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Defense Stinks because NIL is Insufficient

Currently on the plane to go watch the biggest testiment to our NIL failures, Mohamed Toure , excel against Florida, for Miami. He’d easily be our best defensive player, today, even at much less than 100%. How much better would this defense be with Toure and Wesley Bailey? I’d say a lot better. Instead, we have serious defensive deficiencies at all three levels. In particular, The ends and tackles were seriously manhandled yesterday, and were clearly gassed at the end of the game. This fanbase just isn’t serious about fielding successful football or basketball teams. Thankfully we are serious about complaining on the messageboard. If we were serious, we would have collectively donated at least $5M. Even this amount pales in comparison to the $20M that Ohio State spends. For starters, we need 1,000 donating 1,000 for NIL. So we will always be at a disadvantage against programs with fans serious about competing, IE Iowa, whose quarterback alone is getting $1M+. So we do the best we can, competing on the cheap, and hope for the best, knowing that the outcome probably isn’t going to be to our liking against the better teams on our schedule. Our best team in a long time was 10 pts worse than Iowa. Nevertheless, Satisfied with the effort out there, and we should fall within our normal’s 5 to 9 Win performance band. It’s just a shame we will be wasting the stellar performances of our quarterback and Wide Receivers. Athan, if he maintains his current trajectory, will be drafted. Ian Strong and Korey Duff will be pursued, during the NIL period, and offered big bags. We waited so long to watch a strong quarterback, strong running back and and strong wide receiver performances, and it’s all for naught because the defense stinks.
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MCRU93

Sep 20, 12:40 PM

I’d rather read more comments from Bac and Cali than this post right now. Cmon man
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RUAir-Raid

Sep 20, 12:41 PM

I mean we did spend money in the portal this offseason for defensive players. A lot of people on this board thought they were going to be good. Turns out, that wasn’t the case🤷‍♂️
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RU46

Sep 20, 12:46 PM

Not today, Al. Coaching stunk!!!!! NIL doesn’t fix that part of it.
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fatsam98

Sep 20, 12:47 PM

You can't use this as an excuse when the offense is as good as it is. I'd also rather read people complaining on a message board than you starting these threads solely to indirectly remind everyone that you're able to contribute to NIL.
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RuNYC

Sep 20, 12:47 PM

They didn’t lose this game because of NIL. They lost this game because Rob Smith was a bad hire and Schiano knows it.
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Scarlet Shack

Sep 20, 12:47 PM

rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
Currently on the plane to go watch the biggest testiment to our NIL failures, Mohamed Toure , excel against Florida, for Miami. He’d easily be our best defensive player, today, even at much less than 100%. How much better would this defense be with Toure and Wesley Bailey? I’d say a lot better. Instead, we have serious defensive deficiencies at all three levels. In particular, The ends and tackles were seriously manhandled yesterday, and were clearly gassed at the end of the game. This fanbase just isn’t serious about fielding successful football or basketball teams. Thankfully we are serious about complaining on the messageboard. If we were serious, we would have collectively donated at least $5M. Even this amount pales in comparison to the $20M that Ohio State spends. For starters, we need 1,000 donating 1,000 for NIL. So we will always be at a disadvantage against programs with fans serious about competing, IE Iowa, whose quarterback alone is getting $1M+. So we do the best we can, competing on the cheap, and hope for the best, knowing that the outcome probably isn’t going to be to our liking against the better teams on our schedule. Our best team in a long time was 10 pts worse than Iowa. Nevertheless, Satisfied with the effort out there, and we should fall within our normal’s 5 to 9 Win performance band. It’s just a shame we will be wasting the stellar performances of our quarterback and Wide Receivers. Athan, if he maintains his current trajectory, will be drafted. Ian Strong and Korey Duff will be pursued, during the NIL period, and offered big bags. We waited so long to watch a strong quarterback, strong running back and and strong wide receiver performances, and it’s all for naught because the defense stinks.
Your math is off (1000 x 1000 is a million, your off by 10x and that’s not enough) but your premise is correct Until we have fully competitive resources , we send out coaches out to fight the uphill battle … this isn’t different than basketball, surrounding Dylan and Ace with an inferior portal group last year …becaue of lack of resources , while mag and cliff were playing each other in the sweet 16 …. the reality is….the money will have to come from outside this current fan base …as it is just NOT there . people showed up on a Friday night . It’s not a lack of not wanting to suport / the money isn’t there in that group kelli has a lot of work to do to get $$$$ in this program from new places …and FAST
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RuNYC

Sep 20, 12:48 PM

We scored 28 points and had 400 total yards. You are suppose to win that game.
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Steve91562

Sep 20, 12:51 PM

Rutgers needs to wins games like last night to help change the narrative. College FB still mostly about talent acquisition, coaching important but secondary, and NIL impacts that, obviously, but it is what it is. You need someone who will succeed under the unique constraints of Rutgers, and not keep waiting for something that is not likely to change. We are part of the large group of "have nots" or "have little" when it comes to NIL, and that will probably always be the case. Plus, spending big NIL is no guarantee See eg, FSU last year. I'll take competitive mediocrity over the Ash debacle years, but at some point, got to win games like last night. Nice turnout and atmosphere though.
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Scarlet Shack

