a lot of people out of the top level college and NFL coaching profession. One truly has to be a workaholic who is obsessed with football for either job.I think that's true for at least 75% of the population.