BV let’s keep it real

I mean you mean to tell me basically every year we’re going to at least have a top 10-15 D…. That’s a hell of an advantage to have year in and year out in the SEC

I really hope you're right, but we're going to find out what this D is really made of this weekend. To me, it feels like we've played some really bad offenses so far, including Texas. I think we're very susceptible on the back end, but I hope I'm wrong.

Never had a worry about the defense. Offensive hires and game management have always been the issues/concerns. Arbuckle seems like a good hire but still a lot of issues on that side. Whether BV can continuously make good hires will determine how long he is here. Very fine line between 6 wins and 10 wins in this conference.

He's the right guy for this league. Made a horrible decision last year with Seth pushing Gabriel out. Might still cost him his job. However, if he made the correct choices with Arbuckle and Mateer (jury still out but they are close to coming to a verdict) then we have an opportunity to play for championships in the best conference in football. That will lead to trophies. Culture is vastly more important than flashy offenses and QB's etc, ask USC, Ole Miss etc. UGA, Bammer, tOSU etc. are tough SOBs with good QBs.

if we beat Ole Miss, it will go an awfully long way for BV. by far the best offense we'll face to date. Lane vs BV will be wild to witness. I still worry about our ability to run the ball/create explosive plays

Seeing other teams burn money to fire their coaches every 3-4 years doesn't look very fun

MrCash said:

if we beat Ole Miss, it will go an awfully long way for BV. by far the best offense we'll face to date. Lane vs BV will be wild to witness. I still worry about our ability to run the ball/create explosive plays

We need @George_Stoia to ask Lane about UFA on the conference call this week. Get that dude distracted.

BV is the right guy. He is just learning on the job, in the toughest League, in a time period that has completely changed the landscape of College Football. To take on what he has, as a first time head coach, has been, and is, a monumental task. Things haven't went as well as we all hoped or would like and expect. BUT......he is the right guy for OU. This is his dream job, he loves everything about OU Football, and has the right mindset and personality for Oklahoma. I get as disgusted and frustrated as anybody. But, I don't question whether he is the right guy.

The way I look at, looking around the country and trying to think who would be a better HC at OU. If we fire Brent, who realistically is out there, that will come in and do a significantly better job? i think there are maybe a few guys that obviously would be an upgrade. But getting them to OU is a long shot.

DB576 said:

Seeing other teams burn money to fire their coaches every 3-4 years doesn't look very fun

It’s insane… I get situations like Florida or FSU maybe but not even 2 years ago they gave dude 100 Million. PSU is going to regret firing Franklin imo.

Jay_Rye said:

The way I look at, looking around the country and trying to think who would be a better HC at OU. If we fire Brent, who realistically is out there, that will come in and do a significantly better job? i think there are maybe a few guys that obviously would be an upgrade. But getting them to OU is a long shot.

THIS … they’re are any sure fire dudes … and he’ll even if they are teams like Indiana and Mizzou are locking them down now. Basically put to get any ROI we’re going to have to roll the dice and hire a Will Stein or a Dillingham .. both unproven in this type of league.

BV decisions and game mgmt have frustrated the hell out of me; however, the more I think about it and with the landscape that is CFB now days. I think he can get us there if we are patient. Obviously want to see improvement, but I do believe he will learn and build that offense to match that defense. Hes got to get the recruits in but hes started to build from the OLine out with the recruits we have committed and Fasusi and Fodje this year. Pluse we have Bowe Bentley committed. I think as much as it sucks to lose the last few years, the foundation is there. Maybe Im just back on the hopium train but I have a feeling even if we finish 8-4 or 7-5 (God forbid) he should stay.

Dannnn said:

THIS … they’re are any sure fire dudes … and he’ll even if they are teams like Indiana and Mizzou are locking them down now. Basically put to get any ROI we’re going to have to roll the dice and hire a Will Stein or a Dillingham .. both unproven in this type of league.

The only sure fire dudes are locked down. Cignetti is locked. Lane??? Maybe?? But would he be a huge improvement? Would he even want to be at OU. Lanning? I can maybe see an argument for.

