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Is Georgia Going to Be Heupel’s Fulmer - Florida?

CJH has shown over 4 years he can do just about anything except come close to staying in a game with Georgia. Florida and Bama still have his no# at their home stadium, but GA games have really been one sided. Spurrier use to own Fulmer because Chavis was so easy to scheme against. Bank’s has been horrible, but the offense, not much better. DDVOL
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VolGayren’s Worst Nightmare

Sep 11, 12:45 PM

I mean, the only years we remotely had the same amount of talent as them are ‘22 and ‘24. Both games were relatively close with ‘22 being a slop fest in the rain, which is pretty much the worst weather that team could have asked for. If we lay an egg on Saturday though, the answer is yes. We have the talent to win this game.
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CasWalker

Sep 11, 12:47 PM

While it has narrowed some, the talent gap between UGA and UT is a real thing. Fulmer had talent comparable to UF, Heupel hasn't had that luxury...
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GoVols14

Sep 11, 12:56 PM

DDVOL said:
CJH has shown over 4 years he can do just about anything except come close to staying in a game with Georgia. Florida and Bama still have his no# at their home stadium, but GA games have really been one sided. Spurrier use to own Fulmer because Chavis was so easy to scheme against. Bank’s has been horrible, but the offense, not much better. DDVOL
He stayed in the game with Georgia last year until late in the 4th quarter.
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AwlVawl

Sep 11, 12:58 PM

Not a fair comparison Fulmer had equal to perhaps superior talent than spurrier
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MDVol

Sep 11, 12:59 PM

I would argue UT's talent "Gap" if any to Florida was MUCH smaller than what UT's has been to Georgia. Last year, I would say we dominated them for 3 quarters of football. It was the 4th that lost the game for us.
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VolSquatch

Sep 11, 1:02 PM

Georgia is just good right now. They won't always be this good. Not really much more to it than that.
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Volanooga45

Sep 11, 1:06 PM

VolGayren’s Worst Nightmare said:
I mean, the only years we remotely had the same amount of talent as them are ‘22 and ‘24. Both games were relatively close with ‘22 being a slop fest in the rain, which is pretty much the worst weather that team could have asked for. If we lay an egg on Saturday though, the answer is yes. We have the talent to win this game.
We did not have 40% of the talent UGA has in 2022. We were an insane offense who got killed on both sides of the line that day. If you want to look at last year, we probably only have about 70% of the talent that they have. The gap is closing, but there is still a gap. It's impressive how many wins that Heupel has over more talented teams (per 247 Talent Composite) 2022 Florida 2022 at LSU 2022 Bama 2022 Clemson 2023 A&M 2024 Florida 2024 Bama 2024 at Oklahoma
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VirginiaBeachVol

Sep 11, 1:16 PM

OP, we haven’t played well against GA and that concerns me. They also have been much deeper than us and a lot more talented to this point. Does losing to a considerably more talented team really mean the have your #? I don’t think so. That certainly wasn’t the case when Fulmer was losing to FLA. Both teams were extremely talented.
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WallandVol

Sep 11, 1:28 PM

Fulmer beat Florida more than any other SEC coach in the 1990s. Just saying.
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NashVol615

Sep 11, 1:38 PM

VolGayren’s Worst Nightmare said:
I mean, the only years we remotely had the same amount of talent as them are ‘22 and ‘24. Both games were relatively close with ‘22 being a slop fest in the rain, which is pretty much the worst weather that team could have asked for. If we lay an egg on Saturday though, the answer is yes. We have the talent to win this game.
AwlVawl said:
Not a fair comparison Fulmer had equal to perhaps superior talent than spurrier
MDVol said:
I would argue UT's talent "Gap" if any to Florida was MUCH smaller than what UT's has been to Georgia. Last year, I would say we dominated them for 3 quarters of football. It was the 4th that lost the game for us.
C’mon guys whose job is it to accumulate talent on the roster… Josh Heupel! One of the issues is it’s taken until year 5 to have a legit high school recruiting class. We are making progress, this 2026 year is great, but really the expectation most years should be to have a top 10 class. Or the opposite is go big in the portal, which our staff has been somewhat reluctant to do.
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GoVols14

Sep 11, 1:39 PM

NashVol615 said:
C’mon guys whose job is it to accumulate talent on the roster… Josh Heupel! One of the issues is it’s taken until year 5 to have a legit high school recruiting class. We are making progress, this 2026 year is great, but really the expectation most years should be to have a top 10 class. Or the opposite is go big in the portal, which our staff has been somewhat reluctant to do.
Our transfer portal recruiting has been excellent.
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STAND

Sep 11, 1:40 PM

If Heupel had all the talent on Fulmer's teams over the last four seasons, those games would have been much different.
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NashVol98

Sep 11, 1:52 PM

AwlVawl said:
Not a fair comparison Fulmer had equal to perhaps superior talent than spurrier
Exactly. The talent gap between us and UGA has been wide since Heupel got here. You could say the same thing about almost any other team in the country when comparing them to UGA. That is why they have won two natty’s.
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WESATTY

Sep 11, 2:03 PM

DDVOL said:
CJH has shown over 4 years he can do just about anything except come close to staying in a game with Georgia. Florida and Bama still have his no# at their home stadium, but GA games have really been one sided. Spurrier use to own Fulmer because Chavis was so easy to scheme against. Bank’s has been horrible, but the offense, not much better. DDVOL
apparently every DC in college ball had the same problem when it came to Spurrier around that time. The exception being when the refs let FSU get hits on the UF qb over and over and over that should have drawn flags even back then. In the rematch it wasn’t allowed and UF lit them up.
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SuperVol

