AB's proposal to fix CFP and the calendar

AnthonyBroome said:

I want to start by saying that this is with no G5 playoff. If you're FBS, you're part of this. 1. Move up the true start of the season to "Week 0". It's Week 1 now. 2. We're leaving Conference Championship games and bringing back divisions. If we're going to keep those, we need a little more organization and geographical sense to how our conference is aligned. 3. Conference championships now take place during Thanksgiving weekend with the schedule moved up. Most schools have a tough enough time getting fans and students on campus anyway. 4. College Football Playoff starts immediately, moves up to the weekend currently occupied by conference title games. I'm proposing a 20-team format (we're never contracting or staying the same, we have to get that out of our brains. With this model, title game is set for Jan. 5. 5. Two portal periods, one that opens the day after the title game and another that opens after spring ball. 6. Two signing periods for high school recruits: One in August and one in February. THE PLAYOFF We're just going to rip the band-aid off and go to 20 teams with the top four still getting a first-round bye. All 9 conference champions will qualify with 11 at-large spots. The committee ranks them 1-20 from there. It will be a 5-round event, with the first two played at campus sites and the final three played as currently formatted. Seeds 5–20 play:

• Game 1: 5 vs 20
• Game 2: 6 vs 19
• Game 3: 7 vs 18
• Game 4: 8 vs 17
• Game 5: 9 vs 16
• Game 6: 10 vs 15
• Game 7: 11 vs 14
• Game 8: 12 vs 13

The 8 winners from Round 1 face the top 4 seeds:

• Game 9: 1 vs Winner of Game 8 (12/13)
• Game 10: 2 vs Winner of Game 7 (11/14)
• Game 11: 3 vs Winner of Game 6 (10/15)
• Game 12: 4 vs Winner of Game 5 (9/16)
• Game 13: Winner of Game 1 (5/20) vs Winner of Game 4 (8/17)
• Game 14: Winner of Game 2 (6/19) vs Winner of Game 3 (7/18)

The quarterfinals, semis and championship games would go untouched from there. If we are going to continue to include the Group of 5 in this, then everyone is in, or nobody is in. The debates should be among the at-large teams, not those who won their conferences. They will rightfully be seeded among the bottom five most years and the level of competition will take care of itself rather quickly. Thoughts?

AnthonyBroome said:

I want to start by saying that this is with no G5 playoff. If you're FBS, you're part of this. 1. Move up the true start of the season to "Week 0". It's Week 1 now. 2. We're leaving Conference Championship games and bringing back divisions. If we're going to keep those, we need a little more organization and geographical sense to how our conference is aligned. 3. Conference championships now take place during Thanksgiving weekend with the schedule moved up. Most schools have a tough enough time getting fans and students on campus anyway. 4. College Football Playoff starts immediately, moves up to the weekend currently occupied by conference title games. I'm proposing a 20-team format (we're never contracting or staying the same, we have to get that out of our brains. With this model, title game is set for Jan. 5. 5. Two portal periods, one that opens the day after the title game and another that opens after spring ball. 6. Two signing periods for high school recruits: One in August and one in February. THE PLAYOFF We're just going to rip the band-aid off and go to 20 teams with the top four still getting a first-round bye. All 9 conference champions will qualify with 11 at-large spots. The committee ranks them 1-20 from there. It will be a 5-round event, with the first two played at campus sites and the final three played as currently formatted. Seeds 5–20 play:

• Game 1: 5 vs 20
• Game 2: 6 vs 19
• Game 3: 7 vs 18
• Game 4: 8 vs 17
• Game 5: 9 vs 16
• Game 6: 10 vs 15
• Game 7: 11 vs 14
• Game 8: 12 vs 13

The 8 winners from Round 1 face the top 4 seeds:

• Game 9: 1 vs Winner of Game 8 (12/13)
• Game 10: 2 vs Winner of Game 7 (11/14)
• Game 11: 3 vs Winner of Game 6 (10/15)
• Game 12: 4 vs Winner of Game 5 (9/16)
• Game 13: Winner of Game 1 (5/20) vs Winner of Game 4 (8/17)
• Game 14: Winner of Game 2 (6/19) vs Winner of Game 3 (7/18)

The quarterfinals, semis and championship games would go untouched from there. If we are going to continue to include the Group of 5 in this, then everyone is in, or nobody is in. The debates should be among the at-large teams, not those who won their conferences. They will rightfully be seeded among the bottom five most years and the level of competition will take care of itself rather quickly. Thoughts?