Sep 20, 1:17 PM

RuNYC said:
We scored 28 points and had 400 total yards. You are suppose to win that game.
This is NOT correct in 2025 28 points is slightly above average 400 yards is slightly above average Those numbers put you IN the game …not supposed to win the game …
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koleszar

Sep 20, 1:21 PM

RuNYC said:
We scored 28 points and had 400 total yards. You are suppose to win that game.
Sorry but that was yesterday's college football. In today's college football teams routinely score in the 30's. The age of the rock fight is over.
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biazza38

Sep 20, 1:28 PM

Scarlet Shack said:
This is NOT correct in 2025 28 points is slightly above average 400 yards is slightly above average Those numbers put you IN the game …not supposed to win the game …
We also had two missed field goals. The offense did its job. The defense and specials teams were atrocious
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rutgersal_rivals139582

Sep 20, 3:08 PM

MCRU93 said:
I’d rather read more comments from Bac and Cali than this post right now. Cmon man
Do whatever you want. No one is stopping you.
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rutgersal_rivals139582

Sep 20, 3:13 PM

RUAir-Raid said:
I mean we did spend money in the portal this offseason for defensive players. A lot of people on this board thought they were going to be good. Turns out, that wasn’t the case🤷‍♂️
Sure we spent some money, but nowhere near the level of our peers like Iowa, whom were expected to compete with. Cory Heatherman could have had the DC job, but turned it down, to coach better players at Miami. If that isn’t an indictment of our inadequate efforts, I don’t know what is.
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rutgersal_rivals139582

Sep 20, 3:14 PM

RU46 said:
Not today, Al. Coaching stunk!!!!! NIL doesn’t fix that part of it.
Was it coaching that made our defensive line look like they were playing on roller skates? No, It wasn’t. It was a lack of talent.
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RUAir-Raid

Sep 20, 3:16 PM

rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
Was it coaching that made our defensive line look like they were playing on roller skates? No, It wasn’t. It was a lack of talent.
Special teams issues I don’t think relates to NIL or lack of talent. That’s coaching…
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rutgersal_rivals139582

Sep 20, 3:17 PM

RuNYC said:
They didn’t lose this game because of NIL. They lost this game because Rob Smith was a bad hire and Schiano knows it.
What specifically should Robb Smith have done differently that would led to a better outcome? It’s kind of hard to be successful when your defensive line is being manhandled at the point of attack. This makes it difficult for the rest of the defense to succeed.
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SirScarlet

Sep 20, 3:17 PM

rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
Sure we spent some money, but nowhere near the level of our peers like Iowa, whom were expected to compete with. Cory Heatherman could have had the DC job, but turned it down, to coach better players at Miami. If that isn’t an indictment of our inadequate efforts, I don’t know what is.
And yet we still should have won the game yesterday. This is the part you don't get. It's the part you will never get. No one is arguing that we can't have more talent and better players etc. But we did not lose yesterday because of nil. We lost because our coach is a numbnuts who has no feel for the game and took his foot off the gas allowing Iowa to get to halftime and make adjustments. And our players made too many mistakes in a big moment which is par for the course with .500 Greggy
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The RUT

Sep 20, 3:17 PM

Even with the username being weird I knew this was an Al post just by seeing the thread title. Our defense sucks because we struck out on DC hires. Our defense will improve when GS decides it’s time to micromanage the defense.
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rutgersal_rivals139582

Sep 20, 3:20 PM

Scarlet Shack said:
Your math is off (1000 x 1000 is a million, your off by 10x and that’s not enough) but your premise is correct Until we have fully competitive resources , we send out coaches out to fight the uphill battle … this isn’t different than basketball, surrounding Dylan and Ace with an inferior portal group last year …becaue of lack of resources , while mag and cliff were playing each other in the sweet 16 …. the reality is….the money will have to come from outside this current fan base …as it is just NOT there . people showed up on a Friday night . It’s not a lack of not wanting to suport / the money isn’t there in that group kelli has a lot of work to do to get $$$$ in this program from new places …and FAST
We have to start somewhere. Once we raise a million, then we can worry 2 million, and so on.
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Caliknight

Sep 20, 3:22 PM

Al or anyone else please provide a list of NIL for both teams
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nctcmike

Sep 20, 3:23 PM

Al, Heatherman was unable to take a BIG dc job per his contract with Minnesota.
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Caliknight

Sep 20, 3:26 PM

MCRU93 said:
I’d rather read more comments from Bac and Cali than this post right now. Cmon man
That was actually funny
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rutgersal_rivals139582

Sep 20, 3:31 PM

SirScarlet said:
And yet we still should have won the game yesterday. This is the part you don't get. It's the part you will never get. No one is arguing that we can't have more talent and better players etc. But we did not lose yesterday because of nil. We lost because our coach is a numbnuts who has no feel for the game and took his foot off the gas allowing Iowa to get to halftime and make adjustments. And our players made too many mistakes in a big moment which is par for the course with .500 Greggy
What you don’t understand is that the biggest reason we gave up 31 points yesterday, is the defense lacks talent. No amount of coaching would have stopped the defensive line from being manhandled. It’s clearly a talent issue.
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Richie O

Sep 20, 3:33 PM

rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
What you don’t understand is that the biggest reason we gave up 38 points yesterday, is the defense lacks talent. No amount of coaching would have stopped the defensive line from being manhandled. It’s clearly a talent issue.
That’s a recruiting issue, not an NIL issue. There are far more misses than hits over the last few classes.

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