Jackson Arnold still setting records in Norman..

“Aarrggghh those darn refs!!!” — 75% of this board

Sackson Arnold!

JA wasn't the reason we lost. Dunno why the trolls on this forum have such a hard-on for him.

FelixWDE89 said:

JA wasn't the reason we lost. Dunno why the trolls on this forum have such a hard-on for him.

You are right but he was still part of the multiple reasons.

Sure, but I think other issues have a higher priority. To me JA showed we can compete for a playoff spot with him as the QB.

He’s always going to have an issue with sacks. That’s just facts. He holds the ball too long, not trusting what he’s seeing, and any time things aren’t perfect his answer is tuck it and run, which will end up with lots of 2/3 yard loss sacks It’s just a matter of if he can overcome this with his positive traits

FelixWDE89 said:

Sure, but I think other issues have a higher priority. To me JA showed we can compete for a playoff spot with him as the QB.

I’d like to agree with you, but his confidence in himself just doesn’t seem to be there.

Haskinexperiment said:

He’s always going to have an issue with sacks. That’s just facts. He holds the ball too long, not trusting what he’s seeing, and any time things aren’t perfect his answer is tuck it and run, which will end up with lots of 2/3 yard loss sacks It’s just a matter of if he can overcome this with his positive traits

Yes. Still and always better than interceptions. It just is.

bygmomma said:

I’d like to agree with you, but his confidence in himself just doesn’t seem to be there.

No, he’s right. Most playoff teams commit 8+ penalties every game, allow other schools to set records for sacks on a game, can’t kick FGs, regularly over/underthrow open WRs, and are generally abysmal in all aspects of STs. We’re 100% going to compete for a playoff spot.

Jekel019 said:

No, he’s right. Most playoff teams commit 8+ penalties every game, allow other schools to set records for sacks on a game, can’t kick FGs, regularly over/underthrow open WRs, and are generally abysmal in all aspects of STs. We’re 100% going to compete for a playoff spot.

Lol, have you looked at the AP rankings? You're troll is actually correct.

FelixWDE89 said:

JA wasn't the reason we lost. Dunno why the trolls on this forum have such a hard-on for him.

Because half this board would rather our qb throw an interception in double coverage than take a 2 yard loss. But then they'd complain about the int and claim he should have tucked it. Moral of the story, half this board will always find something to complain about and someone on the team to drag through the mud.

FelixWDE89 said:

Lol, have you looked at the AP rankings? You're troll is actually correct.

Huh, was unaware the week 5 AP poll determined the Playoffs. My mistake! (Come back and let me know how the actual 12 playoff teams did last year in these categories)

Bringtherain said:

Because half this board would rather our qb throw an interception in double coverage than take a 2 yard loss. But then they'd complain about the int and claim he should have tucked it. Moral of the story, half this board will always find something to complain about and someone on the team to drag through the mud.

What are we even talking about at this point? The Oklahoma defense dropped two would be picks. Otherwise Arnold would have taken all those unnecessary sacks AND thrown 2 interceptions. Also, are we really mystified as to why folks are upset? We’ve been below .500 each of the last 4 years. Really not hard to find things to be upset by with the product on the field. Seems to me the more logical explanation is that half the board here comes in and sunshine pumps the first half of the season despite obvious signs of what’s coming, then goes quiet the 2nd half, then switches into “this is actually going to be our year” come February.

FelixWDE89 said:

Yes. Still and always better than interceptions. It just is.

Because someone told you interceptions are bad? Just because Peyton Thorne couldn’t overcome interceptions doesn’t make them awful. If you are a QB worth a da** you are going to trust what you are seeing, push the ball down the field in tight windows, and have an interception or two occasionally. But you are going to make up for an interception or two because you get an extra touchdown or two a game that the mediocre QB won’t get. But yes, if you have already come to the conclusion that Jackson Arnold is a mediocre at best QB, and he can’t be a special QB with his arm, you are correct interceptions are terrible

Jekel019 said:

“Aarrggghh those darn refs!!!” — 75% of this board

Listen you dumbarse and dumbarses….the refs played a direct roll in Auburn losing this game. It was all over the place after the game…..TV, social media, etc…. Even after the atrocious OL play and JA holding the ball, AU still should have won. To anyone that says otherwise has an agenda to dislike Hugh, etc…..

Jekel019 said:

What are we even talking about at this point? The Oklahoma defense dropped two would be picks. Otherwise Arnold would have taken all those unnecessary sacks AND thrown 2 interceptions. Also, are we really mystified as to why folks are upset? We’ve been below .500 each of the last 4 years. Really not hard to find things to be upset by with the product on the field. Seems to me the more logical explanation is that half the board here comes in and sunshine pumps the first half of the season despite obvious signs of what’s coming, then goes quiet the 2nd half, then switches into “this is actually going to be our year” come February.

Cam was closer to catching the overthrown td than OU was to coming down with an int FYI. Anyways, back to what I was ACTUALLY talking about, this board had meltdowns of epic proportions from thorne throwing ill-advised passes into tight coverages leading to ints, which in turn cost us several games. You honestly expect me to believe this board would be happier with multiple careless interceptions as opposed to taking a 2 yard loss from tucking the ball when there's nothing open? Gonna have to step up your gaslighting big time if you expect me to believe that bs.

