Anybody in here still think a 4-team Playoff is better than 12?

Yes

Without a doubt, 4 was perfect. There is pretty much never more than three teams worthy of playing for a national championship. Undefeated Texas A&M is walking into Tiger Stadium tonight and if they lose, the consensus reaction will rightfully be a shoulder shrug.

GoldenMoth said:

Without a doubt, 4 was perfect. There is pretty much never more than three teams worthy of playing for a national championship.

No way - just look at this "dud" weekend in CFB. How many games that are now meaningful now that would not be if we had just 4?

GoldenMoth said:

Without a doubt, 4 was perfect. There is pretty much never more than three teams worthy of playing for a national championship.

More football is never a wrong answer. Go to 16, eliminate conference championship games and replace them with conference play-in games and November, December & January CFB is unrivaled. Jmho

michb14 said:

No way - just look at this "dud" weekend in CFB. How many games that are now meaningful now that would not be if we had just 4?

Only finding joy in games with playoff implications is a terrible way to enjoy the sport, first and foremost. How many games have already been played or will be played this year that would’ve been playoff eliminators in the past, but instead were ultimately not all that meaningful?

At least its nice to know Michigan was the last real champion.

GoldenMoth said:

Only finding joy in games with playoff implications is a terrible way to enjoy the sport, first and foremost. How many games have already been played or will be played this year that would’ve been playoff eliminators in the past, but instead were ultimately not all that meaningful?

Ok please name those games and state why being eliminated in early Sept is good for the game for any team. The amount of important games in today's world is so much more than in the past and its not even close.

michb14 said:

Just look at all these games all over the country that could affect the playoff because now we have 12 instead of 4. Entertaining as hell!

How many SEC games are you watching today?

michb14 said:

Just look at all these games all over the country that could affect the playoff because now we have 12 instead of 4. Entertaining as hell!

You do realize there was more drama under the 4 team model because losses were more crippling, right?

I love it since Bama is about to have 2 losses.

SoCalTigr said:

How many SEC games are you watching today?

I've got YTTV so I got 4 screens going and I'm watching all of them. Got anything else?

When you have 2-loss, non-rival beating, non-conference champions winning Natty's it cheapens the sport....

michb14 said:

I've got YTTV so I got 4 screens going and I'm watching all of them. Got anything else?

No, you made my point for me.

BCS > than any playoff

SoCalTigr said:

No, you made my point for me.

Remind me again what that point is

GoldenMoth said:

Without a doubt, 4 was perfect. There is pretty much never more than three teams worthy of playing for a national championship. Undefeated Texas A&M is walking into Tiger Stadium tonight and if they lose, the consensus reaction will rightfully be a shoulder shrug.

Certainly proven with how much the top 4 seeds dominated last year.

michb14 said:

Remind me again what that point is

That B!G conference games are 94% meaningless exhibitions.

12 is dumb. 8 or 16

Y

head2383 said:

Certainly proven with how much the top 4 seeds dominated last year.

Yeah man, Arizona St and Boise St would’ve definitely been selected for a four-team playoff and weren’t let in purely because of the 12-team format. You got me.

Whiskey&Weed said:

You do realize there was more drama under the 4 team model because losses were more crippling, right?

Games that had some meaning today because of the 12 team playoff instead of 4, just off the top of my head: Illinois/Wash Missou/Vandy - sorry guys in a 4 team playoff neither of these teams are sniffing it Baylor/Cincy BYU/ISU - no way BYU makes the 4 team Mich/MSU Iowa/Minny - Yes Iowa is not eliminated yet and they are very underrated NC Sate/Pitt- Pitt is still in it did you see their schedule? UVA/UNC OSU/Texas Tech - In 4 team TT probably already out which would be so unfair Houston/ASU Texas/MSU - Texas still in it until today unless they have a miracle USF/Memphis BC/Louisville Tenn/Kentucky- UT is not eliminated yet either Any questions class?

It all sucks. As long as it treated like Rhythmic Gymnastics in the Olympics it's a beauty pageant. The conferences need to be assigned bids and they sort it out themselves.

k5gator said:

12 is dumb. 8 or 16

No byes and home field advantage are what make the 12 team better = every game has meaning