If the next FSU coach on your Hotboard isnt

Fear The Spear said:

A RECRUITER with some type of experience or history as a program BUILDER FORGET IT. He shouldn't be hired. The president, BOT, and AD have to get this right. Money NIL coach RECRUITER and PROGRAM BUILDER.

RHT 3 said:

Norvell's personality glitches are why he cant recruit ( and his former staff was lazy as hell). NIL is overblown IMO. Most guys are gonna be offered similar money wherever they go. Can some programs overpay like Texas ? Sure. But not most. The difference between signing with Norvell or Lanning or Kirby or anybody is the HC and his ability to convince a player to come to the school. Winning tradition, position coaches, NFL success, all sorts of things go into it. But the HC has to be a salesman, a preacher, a guy that convinces a kid and their momma that FSU is better than another school. Norvell ain't got it. Never did. He's awkward, he's fidgety, he comes off as trying too hard. And after 6 years, everyone knows he's a loser. We need to move on asap.

Fear The Spear said:

A RECRUITER with some type of experience or history as a program BUILDER FORGET IT. He shouldn't be hired. The president, BOT, and AD have to get this right. Money NIL coach RECRUITER and PROGRAM BUILDER. I'm tired of this guys. I'm tired of listening and hearing FSU has to OUT COACH Boston College, Wake, Pitt & Virginia. Get out of here with that nonsense. We are going to be like Florida if we don't get this one right. Do we want a guy just to come in X & Os to scheme and win a few games, display that, then take off somewhere else? Or do we want someone who is a RECRUITER, with NIL backing that can win on the field as well? I'm just still shocked Mike Norvell can't recruit here. So, before you look at these hot young coaches winning right now. Better do a bigger deep dive of who they really are, and whether they are winning somewhere with the players they recruited. Honestly, I don't care if a guy is Belichick if he can't recruit, he's not going to sustain at the college level. He has to have some type of ties to the southeast (Texas doesn't count) and connect with highschool kids. If its someone who can't meet these 3 things," I don't want him here. Coach with a fun philosophy-scheme, RECRUITER, PROGRAM BUILDER.

Paulnvalerie said:

We have a fun, high scoring team. We built a solid OL this offseason and Hand is making headway on OL recruiting. We have young playmakers on offense that include Danzy, McCoy, Boggs, Kromah, Landon Thomas, Elijah Moore added his first catch with Duce going down. Gus is recruiting dual threat QBs that fit his system. Tony White made is success at Syracuse and Nebraska. We have little talent on D and don’t have the personnel to run a 3-3-5. Go get DJ Durkin with a history of success in the SEC and give him the NIL funds to get the players he needs via both the portal and recruiting. I absolutely believe he would have the same affect on defense that Gus is having on offense at a lot lower cost than buying out Norvell and hiring a whole new staff.

Fear The Spear said:

A RECRUITER with some type of experience or history as a program BUILDER FORGET IT. He shouldn't be hired. The president, BOT, and AD have to get this right. Money NIL coach RECRUITER and PROGRAM BUILDER. I'm tired of this guys. I'm tired of listening and hearing FSU has to OUT COACH Boston College, Wake, Pitt & Virginia. Get out of here with that nonsense. We are going to be like Florida if we don't get this one right. Do we want a guy just to come in X & Os to scheme and win a few games, display that, then take off somewhere else? Or do we want someone who is a RECRUITER, with NIL backing that can win on the field as well? I'm just still shocked Mike Norvell can't recruit here. So, before you look at these hot young coaches winning right now. Better do a bigger deep dive of who they really are, and whether they are winning somewhere with the players they recruited. Honestly, I don't care if a guy is Belichick if he can't recruit, he's not going to sustain at the college level. He has to have some type of ties to the southeast (Texas doesn't count) and connect with highschool kids. If its someone who can't meet these 3 things," I don't want him here. Coach with a fun philosophy-scheme, RECRUITER, PROGRAM BUILDER.

Mayofsu said:

Have we considered that we have the next head coach on staff already. Hear me out. Tony White moves to HC/DC. He let's one of his close guys run the day to day of the defense. Thus freeing up Tony to recruit like crazy. With his guys i belive his defense would be good. Keep Guss, he is good for 25-35 a game, and let Tony do HC things. Giving Tony a head coaching job at a "top tier" school that may go to the power 2 in the next few years, you may get a discount. 5M ish? Good options are few, and that would not be a bad staff.

caballo_blanco said:

This could possibly maybe kinda have legs if our defense wasn’t by far the worst part of the team. Why trust him with more when he can’t get it done with less?

