Klubnik 2024 vs Klubnik in first two games

The recipe is clear, blitz him, he either sprints into trouble, makes an inaccurate throw or dumps it to a checkdown. The only good throw he's made under pressure that i can think of is the post route to Wesco for a TD when he had a rusher stepping right into his face. Maybe there are others, but that's all that comes to mind at this time.

ChicagoTiger85 said:

This is pretty astounding, but also is for the folks who want to say Klubnik can’t be good: “After games against one of the best (LSU) and worst (Troy) defenses on the schedule, Klubnik's stats are down across the board. He's getting blitzed constantly, he's providing no threat with his legs, and Clemson's passing success rate has plummeted from 37th to 105th. Either that changes now, or Clemson's 2025 goals start to fall apart. A loss Saturday would almost clinch that the Tigers have to win out to reach the College Football Playoff.”

I'll say it. Klubnik has never been good against good. All he's got in his defense of being good is stats against mid or less teams. People have to look to find way to call him good b/c it doesn't show up in the win column against real good teams. Last year we heard from those like you, he doesn't have talent around him. Now it's stuff like this. If he wanted to be regarded as good he should have come out and played good against LSU, much less Troy. And he should have played good last year against the good teams. Again: 3 points against UofGA, no meaning points scored against UoL, lost to the ShameCocks at home only scoring 14. All the while struggling to beat mid teams aka Pitt. You brought this on yourself. And I think Clemson beats GT tomorrow without him being that good. It might look like TX that so many hold dearly, but when you watch the game he's late on throws, runs before he should and doesn't see the open guy. But it's 50% of your argument with stats being the rest...

tigerrecon said:

I'll say it. Klubnik has never been good against good. All he's got in his defense of being good is stats against mid or less teams. People have to look to find way to call him good b/c it doesn't show up in the win column against real good teams. Last year we heard from those like you, he doesn't have talent around him. Now it's stuff like this. If he wanted to be regarded as good he should have come out and played good against LSU, much less Troy. And he should have played good last year against the good teams. Again: 3 points against UofGA, no meaning points scored against UoL, lost to the ShameCocks at home only scoring 14. All the while struggling to beat mid teams aka Pitt. You brought this on yourself. And I think Clemson beats GT tomorrow without him being that good. It might look like TX that so many hold dearly, but when you watch the game he's late on throws, runs before he should and doesn't see the open guy. But it's 50% of your argument with stats being the rest...

Who brought what on himself?

Howard's Jock said:

Who brought what on himself?

My response to the OP...

tigerrecon said:

My response to the OP...

I must have missed something. Not unusual.

TigerinLA said:

The recipe is clear, blitz him, he either sprints into trouble, makes an inaccurate throw or dumps it to a checkdown. The only good throw he's made under pressure that i can think of is the post route to Wesco for a TD when he had a rusher stepping right into his face. Maybe there are others, but that's all that comes to mind at this time.

Usually, blitzing a 3rd year starting QB is a surefire way to get carved up. Pretty concerning

TigerinLA said:

The recipe is clear, blitz him, he either sprints into trouble, makes an inaccurate throw or dumps it to a checkdown. The only good throw he's made under pressure that i can think of is the post route to Wesco for a TD when he had a rusher stepping right into his face. Maybe there are others, but that's all that comes to mind at this time.

He absolutely DOES NOT dump it to a check down .

tigerrecon said:

I'll say it. Klubnik has never been good against good. All he's got in his defense of being good is stats against mid or less teams. People have to look to find way to call him good b/c it doesn't show up in the win column against real good teams. Last year we heard from those like you, he doesn't have talent around him. Now it's stuff like this. If he wanted to be regarded as good he should have come out and played good against LSU, much less Troy. And he should have played good last year against the good teams. Again: 3 points against UofGA, no meaning points scored against UoL, lost to the ShameCocks at home only scoring 14. All the while struggling to beat mid teams aka Pitt. You brought this on yourself. And I think Clemson beats GT tomorrow without him being that good. It might look like TX that so many hold dearly, but when you watch the game he's late on throws, runs before he should and doesn't see the open guy. But it's 50% of your argument with stats being the rest...

Yep, he really is not a very good QB. 100% of the preseason praise came from the review of the Texas game.

tigerrecon said:

I'll say it. Klubnik has never been good against good. All he's got in his defense of being good is stats against mid or less teams. People have to look to find way to call him good b/c it doesn't show up in the win column against real good teams. Last year we heard from those like you, he doesn't have talent around him. Now it's stuff like this. If he wanted to be regarded as good he should have come out and played good against LSU, much less Troy. And he should have played good last year against the good teams. Again: 3 points against UofGA, no meaning points scored against UoL, lost to the ShameCocks at home only scoring 14. All the while struggling to beat mid teams aka Pitt. You brought this on yourself. And I think Clemson beats GT tomorrow without him being that good. It might look like TX that so many hold dearly, but when you watch the game he's late on throws, runs before he should and doesn't see the open guy. But it's 50% of your argument with stats being the rest...