4227452330241310 said:

They are going to say 20 is too many because they already think 12 is too many which absolutely baffles me. I do not know why people get so worked up arguing for fewer meaningful football games. Yeah, the vast majority of the traditional powers are going to beat Tulane and James madison. But who cares? I would absolutely watch that game and I am never going to watch Wake Forest versus Memphis in a meaningless this bowl game. And, sometimes those lower tier Cinderella teams will win. And it'll be amazing. Anyway, I just went off on a single, specific point in your post lol, but I like it.

BlueCreek1519 said:

The Wake Forest/Memphis point has nothing to do with this. For the few extra playoff games you get by being at 12/16/20 or whatever, you devalue 5x more regular season games.

MRSharkFB said:

As Anthony said, that’s water under the bridge. We are never going backwards nor staying at 12. No point in debating or complaining about that.

Daju said:

Too many playoff/end of season games. Makes the “quality of wins” insignificant. I’d probably be done with college football and focus on NFL, better product and their games mean more than college games throughout the season. no offense, I just see this as NFL lite.

AnthonyBroome said:

The regular season has already been devalued. So let's crown a worthy champion and settle it on the field.

AnthonyBroome said:

I want to start by saying that this is with no G5 playoff. If you're FBS, you're part of this. 1. Move up the true start of the season to "Week 0". It's Week 1 now. 2. We're leaving Conference Championship games and bringing back divisions. If we're going to keep those, we need a little more organization and geographical sense to how our conference is aligned. 3. Conference championships now take place during Thanksgiving weekend with the schedule moved up. Most schools have a tough enough time getting fans and students on campus anyway. 4. College Football Playoff starts immediately, moves up to the weekend currently occupied by conference title games. I'm proposing a 20-team format (we're never contracting or staying the same, we have to get that out of our brains. With this model, title game is set for Jan. 5. 5. Two portal periods, one that opens the day after the title game and another that opens after spring ball. 6. Two signing periods for high school recruits: One in August and one in February. THE PLAYOFF We're just going to rip the band-aid off and go to 20 teams with the top four still getting a first-round bye. All 9 conference champions will qualify with 11 at-large spots. The committee ranks them 1-20 from there. It will be a 5-round event, with the first two played at campus sites and the final three played as currently formatted. Seeds 5–20 play:

• Game 1: 5 vs 20
• Game 2: 6 vs 19
• Game 3: 7 vs 18
• Game 4: 8 vs 17
• Game 5: 9 vs 16
• Game 6: 10 vs 15
• Game 7: 11 vs 14
• Game 8: 12 vs 13

The 8 winners from Round 1 face the top 4 seeds:

• Game 9: 1 vs Winner of Game 8 (12/13)
• Game 10: 2 vs Winner of Game 7 (11/14)
• Game 11: 3 vs Winner of Game 6 (10/15)
• Game 12: 4 vs Winner of Game 5 (9/16)
• Game 13: Winner of Game 1 (5/20) vs Winner of Game 4 (8/17)
• Game 14: Winner of Game 2 (6/19) vs Winner of Game 3 (7/18)

The quarterfinals, semis and championship games would go untouched from there. If we are going to continue to include the Group of 5 in this, then everyone is in, or nobody is in. The debates should be among the at-large teams, not those who won their conferences. They will rightfully be seeded among the bottom five most years and the level of competition will take care of itself rather quickly. Thoughts?

AnthonyBroome said:

None taken, they have done this to themselves. 4 to 12 was too major a leap. 6-8 would have been good, 4 was perfect.

rlaw9121 said:

Doesn't Div 2 @ Div 3 have 24 teams in their playoffs?

MRSharkFB said:

I’ll add one other thing. There is no contacting of coaches until the season is over. This will adjust the portal dates too. Have a 30 day window after the championship game for the coaching carousel to occur. Then the portal opens. This will reduce in-season firings and eliminate the Lane Kiffin situation.