PTCNoleDC said:

Call me crazy. But the answer is John James Fisher. Fire Norvell in November of we’re going to get rid of him, let Gus or Tony take over until seasons end. Let Jimbo go ahead and eval the roster and meet with kids who he wants so we don’t have a mass exodus. Also let jimbo take over high school recruiting and start evaluating portal. This is the best possible situation. Especially with timelines of portal and signing day. No other coach would be available to do that. Jimbo isn’t perfect but he can recruit and at the very least stabilize the program until we get into P2.

Mayofsu said:

Have we considered that we have the next head coach on staff already. Hear me out. Tony White moves to HC/DC. He let's one of his close guys run the day to day of the defense. Thus freeing up Tony to recruit like crazy. With his guys i belive his defense would be good. Keep Guss, he is good for 25-35 a game, and let Tony do HC things. Giving Tony a head coaching job at a "top tier" school that may go to the power 2 in the next few years, you may get a discount. 5M ish? Good options are few, and that would not be a bad staff.

LifeSpectator said:

Fisher had everything he could ask for at TAMU and yet he never won more than 9 games in any of his 6 seasons in College Station. His best season was the 2020 COVID year when the Aggies were given an easy SEC schedule and only lost to Alabama, then beat UNC in the Orange Bowl (UNC also lucked their way into their only appearance in the Orange Bowl with an easy schedule). Fisher needed a unicorn at QB to run his complicated offensive schemes, but he could never find another Jameis.

CFL-Nole said:

I can’t disagree strongly enough with regards to NIL. It’s the biggest differentiator for having a stacked blue chip lineup or having to build a roster on a constrained budget

PTCNoleDC said:

Everybody knows Jimbo had lost his edge and his personal life was in turmoil. He needed a break. Much like Urban at Florida, who went on to be successful at Ohio state. Jimbo looks refreshed, rested and hungry. I mean a guess we could ride with another G5 coach at be in the same spot, because no good big ten or sec head coach is leaving to coach in acc.

Ironclad Nole said:

There is zero evidence that taking a break over the last 10 years has made him a better coach. None.

o_Tarpon91 said:

it is or was staff effort problem. prior staff was lazy on the trail there was your problem norvell being quirky- LMAO

PTCNoleDC said:

There is zero evidence to support anyone will be successful that we hire. We see it everyday. At least Jimbo is capable of recruiting and winning 9-10 games a year. He did that plenty without james. That would put FSU in a much better position moving into P2

Mayofsu said:

Have we considered that we have the next head coach on staff already. Hear me out. Tony White moves to HC/DC. He let's one of his close guys run the day to day of the defense. Thus freeing up Tony to recruit like crazy. With his guys i belive his defense would be good. Keep Guss, he is good for 25-35 a game, and let Tony do HC things. Giving Tony a head coaching job at a "top tier" school that may go to the power 2 in the next few years, you may get a discount. 5M ish? Good options are few, and that would not be a bad staff.

Fear The Spear said:

A RECRUITER with some type of experience or history as a program BUILDER FORGET IT. He shouldn't be hired. The president, BOT, and AD have to get this right. Money NIL coach RECRUITER and PROGRAM BUILDER. I'm tired of this guys. I'm tired of listening and hearing FSU has to OUT COACH Boston College, Wake, Pitt & Virginia. Get out of here with that nonsense. We are going to be like Florida if we don't get this one right. Do we want a guy just to come in X & Os to scheme and win a few games, display that, then take off somewhere else? Or do we want someone who is a RECRUITER, with NIL backing that can win on the field as well? I'm just still shocked Mike Norvell can't recruit here. So, before you look at these hot young coaches winning right now. Better do a bigger deep dive of who they really are, and whether they are winning somewhere with the players they recruited. Honestly, I don't care if a guy is Belichick if he can't recruit, he's not going to sustain at the college level. He has to have some type of ties to the southeast (Texas doesn't count) and connect with highschool kids. If its someone who can't meet these 3 things," I don't want him here. Coach with a fun philosophy-scheme, RECRUITER, PROGRAM BUILDER.

PTCNoleDC said:

Call me crazy. But the answer is John James Fisher. Fire Norvell in November of we’re going to get rid of him, let Gus or Tony take over until seasons end. Let Jimbo go ahead and eval the roster and meet with kids who he wants so we don’t have a mass exodus. Also let jimbo take over high school recruiting and start evaluating portal. This is the best possible situation. Especially with timelines of portal and signing day. No other coach would be available to do that. Jimbo isn’t perfect but he can recruit and at the very least stabilize the program until we get into P2.