If all of us take off our maize and blue colored glasses for a moment....

Qball said:

I think Jesse Minter would be a homerun hire

TrueBlueFanatic said:

...and look at the Football Program as a whole since Jim Harbaugh was hired, we would see some of the same optics others outside of Michigan fandom sees. I will reiterate what I said in another post....it is time that Michigan distances it's self from Harbaugh and his coaching family/tree. I know many on here will defend Jim until the last day, however it is tough to stomach everything that Michigan has been through over the last 4-5 years. Yes Jim won a NC for Michigan, but at what cost to the program and it's current situation. All the drama that surrounded Harbaugh over the years, plus the who sign-gate scandal and now Moore's mess. Harbaugh did not do Michigan any favors in how things went while he was here and since he has left. Now Jim is not alone in being the so center of so much turmoil, Warde certainly has played his part and the coaches and staff members who have given Michigan a black eye are as guilty as anyone, but there is a long list of dirty laundry on the field over the last 10 or so years in the Michigan Football program. Some very questionable character of some hires over these years have added up to a big mess we are seeing being played out in the media. I am not sure how Michigan or even if they should go after Jesse Minter, Jay Harbaugh, or John for that matter. I strongly believe it is time for Michigan to do a full reset within the Michigan Football program. We need to earn back some respect from the college football world. Just compare the Men's and Women's Basketball Programs, not too mention the current Hockey program and you will see a drastic difference between them and Michigan Football today.

TrueBlueFanatic said:

I agree, but he has been caught up in the Harbaugh whirlwind of crap. Do we think there would be enough separation between him and Harbaugh for him to be a "clean" hire?

marzanoj said:

I think you are wrong

Qball said:

I think Jesse Minter would be a homerun hire

TrueBlueFanatic said:

I agree, but he has been caught up in the Harbaugh whirlwind of crap. Do we think there would be enough separation between him and Harbaugh for him to be a "clean" hire?

EpiWolv said:

I don’t think Minter should be an automatic no, but I also don’t think he should be a tier 1 option partially because of this.

Jason_S said:

The answer is yes. You think he’s going to call up stallions or something?

Qball said:

I think Jesse Minter would be a homerun hire

timmieb said:

I think the OP would dislike that, because Minter would be a head coach with reasonable integrity and would very likely obtain fantastic results, leading some to give further credit to Jim that OP would seek to preclude.

Sasquatch616 said:

Greatest three year run in the history of Michigan Football 15-0 National Champions Also:

TrueBlueFanatic said:

...and look at the Football Program as a whole since Jim Harbaugh was hired, we would see some of the same optics others outside of Michigan fandom sees. I will reiterate what I said in another post....it is time that Michigan distances it's self from Harbaugh and his coaching family/tree. I know many on here will defend Jim until the last day, however it is tough to stomach everything that Michigan has been through over the last 4-5 years. Yes Jim won a NC for Michigan, but at what cost to the program and it's current situation. All the drama that surrounded Harbaugh over the years, plus the who sign-gate scandal and now Moore's mess. Harbaugh did not do Michigan any favors in how things went while he was here and since he has left. Now Jim is not alone in being the so center of so much turmoil, Warde certainly has played his part and the coaches and staff members who have given Michigan a black eye are as guilty as anyone, but there is a long list of dirty laundry on the field over the last 10 or so years in the Michigan Football program. Some very questionable character of some hires over these years have added up to a big mess we are seeing being played out in the media. I am not sure how Michigan or even if they should go after Jesse Minter, Jay Harbaugh, or John for that matter. I strongly believe it is time for Michigan to do a full reset within the Michigan Football program. We need to earn back some respect from the college football world. Just compare the Men's and Women's Basketball Programs, not too mention the current Hockey program and you will see a drastic difference between them and Michigan Football today.

KenGrantFanatic said:

Posts like this where we compare what Harbaugh did and what Sherrone did are utterly idiotic. Harbaugh caused controversy yes but it was almost always standing up for something, for example calling for players to get paid, standing up to the NCAA. Sherrone was just a selfish idiot who did something morally terrible. You can’t just say “Sherrone bad, so Harbaugh bad”

TrueBlueFanatic said:

Not at all, just looking at all the crap that has happen to Michigan Football since Harbaugh was hired. Remember you have to take your maize colored glasses off first.

TrueBlueFanatic said:

...and look at the Football Program as a whole since Jim Harbaugh was hired, we would see some of the same optics others outside of Michigan fandom sees. I will reiterate what I said in another post....it is time that Michigan distances it's self from Harbaugh and his coaching family/tree. I know many on here will defend Jim until the last day, however it is tough to stomach everything that Michigan has been through over the last 4-5 years. Yes Jim won a NC for Michigan, but at what cost to the program and it's current situation. All the drama that surrounded Harbaugh over the years, plus the who sign-gate scandal and now Moore's mess. Harbaugh did not do Michigan any favors in how things went while he was here and since he has left. Now Jim is not alone in being the so center of so much turmoil, Warde certainly has played his part and the coaches and staff members who have given Michigan a black eye are as guilty as anyone, but there is a long list of dirty laundry on the field over the last 10 or so years in the Michigan Football program. Some very questionable character of some hires over these years have added up to a big mess we are seeing being played out in the media. I am not sure how Michigan or even if they should go after Jesse Minter, Jay Harbaugh, or John for that matter. I strongly believe it is time for Michigan to do a full reset within the Michigan Football program. We need to earn back some respect from the college football world. Just compare the Men's and Women's Basketball Programs, not too mention the current Hockey program and you will see a drastic difference between them and Michigan Football today.

TrueBlueFanatic said:

...and look at the Football Program as a whole since Jim Harbaugh was hired, we would see some of the same optics others outside of Michigan fandom sees. I will reiterate what I said in another post....it is time that Michigan distances it's self from Harbaugh and his coaching family/tree. I know many on here will defend Jim until the last day, however it is tough to stomach everything that Michigan has been through over the last 4-5 years. Yes Jim won a NC for Michigan, but at what cost to the program and it's current situation. All the drama that surrounded Harbaugh over the years, plus the who sign-gate scandal and now Moore's mess. Harbaugh did not do Michigan any favors in how things went while he was here and since he has left. Now Jim is not alone in being the so center of so much turmoil, Warde certainly has played his part and the coaches and staff members who have given Michigan a black eye are as guilty as anyone, but there is a long list of dirty laundry on the field over the last 10 or so years in the Michigan Football program. Some very questionable character of some hires over these years have added up to a big mess we are seeing being played out in the media. I am not sure how Michigan or even if they should go after Jesse Minter, Jay Harbaugh, or John for that matter. I strongly believe it is time for Michigan to do a full reset within the Michigan Football program. We need to earn back some respect from the college football world. Just compare the Men's and Women's Basketball Programs, not too mention the current Hockey program and you will see a drastic difference between them and Michigan Football today.