Sep 11, 2:06 PM

Georgia football has lost 2 conference regular season games in the last 4 seasons - both last year — they have lost 2 Sec Champ games — 4 losses in total with 2 sec titles wins - they appeared in 7 of tha last 8 sec title games — Tennessee v UGA in this era is nothing like Tennessee v Fl during the Fulmer era gbo
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RDBIPB

Sep 11, 2:12 PM

No because UGA has superior talent across the board and that was not true of Florida and UT in the Fulmer era. IF Heupel signs the #1 and 2 classes for 4 straight years and still loses to Georgia, then YES.
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Dr. Curmudgeon 2.0

Sep 11, 2:22 PM

DDVOL said:
CJH has shown over 4 years he can do just about anything except come close to staying in a game with Georgia. Florida and Bama still have his no# at their home stadium, but GA games have really been one sided. Spurrier use to own Fulmer because Chavis was so easy to scheme against. Bank’s has been horrible, but the offense, not much better. DDVOL
Kirby owns him right now, i am hoping to end the streak Saturday.
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Loyalvol4life

Sep 11, 2:24 PM

DDVOL said:
CJH has shown over 4 years he can do just about anything except come close to staying in a game with Georgia. Florida and Bama still have his no# at their home stadium, but GA games have really been one sided. Spurrier use to own Fulmer because Chavis was so easy to scheme against. Bank’s has been horrible, but the offense, not much better. DDVOL
Don't act like we're failing where others are succeeding when it comes to beating GA! CJH has single handedly made TN relevant again...get behind him!
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MDVol

Sep 11, 2:30 PM

NashVol615 said:
C’mon guys whose job is it to accumulate talent on the roster… Josh Heupel! One of the issues is it’s taken until year 5 to have a legit high school recruiting class. We are making progress, this 2026 year is great, but really the expectation most years should be to have a top 10 class. Or the opposite is go big in the portal, which our staff has been somewhat reluctant to do.
My friend, the recruiting landscape could not be anymore different from the late 90s to today. CJH has done an incredible (understatement) job at getting talent to a program that 5 years ago was near the bottom of college football talent and record.
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Steelevol

Sep 11, 2:33 PM

VolGayren’s Worst Nightmare said:
I mean, the only years we remotely had the same amount of talent as them are ‘22 and ‘24. Both games were relatively close with ‘22 being a slop fest in the rain, which is pretty much the worst weather that team could have asked for. If we lay an egg on Saturday though, the answer is yes. We have the talent to win this game.
Talent difference for many of those games was a real thing. The other problem in my opinion where Florida had a significant advantage was Florida’s offense or SS vs our defense Chavis. Chavis was excellent against the run game but as soon as you put him against a top notch passing attack we were done. Really the only DC at that time that could really match SS was Bill Oliver at Bama .
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AtlantaVol

Sep 11, 2:35 PM

DDVOL said:
CJH has shown over 4 years he can do just about anything except come close to staying in a game with Georgia. Florida and Bama still have his no# at their home stadium, but GA games have really been one sided. Spurrier use to own Fulmer because Chavis was so easy to scheme against. Bank’s has been horrible, but the offense, not much better. DDVOL
Stop the silliness. UGA has recruited as much or more pure talent in the last 10 years than anyone. OSU and Bammer would be close to them but they are putting multiple players into high round NFL Draft picks yearly. They then replace those starters with Top 100 recruits waiting in the wings. It is very very hard to beat that kind of talent along with an elite S&C Program and Coaching Staff. In the SEC UF, USCe, All Barn, KY, BLM University, Texas, etc isn't beating them. Only Ole Miss last year and Bammer have been able to beat them. So let's stop with the Heupel jinxed or doing something wrong with UGA because IF UGA is dialed in then it will be very hard for UT to beat them. They have to have some turnovers and we have to play perfect.
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AtlantaVol

Sep 11, 2:37 PM

VirginiaBeachVol said:
OP, we haven’t played well against GA and that concerns me. They also have been much deeper than us and a lot more talented to this point. Does losing to a considerably more talented team really mean the have your #? I don’t think so. That certainly wasn’t the case when Fulmer was losing to FLA. Both teams were extremely talented.
Well it is hard to "play well" when the UGA OL and DL is just full of high draft NFL picks and they dominate both LOS.
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SuperVol

Sep 11, 2:39 PM

Dr. Curmudgeon 2.0 said:
Kirby owns him right now, i am hoping to end the streak Saturday.
Kirby owns the entire conference the last 4 years and is right there with Bama since Kirby's arrival in 2016- They have won 97 football games the last 8 completed seasons (Avg 12 wins)- during that 8 year period they lost 7 regular season SEC games, appeared in every sec cg minus 2020, appeared in 3 natty games - won 2 nattys gbo
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AtlantaVol

Sep 11, 2:39 PM

WallandVol said:
Fulmer beat Florida more than any other SEC coach in the 1990s. Just saying.
Really??? I think Fulmer only won against UF once in the 1990's. So are you saying no other SEC HC beat UF more than once in a decade of the 90's? You may be right but find that hard to believe.

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