AnthonyBroome said:

I want to start by saying that this is with no G5 playoff. If you're FBS, you're part of this. 1. Move up the true start of the season to "Week 0". It's Week 1 now. 2. We're leaving Conference Championship games and bringing back divisions. If we're going to keep those, we need a little more organization and geographical sense to how our conference is aligned. 3. Conference championships now take place during Thanksgiving weekend with the schedule moved up. Most schools have a tough enough time getting fans and students on campus anyway. 4. College Football Playoff starts immediately, moves up to the weekend currently occupied by conference title games. I'm proposing a 20-team format (we're never contracting or staying the same, we have to get that out of our brains. With this model, title game is set for Jan. 5. 5. Two portal periods, one that opens the day after the title game and another that opens after spring ball. 6. Two signing periods for high school recruits: One in August and one in February. THE PLAYOFF We're just going to rip the band-aid off and go to 20 teams with the top four still getting a first-round bye. All 9 conference champions will qualify with 11 at-large spots. The committee ranks them 1-20 from there. It will be a 5-round event, with the first two played at campus sites and the final three played as currently formatted. Seeds 5–20 play:

• Game 1: 5 vs 20
• Game 2: 6 vs 19
• Game 3: 7 vs 18
• Game 4: 8 vs 17
• Game 5: 9 vs 16
• Game 6: 10 vs 15
• Game 7: 11 vs 14
• Game 8: 12 vs 13

The 8 winners from Round 1 face the top 4 seeds:

• Game 9: 1 vs Winner of Game 8 (12/13)
• Game 10: 2 vs Winner of Game 7 (11/14)
• Game 11: 3 vs Winner of Game 6 (10/15)
• Game 12: 4 vs Winner of Game 5 (9/16)
• Game 13: Winner of Game 1 (5/20) vs Winner of Game 4 (8/17)
• Game 14: Winner of Game 2 (6/19) vs Winner of Game 3 (7/18)

The quarterfinals, semis and championship games would go untouched from there. If we are going to continue to include the Group of 5 in this, then everyone is in, or nobody is in. The debates should be among the at-large teams, not those who won their conferences. They will rightfully be seeded among the bottom five most years and the level of competition will take care of itself rather quickly. Thoughts?

AnthonyBroome said:

I want to start by saying that this is with no G5 playoff. If you're FBS, you're part of this. 1. Move up the true start of the season to "Week 0". It's Week 1 now. 2. We're leaving Conference Championship games and bringing back divisions. If we're going to keep those, we need a little more organization and geographical sense to how our conference is aligned. 3. Conference championships now take place during Thanksgiving weekend with the schedule moved up. Most schools have a tough enough time getting fans and students on campus anyway. 4. College Football Playoff starts immediately, moves up to the weekend currently occupied by conference title games. I'm proposing a 20-team format (we're never contracting or staying the same, we have to get that out of our brains. With this model, title game is set for Jan. 5. 5. Two portal periods, one that opens the day after the title game and another that opens after spring ball. 6. Two signing periods for high school recruits: One in August and one in February. THE PLAYOFF We're just going to rip the band-aid off and go to 20 teams with the top four still getting a first-round bye. All 9 conference champions will qualify with 11 at-large spots. The committee ranks them 1-20 from there. It will be a 5-round event, with the first two played at campus sites and the final three played as currently formatted. Seeds 5–20 play:

• Game 1: 5 vs 20
• Game 2: 6 vs 19
• Game 3: 7 vs 18
• Game 4: 8 vs 17
• Game 5: 9 vs 16
• Game 6: 10 vs 15
• Game 7: 11 vs 14
• Game 8: 12 vs 13

The 8 winners from Round 1 face the top 4 seeds:

• Game 9: 1 vs Winner of Game 8 (12/13)
• Game 10: 2 vs Winner of Game 7 (11/14)
• Game 11: 3 vs Winner of Game 6 (10/15)
• Game 12: 4 vs Winner of Game 5 (9/16)
• Game 13: Winner of Game 1 (5/20) vs Winner of Game 4 (8/17)
• Game 14: Winner of Game 2 (6/19) vs Winner of Game 3 (7/18)

The quarterfinals, semis and championship games would go untouched from there. If we are going to continue to include the Group of 5 in this, then everyone is in, or nobody is in. The debates should be among the at-large teams, not those who won their conferences. They will rightfully be seeded among the bottom five most years and the level of competition will take care of itself rather quickly. Thoughts?

MRSharkFB said:

As Anthony said, that’s water under the bridge. We are never going backwards nor staying at 12. No point in debating or complaining about that.

BlueCreek1519 said:

I was simply responding to the poster’s point. Am I allowed to do that?