This isn't that hard to disprove, and I think I've already done it before in response to you, in particular. Without having to go back through the stats, his highest QBR games have come in these games: 2024: App NCSU FSU Wake Citadel UofSC Texas Lowest in 2024 were: UGa Stanford UVa UofL Pitt SMU In 2023, his best games were against FSU, FAU, Syracuse, GT, and UNC, with the worst being Duke, SC, ND, and Charleston Southern. There's just not that close of a correlation between his worst QBR games and the quality of the team.

Trading Tiger said:

Yep, he really is not a very good QB. 100% of the preseason praise came from the review of the Texas game.

He didn't get over 3600 yards passing and 36 TDs in that game.

Winstonw101 said:

He absolutely DOES NOT dump it to a check down .

Sorry….throws it away.

ChicagoTiger85 said:

He didn't get over 3600 yards passing and 36 TDs in that game.

LOL...He didn't get it in the Georgia game, or the Louisville game, or the USuCk game either. The most impressive thing about those numbers is that he did that in basically just 11 games.

Trading Tiger said:

LOL...He didn't get it in the Georgia game, or the Louisville game, or the USuCk game either. The most impressive thing about those numbers is that he did that in basically just 11 games.

Wrong again. Way too much cherry picking to do some hating.

Trading Tiger said:

LOL...He didn't get it in the Georgia game, or the Louisville game, or the USuCk game either. The most impressive thing about those numbers is that he did that in basically just 11 games.

Dju>klubdik!!!!!

If Klubnik was going to lead us anywhere we would've seen it the moment he stepped on the field as the Starting QB, just like Watson and Lawrence.

Howard's Jock said:

Dju>klubdik!!!!!

Oh snap, that's better than my old Krapnik nickname. Remember Big Stinko?? Yeah, good times.

drnuckles6 said:

If Klubnik was going to lead us anywhere we would've seen it the moment he stepped on the field as the Starting QB, just like Watson and Lawrence.

So guys like Joe Burrow just don't exist anymore? Nobody thought that guy was going anywhere his first few years in college. And that's just the most recent example so don't try to say some stupid crap like "he's the only one", I'll stop that before it even starts.

ChicagoTiger85 said:

Wrong again. Way too much cherry picking to do some hating.

Prove it smart guy

Development…..other than the all world dudes….and even then to some extent, when have we developed a serviceable QB. Is it the system we ask them to run? Even mid level teams like Troy and the Citadel and Duke carve us up. Why can we not do that?

bcs summa said:

Development…..other than the all world dudes….and even then to some extent, when have we developed a serviceable QB. Is it the system we ask them to run? Even mid level teams like Troy and the Citadel and Duke carve us up. Why can we not do that?

Well, obviously Klubnik majorly improved from 2023 to 2024. It seems like a lot of people want to pretend that never happened. Heck, Watson was much better when he left Clemson than when he got here. DJU was a whole lot better in 2022 than in 2021. Tajh Boyd was much better when he left than when he got to Clemson.

tigerrecon said:

I'll say it. Klubnik has never been good against good. All he's got in his defense of being good is stats against mid or less teams. People have to look to find way to call him good b/c it doesn't show up in the win column against real good teams. Last year we heard from those like you, he doesn't have talent around him. Now it's stuff like this. If he wanted to be regarded as good he should have come out and played good against LSU, much less Troy. And he should have played good last year against the good teams. Again: 3 points against UofGA, no meaning points scored against UoL, lost to the ShameCocks at home only scoring 14. All the while struggling to beat mid teams aka Pitt. You brought this on yourself. And I think Clemson beats GT tomorrow without him being that good. It might look like TX that so many hold dearly, but when you watch the game he's late on throws, runs before he should and doesn't see the open guy. But it's 50% of your argument with stats being the rest...

Eh, the Pitt loss we had no running game and an OL of Miller-Howard-Linthicum-Sewell-Parks

Trading Tiger said:

So guys like Joe Burrow just don't exist anymore? Nobody thought that guy was going anywhere his first few years in college. And that's just the most recent example so don't try to say some stupid crap like "he's the only one", I'll stop that before it even starts.

What's the point of this? Yes players develop. Klubnik obviously hasn't, DEFINITELY not to the point where he can sniff Joe Burrow's jock cup. Clemson as a football program isn't close to LSU 2019 either holistically.

drnuckles6 said:

What's the point of this? Yes players develop. Klubnik obviously hasn't, DEFINITELY not to the point where he can sniff Joe Burrow's jock cup. Clemson as a football program isn't close to LSU 2019 either holistically.

Dude??? Go back and read your post, then read my reply again, and then delete this post because that's just silly.

TigerinLA said:

The recipe is clear, blitz him, he either sprints into trouble, makes an inaccurate throw or dumps it to a checkdown. The only good throw he's made under pressure that i can think of is the post route to Wesco for a TD when he had a rusher stepping right into his face. Maybe there are others, but that's all that comes to mind at this time.

Agree with all except he doesn’t dump to a check down He’s seeing the field so poorly this year he’s even missing the check down