Dannnn said:

As much as we have all ragged on him for his missteps and lack of foresight … im really starting to believe in what he is building here. Good things come to those who wait and I think our period of waiting and seeing is about to end. We’re 6-1 with a hell if an opportunity to end the year strong and keep building for next year… Im not naive enough to think we’re wining it all this year .. but when you think about it what we’re building here is really a strong stable foundation built on the LOS. I mean we lose our 2 best D players, Stuts and Billy and we IMPROVE ON D ?! wtf … in years past we take a sizable step back. I mean we’re maybe the best D in the nation. Statistically speaking …. ******* nasty on the D line .. The O with BA is staring to round into form too ? … **** LOOK OUT **** is about to get scary and like I said before we’re taking *** or cash and last time I checked these suckas on borrowed time ******* with us.

We are 6-1 and this team still has not played their best football game on the season. The goal is not to be a great week 1, it is to be great by week 12.

I used to roll my eyes at all the SEC talk regarding how physically demanding the league play is/was. But......its the honest truth. The play style in this Conference is so physical, every damn game, you just have to experience it to believe it. Every game is a freaking ROCK FIGHT. Every team in this Conference can beat each other. Every team has good players, the LOS battles every game are nasty. The talent in the back end of these defenses is on a complete different level than the Big 12. The Big 12 had and has very good teams, mainly built around offense. The SEC has it ALL.

Dannnn said:

As much as we have all ragged on him for his missteps and lack of foresight … im really starting to believe in what he is building here. Good things come to those who wait and I think our period of waiting and seeing is about to end. We’re 6-1 with a hell if an opportunity to end the year strong and keep building for next year… Im not naive enough to think we’re wining it all this year .. but when you think about it what we’re building here is really a strong stable foundation built on the LOS. I mean we lose our 2 best D players, Stuts and Billy and we IMPROVE ON D ?! wtf … in years past we take a sizable step back. I mean we’re maybe the best D in the nation. Statistically speaking …. ******* nasty on the D line .. The O with BA is staring to round into form too ? … **** LOOK OUT **** is about to get scary and like I said before we’re taking *** or cash and last time I checked these suckas on borrowed time ******* with us.

This is where I've been since he got here... And that's the problem. Do we see glimpses of what he's been building? Absolutely. But it's so inconsistent. Our final 5 games this year will tell us everything we need to know. There will be no room for any more questions after year 4 with this schedule. We finish 9-3, we'll no longer WANT to believe - we'll be fully there. We finish 7-5, I'm done. Hell... even 8-4... I'm likely done too - depends on HOW we finish 8-4... but he's literally in year 4 of this. His '26 team - on paper - will be the best he's had since he's been here... but it all depends on how we finish this season. I will also add this - if we beat Ole Miss on Saturday... I'll be buying BIG on BV going forward.

Jay_Rye said:

The only sure fire dudes are locked down. Cignetti is locked. Lane??? Maybe?? But would he be a huge improvement? Would he even want to be at OU. Lanning? I can maybe see an argument for.

Lane? Not sure where the Lane hype comes from. He has literally never won anything.

So, I really hate the idea of letting BV go for a few reasons. 1) I really think he is good at retaining players, and most of the players are here because of him. Again, that is speculation on my part, but I would fear a mass exodus if he were let go. 2) As long as we have a good defense, we have a chance to be really good. If we lose players, we have no defense to accompany the subpar offense. 3) There is no guarantee in a homerun hire. I mean my real fear would be to bring in a "home rom hire" to take over a depleted roster and hope in 3 or 4 years we would be competing for championships. If not, rinse and repeat every 3 or 4 years and get marginally worse each time. At least now, we have a really good defense, even if they have a game or 2 that isn't pretty down the stretch, and our offense is much better than last year. Still don't have faith in the offensive line or running game, even after a good showing on Saturday, but at least it is better, and will be better next year I just think it will take more than 2 years to correct the SL mistake on offense, no matter who the HC is.

sooner steamroll said:

This is where I've been since he got here... And that's the problem. Do we see glimpses of what he's been building? Absolutely. But it's so inconsistent. Our final 5 games this year will tell us everything we need to know. There will be no room for any more questions after year 4 with this schedule. We finish 9-3, we'll no longer WANT to believe - we'll be fully there. We finish 7-5, I'm done. Hell... even 8-4... I'm likely done too - depends on HOW we finish 8-4... but he's literally in year 4 of this. His '26 team - on paper - will be the best he's had since he's been here... but it all depends on how we finish this season. I will also add this - if we beat Ole Miss on Saturday... I'll be buying BIG on BV going forward.

hit the absolute nail on the head. i want to believe so damn bad. if he could get it humming the longterm outlook is far better with BV at the helm. his HC record is worrisome to say the least. but like you said we'll get nearly all of our answers in this gauntlet of a stretch

sooner steamroll said:

This is where I've been since he got here... And that's the problem. Do we see glimpses of what he's been building? Absolutely. But it's so inconsistent. Our final 5 games this year will tell us everything we need to know. There will be no room for any more questions after year 4 with this schedule. We finish 9-3, we'll no longer WANT to believe - we'll be fully there. We finish 7-5, I'm done. Hell... even 8-4... I'm likely done too - depends on HOW we finish 8-4... but he's literally in year 4 of this. His '26 team - on paper - will be the best he's had since he's been here... but it all depends on how we finish this season. I will also add this - if we beat Ole Miss on Saturday... I'll be buying BIG on BV going forward.

We definitely have seen glimpses of it. However, he had to come in and really do a complete program rebuild. Somewhere along the way from when Stoops took over and rebuilt the program, it slowly declined. Maybe it had to do with the direction the offenses went in the Big 12 and the focus led to getting better and better skill position players since that conference was really 7-on-7. Or maybe it was because when Stoops stepped down, he thought the guy he handpicked to take over for him was a guy that would continue on what he built. He was obviously wrong. The lessons Bob taught TBOW were thrown out when he took over. Brent came in. He identified a cultural issue. He knew that the Sooners were taking their services to the SEC and he knew exactly what that conference was like. We all here thought it would not be as tough of an adjustment. But we were wrong as fans. BV had to start with the defense, he had to get quality depth at all levels, and he is actually still working it, but the core is there. Yes, the offense seemed to have suffered, but he brought in Lebby, and that offense was top 20, though not complimentary to the defense. Lebby leaves and BV thought promoting SL was the right move. We know it was not. He corrected that half way through the season. He brings in a young and upcoming coach to restructure the offense. There are pieces there, but it will be a year or so before we really see that fruit take shape. In the meantime, BV has in place the core that will lead to success in the SEC if people will just be patient, that is a very good defense. We need to remember the old saying, "Offense may win you games, but Defense wins you championships."

MrCash said:

if we beat Ole Miss, it will go an awfully long way for BV. by far the best offense we'll face to date. Lane vs BV will be wild to witness. I still worry about our ability to run the ball/create explosive plays

Good thing ole miss d line is ass. Texas defense the best defense we’ll play in the regular season.

Dannnn said:

As much as we have all ragged on him for his missteps and lack of foresight … im really starting to believe in what he is building here. Good things come to those who wait and I think our period of waiting and seeing is about to end. We’re 6-1 with a hell if an opportunity to end the year strong and keep building for next year… Im not naive enough to think we’re wining it all this year .. but when you think about it what we’re building here is really a strong stable foundation built on the LOS. I mean we lose our 2 best D players, Stuts and Billy and we IMPROVE ON D ?! wtf … in years past we take a sizable step back. I mean we’re maybe the best D in the nation. Statistically speaking …. ******* nasty on the D line .. The O with BA is staring to round into form too ? … **** LOOK OUT **** is about to get scary and like I said before we’re taking *** or cash and last time I checked these suckas on borrowed time ******* with us.

BV is going to stumble around and figure out how to go 8-4 Kool-Aid stans will tell you that is a good year and that OU only didn't go 10-2 because of (insert horseshiit excuses here). Probably find a way to blame Lincoln Riley, too The people who already hate him will continue to hate him and be mad about it all offseason Most people will recognize that with all the variables of the season, coaching carousel, money, timing with Joe and Nagy, roster age, and schedule coming up, that it probably doesn't make sense to make a move and give OU a chance to have a good season in 26 Thanks for coming to my TED talk