MRSharkFB said:

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AnthonyBroome said:

I want to start by saying that this is with no G5 playoff. If you're FBS, you're part of this. 1. Move up the true start of the season to "Week 0". It's Week 1 now. 2. We're leaving Conference Championship games and bringing back divisions. If we're going to keep those, we need a little more organization and geographical sense to how our conference is aligned. 3. Conference championships now take place during Thanksgiving weekend with the schedule moved up. Most schools have a tough enough time getting fans and students on campus anyway. 4. College Football Playoff starts immediately, moves up to the weekend currently occupied by conference title games. I'm proposing a 20-team format (we're never contracting or staying the same, we have to get that out of our brains. With this model, title game is set for Jan. 5. 5. Two portal periods, one that opens the day after the title game and another that opens after spring ball. 6. Two signing periods for high school recruits: One in August and one in February. THE PLAYOFF We're just going to rip the band-aid off and go to 20 teams with the top four still getting a first-round bye. All 9 conference champions will qualify with 11 at-large spots. The committee ranks them 1-20 from there. It will be a 5-round event, with the first two played at campus sites and the final three played as currently formatted. Seeds 5–20 play:

• Game 1: 5 vs 20
• Game 2: 6 vs 19
• Game 3: 7 vs 18
• Game 4: 8 vs 17
• Game 5: 9 vs 16
• Game 6: 10 vs 15
• Game 7: 11 vs 14
• Game 8: 12 vs 13

The 8 winners from Round 1 face the top 4 seeds:

• Game 9: 1 vs Winner of Game 8 (12/13)
• Game 10: 2 vs Winner of Game 7 (11/14)
• Game 11: 3 vs Winner of Game 6 (10/15)
• Game 12: 4 vs Winner of Game 5 (9/16)
• Game 13: Winner of Game 1 (5/20) vs Winner of Game 4 (8/17)
• Game 14: Winner of Game 2 (6/19) vs Winner of Game 3 (7/18)

The quarterfinals, semis and championship games would go untouched from there. If we are going to continue to include the Group of 5 in this, then everyone is in, or nobody is in. The debates should be among the at-large teams, not those who won their conferences. They will rightfully be seeded among the bottom five most years and the level of competition will take care of itself rather quickly. Thoughts?

AnthonyBroome said:

I'm proposing a 20-team format

BlueCreek1519 said:

The Wake Forest/Memphis point has nothing to do with this. For the few extra playoff games you get by being at 12/16/20 or whatever, you devalue 5x more regular season games.

AnthonyBroome said:

I want to start by saying that this is with no G5 playoff. If you're FBS, you're part of this. 1. Move up the true start of the season to "Week 0". It's Week 1 now. 2. We're leaving Conference Championship games and bringing back divisions. If we're going to keep those, we need a little more organization and geographical sense to how our conference is aligned. 3. Conference championships now take place during Thanksgiving weekend with the schedule moved up. Most schools have a tough enough time getting fans and students on campus anyway. 4. College Football Playoff starts immediately, moves up to the weekend currently occupied by conference title games. I'm proposing a 20-team format (we're never contracting or staying the same, we have to get that out of our brains. With this model, title game is set for Jan. 5. 5. Two portal periods, one that opens the day after the title game and another that opens after spring ball. 6. Two signing periods for high school recruits: One in August and one in February. THE PLAYOFF We're just going to rip the band-aid off and go to 20 teams with the top four still getting a first-round bye. All 9 conference champions will qualify with 11 at-large spots. The committee ranks them 1-20 from there. It will be a 5-round event, with the first two played at campus sites and the final three played as currently formatted. Seeds 5–20 play:

• Game 1: 5 vs 20
• Game 2: 6 vs 19
• Game 3: 7 vs 18
• Game 4: 8 vs 17
• Game 5: 9 vs 16
• Game 6: 10 vs 15
• Game 7: 11 vs 14
• Game 8: 12 vs 13

The 8 winners from Round 1 face the top 4 seeds:

• Game 9: 1 vs Winner of Game 8 (12/13)
• Game 10: 2 vs Winner of Game 7 (11/14)
• Game 11: 3 vs Winner of Game 6 (10/15)
• Game 12: 4 vs Winner of Game 5 (9/16)
• Game 13: Winner of Game 1 (5/20) vs Winner of Game 4 (8/17)
• Game 14: Winner of Game 2 (6/19) vs Winner of Game 3 (7/18)

The quarterfinals, semis and championship games would go untouched from there. If we are going to continue to include the Group of 5 in this, then everyone is in, or nobody is in. The debates should be among the at-large teams, not those who won their conferences. They will rightfully be seeded among the bottom five most years and the level of competition will take care of itself rather quickly. Thoughts?