ESPN with the ironic possible replacement for Napier

I said in another thread, CAG doesn't seem very interested in just taking the first P4 that comes along. Right now UF feels like a career-ender. At the same time, I'm sure CAG and other coaches have noticed that Jeff Traylor stayed at UTSA and the bloom has come off his rose. USF is a stronger program than UTSA, but Traylor probably has lost several million dollars by not striking when the iron was hot. I'm not sure any P4 would take Traylor now. On the flip side, Jason Candle has stayed at Toledo and still seems to have a P4 market. I've also always said that if a coach wins a conference title at USF and then leaves, I'll be a happy camper. Cincy had a ton of success as a stepping stone and I would rather be the best stepping stone program in the country than hire a middling guy who might stay longer.

Kelly Quinlan said:

https://www.on3.com/news/espn-names-8-coaches-to-watch-if-florida-moves-on-from-billy-napier/ For what it is worth in the past, Golesh has seemed very uninterested in the Gators' job.

Which leads to the question if not a perceived top half of SEC job as a first P2 job then what is something he may want whenever the opportunity presents itself. I'm of the mindset that a coach in this day and age of players coming and going yearly really needs to strike when the iron is hot. We all know CWT jumped a yr too soon but that was because back then other than Mack the band was together for another year and he could have landed a better job than Oregon...though FSU was dumb enough to bail him out of his dumb decision so at the end the only one that got hurt was us... For someone like CAG if he is hot at the end of this yr he really doesn't know what this team would look like when coaching hires is happening, it's not an easy decision. As quickly as you are the next hot thing you can be forgotten.

The ones Golesh would be after would be what I’d call the top 5-8 jobs in the sport. Unfortunately for Gator fans that isn’t them. Ohio State ND michigan Texas Oregon those are the ones where resources and expectations line up. Bama, UF, even my alma mater UGA don’t have the money backing that those aforementioned programs do or in some cases there is weird baggage issues like A&M that has limited success there. Florida has both of those issues from what I’ve heard from people who have worked there under multiple head coaches.

ok, if that is the case I think he will be at USF a long time

Kelly Quinlan said:

The ones Golesh would be after would be what I’d call the top 5-8 jobs in the sport. Unfortunately for Gator fans that isn’t them. Ohio State ND michigan Texas Oregon those are the ones where resources and expectations line up. Bama, UF, even my alma mater UGA don’t have the money backing that those aforementioned programs do or in some cases there is weird baggage issues like A&M that has limited success there. Florida has both of those issues from what I’ve heard from people who have worked there under multiple head coaches.

Obviously wishful thinking but I definitely agree. He could be a money long term guy, but he’s been pretty calculated with all his moves. Someone like a Mississippi State would be able to give him a moderate pay bump but then he’d have an uphill battle to win while getting outspent like crazy in conference. I don’t think he has the resume for top jobs right now. We most likely can pay near P4 level and his easiest shot to win to pad his resume is here. I think long term Ryan Day won’t stay at Ohio State, either he gets canned from too many 9-10 win seasons or he goes to the NFL. If that happens and Golesh keeps his trajectory up, he’s 1B behind Marcus Freeman for that job.

Kelly Quinlan said:

https://www.on3.com/news/espn-names-8-coaches-to-watch-if-florida-moves-on-from-billy-napier/ For what it is worth in the past, Golesh has seemed very uninterested in the Gators' job.

Why would anyone unless it's just for money. Look at UF's schedule and a fan base that has zero patience and expects nothing short of Urban Meyer type results. CAG makes a lot of money with USF and will most likely see a big raise this year or next with an extension. He is at a school with massive resources for the G5 which really gives him the edge of competitively over most of the American conference. You take an SEC job then you are squarely putting yourself into the fire.

Kelly Quinlan said:

The ones Golesh would be after would be what I’d call the top 5-8 jobs in the sport. Unfortunately for Gator fans that isn’t them. Ohio State ND michigan Texas Oregon those are the ones where resources and expectations line up. Bama, UF, even my alma mater UGA don’t have the money backing that those aforementioned programs do or in some cases there is weird baggage issues like A&M that has limited success there. Florida has both of those issues from what I’ve heard from people who have worked there under multiple head coaches.

I agree completely. He grew up in Ohio so like any Ohio kid that Ohio State job is huge. I grew up in Ohio until age 14. In Ohio unlike Florida where we have UF, FSU, UM, UCF, USF and not to mention a massive population of retirees from the midwest especially from Ohio who bring their allegiances, In Sarasota I see as many Ohio State shirts, flags and other swag as I do UF. In Ohio it's Ohio State all day everyday with a second being Notre Dame. Cincinnati would be a far far far off third. Urban Meyer was an Ohio kid and had in his contract with UF that his buyout was negated if he was leaving for Ohio State or Michigan.

Kelly Quinlan said:

The ones Golesh would be after would be what I’d call the top 5-8 jobs in the sport. Unfortunately for Gator fans that isn’t them. Ohio State ND michigan Texas Oregon those are the ones where resources and expectations line up. Bama, UF, even my alma mater UGA don’t have the money backing that those aforementioned programs do or in some cases there is weird baggage issues like A&M that has limited success there. Florida has both of those issues from what I’ve heard from people who have worked there under multiple head coaches.

Doesn't seem like he'd be at the top of the list for any of those jobs if they opened up today though. I think the list is longer where he'd be willing to go. I think he'd take Tennessee in a heartbeat, plus several of the solid Big 10 jobs would work. Iowa in particular- they'll want an offense guy, have some cash, and assuming Ferentz retires, it wouldn't be a big lift like taking over for a fired coach. Reading that Yahoo article, I'm guessing CAG will never want to replace a fired coach again.

He would need to turn USF into what Boise is doing to get one of those five job. Then you get a look but the Auburn and UF jobs are both very toxic. I’d advise anyone I like to avoid them unless they really straighten out the core issues at those schools.

Let’s just enjoy the now.

Here is what I told my GT fans when their AD left for Michigan State this summer. if the person either an AD or coach leaves the job in a better place than they found it and did good work and are advancing their career goals you can’t begrudge them when they take an opportunity they want. Smart people are picky about what they will take though. one day when Golesh leaves or retires I’m sure I can same the same about him unlike when Taggart jumped too soon.