FelixWDE89 said:

JA wasn't the reason we lost. Dunno why the trolls on this forum have such a hard-on for him.

He wasn’t the reason we lost? If he could have just hit CC in stride while he was running wide open, which any average SEC QB can do, we win the game and CC walks out with 250 receiving yards and 4 touchdowns. His awareness is always terrible which led to multiple sacks not on the OL.

Arnold absolutely held the ball to long a lot of the game. A lot of that is him not trusting it and panicking. But he did drop his nuts on the 4th quarter drive that led up to a go ahead TD. He also didn’t have any fumbles and getting hit as much as he did I was impressed. He’s not going to win the heisman or a natty this year but I think we can win some games with him if we don’t abandon the run game with our actual RBs. That offensive script last night seemed very auburn Bo nix ish. Abandoning the run game in a game that’s still at hand is never a good formula unless you have have a heisman caliber QB

Bringtherain said:

Cam was closer to catching the overthrown td than OU was to coming down with an int FYI. Anyways, back to what I was ACTUALLY talking about, this board had meltdowns of epic proportions from thorne throwing ill-advised passes into tight coverages leading to ints, which in turn cost us several games. You honestly expect me to believe this board would be happier with multiple careless interceptions as opposed to taking a 2 yard loss from tucking the ball when there's nothing open? Gonna have to step up your gaslighting big time if you expect me to believe that bs.

Your strategy in every discussion is to ignore the point, completely mischaracterize what the other person is saying, and then throw out some nonsensical millennial vernacular to continue deflecting. No one at any point has said anything about preferring goofy interceptions over a 2 yard loss. But there are QBs who know when to vacate the pocket earlier and/or throw it away. There’s also those who understand the value of WRs like Coleman and understand you have to throw it up and let them make a play if in 1-on-1 situations. The most troubling part of your argument is you seem to imply interception or 2 yard loss are the only options. Also, I have absolutely no idea where your point about Coleman came from. The two dropped INTs came from throws to Singleton and Howard. Both throws hit the defender in the hands before they dropped it.

Haskinexperiment said:

He’s always going to have an issue with sacks. That’s just facts. He holds the ball too long, not trusting what he’s seeing, and any time things aren’t perfect his answer is tuck it and run, which will end up with lots of 2/3 yard loss sacks It’s just a matter of if he can overcome this with his positive traits

That's the reason nobody else pursued him in tbe portal. AU payed him to take a ton of sacks this year, hell even ball st had 4 sacks on him.

Jekel019 said:

Your strategy in every discussion is to ignore the point, completely mischaracterize what the other person is saying, and then throw out some nonsensical millennial vernacular to continue deflecting. No one at any point has said anything about preferring goofy interceptions over a 2 yard loss. But there are QBs who know when to vacate the pocket earlier and/or throw it away. There’s also those who understand the value of WRs like Coleman and understand you have to throw it up and let them make a play if in 1-on-1 situations. The most troubling part of your argument is you seem to imply interception or 2 yard loss are the only options. Also, I have absolutely no idea where your point about Coleman came from. The two dropped INTs came from throws to Singleton and Howard. Both throws hit the defender in the hands before they dropped it.

Thank you for proving you lack even the slightest modicum of reading comprehension. I didn't say anything about Cam having anything to do with the near interceptions, I claimed he was closer to coming down with a diving catch in the end zone on an overthrow than OU was to coming down with any of the interceptions (one of which was due to Howard tipping it and NOT Arnold's fault btw.) Thanks again for proving your amazing lack of reading comprehension, maybe next time save the word salad for something you can actually comprehend. One last saved round, Arnold threw the one on one to Coleman several times, so weird flex to act like he never did.

Jekel019 said:

“Aarrggghh those darn refs!!!” — 75% of this board

lol, your blind

Haskinexperiment said:

Because someone told you interceptions are bad? Just because Peyton Thorne couldn’t overcome interceptions doesn’t make them awful. If you are a QB worth a da** you are going to trust what you are seeing, push the ball down the field in tight windows, and have an interception or two occasionally. But you are going to make up for an interception or two because you get an extra touchdown or two a game that the mediocre QB won’t get. But yes, if you have already come to the conclusion that Jackson Arnold is a mediocre at best QB, and he can’t be a special QB with his arm, you are correct interceptions are terrible

Lol, what? Yeah dude, interceptions are bad. Much worse than sacks; you can still get a first down after a sack. I get it, you want JA to gamble more. So do I, but not as much as you apparently. I also think we can be more effective in our play calling and play design.

Autigers1 said:

He wasn’t the reason we lost? If he could have just hit CC in stride while he was running wide open, which any average SEC QB can do, we win the game and CC walks out with 250 receiving yards and 4 touchdowns. His awareness is always terrible which led to multiple sacks not on the OL.

You make it sound so simple, but even NFL QB's only average a ~65% completion percentage. JA led the team to a lead on a scoring drive with 7 minutes left in the game. He just couldn't do it again after we let OU score. I'm done talking about this. JA doesn't throw INTs, he doesn't fumble and he's a good QB. We can compete for a playoff spot this year with that. Live with it.