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RunHamburgerOct 27, 11:29 AM

Lane Kiffin Discussion

This has and will continue to be talked to death, but when it comes to Lane I have a few thoughts. If Lane is hired I think he will do well to some degree but I’m not convinced he will be as successful as a lot of people on the board seem to think. Until this very weekend the guy had never beat a ranked team on the road. Considering the portal talent he’s accumulated in Oxford (thanks in part to AT), I think the argument “look what he’s done at Ole Miss, imagine what he could do at LSU” has some merit, but I don’t think it’s quite that simple. For instance, last year he came into DV with a much more talented team and got beat. That’s been the rule, not the exception for Lanes teams. Yes they’re Ole Miss and we’re LSU, but it’s disingenuous to say his teams haven’t been talented due to their portal work. One may respond with: “Ok, well exactly he’s made Ole Miss talented, that’s why I want him here bc he’s good at building talent!” But I’d say the problem is succeeding at Ole Miss takes a completely different formula than LSU. Saban has given the footprint for success at LSU: lock down in-state recruiting. Lane is just not the maniacal recruiter that Saban was nor is he on the same level as Les or O were in that respect. Lastly, I’ll say I think we could do worse certainly and he’s a great player caller. Hes also liked by most in the media- a stark contrast to BK. That would be refreshing. TLDR: I’m just not convinced he’s worth the massive financial investment it would take to bring him in. Follow the Saban footprint, not the Ole Miss footprint.
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LilWeezyana

Oct 27, 11:33 AM

Totally agree with what was said above about there at least being valid questions. Then you need to really sit down and ask whether we are ready to throw a 10 year 130 Million dollar contract at anyone
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Snack_Guy

Oct 27, 11:34 AM

LilWeezyana said:
Totally agree with what was said above about there at least being valid questions. Then you need to really sit down and ask whether we are ready to throw a 10 year 130 Million dollar contract at anyone
I think we just answered that question. That kind of contract is reserved for Nick Saban and that list ends about there.
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C$Case

Oct 27, 11:35 AM

How many coaches has Ole Miss had that made them relevant in the national discussion? What Lane has done there is remarkable.
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LilWeezyana

Oct 27, 11:36 AM

Snack_Guy said:
I think we just answered that question. That kind of contract is reserved for Nick Saban and that list ends about there.
The issue is that with the competition between Ole Miss, Florida and LSU, that is the ballpark kiffin will demand
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Tigerocker

Oct 27, 11:36 AM

Does LSU want or even more important afford to get in a money battle with UF / OM for Kiffin with Sexton driving the train ? He's already got him close to $15M and when done by the end of season he will have it close to $20M a year.
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RunHamburger

Oct 27, 11:40 AM

C$Case said:
How many coaches has Ole Miss had that made them relevant in the national discussion? What Lane has done there is remarkable.
I agree he’s done great there. But how translatable is his approach from Ole Miss to LSU? A whole different recipe to success. And maybe he can do it here. But his contract would dwarf Brian Kelly’s. Are we so sure his success at OM is translatable to LSU and can be raised even further to win championships? It’s a massive financial risk. So big that if it doesn’t work it could literally set the program back decade(s).
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C$Case

Oct 27, 11:44 AM

RunHamburger said:
I agree he’s done great there. But how translatable is his approach from Ole Miss to LSU? A whole different recipe to success. And maybe he can do it here. But his contract would dwarf Brian Kelly’s. Are we so sure his success at OM is translatable to LSU and can be raised even further to win championships? It’s a massive financial risk. So big that if it doesn’t work it could literally set the program back decade(s).
I think Lane gets why LSU is LSU. He is offensively what LSU desperately needs with the dudes the state produces. If he can get the DC right then there's no reason they wouldn't win 10 games a year
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JimineyCricket7

Oct 27, 11:46 AM

RunHamburger said:
I agree he’s done great there. But how translatable is his approach from Ole Miss to LSU? A whole different recipe to success. And maybe he can do it here. But his contract would dwarf Brian Kelly’s. Are we so sure his success at OM is translatable to LSU and can be raised even further to win championships? It’s a massive financial risk. So big that if it doesn’t work it could literally set the program back decade(s).
I won’t speak too much on Lane the coach as I’ve shared that multiple times but the contract issue is one that I think is very fair. If you are a person who is ready to run Scott Woodward out of town for giving Brian Kelly a massive contract, understand that it’ll be a contract bigger than that to hire Lane. Maybe it works out and Lane wins here, assuming he gets the job. Just something to consider from a financial perspective.
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RunHamburger

Oct 27, 12:00 PM

C$Case said:
I think Lane gets why LSU is LSU. He is offensively what LSU desperately needs with the dudes the state produces. If he can get the DC right then there's no reason they wouldn't win 10 games a year
That’s fair, but again- is that worth $13-15m a year? Weren’t most LSU fans wanting Les Miles fired years before he actually was for “only” winning 10 games a season? I wasn’t in that number, but I was in the minority.
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JimineyCricket7

Oct 27, 12:02 PM

C$Case said:
I think Lane gets why LSU is LSU. He is offensively what LSU desperately needs with the dudes the state produces. If he can get the DC right then there's no reason they wouldn't win 10 games a year
If you fired Brian Kelly and paid him that sum of money to run him off, you’re hiring that next guy to win titles, not ten games. Given the amount of money LSU is about to spend on all of this transition, 10 games in the regular season should be the floor.
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C$Case

Oct 27, 12:04 PM

JimineyCricket7 said:
If you fired Brian Kelly and paid him that sum of money to run him off, you’re hiring that next guy to win titles, not ten games. Given the amount of money LSU is about to spend on all of this transition, 10 games in the regular season should be the floor.
100%. I'm just saying that would be guaranteed every year with Lane and good DC
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LilWeezyana

Oct 27, 12:05 PM

I don’t like the idea that you have a number 1 call and you make them say no before you move on. What is Lane’s vision for LSU, what is he going to commit to, does he want to stick more portal heavy or really dive into high school, is he going to network with donors, what does the GM role look like, what is his idea for Defensive coordinator and staff retention, how do you navigate rev sharing and roster retention. Actually interview a list of top candidates and see who has the best vision for this program, don’t just anoint someone
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1825TULANE

Oct 27, 12:09 PM

JimineyCricket7 said:
If you fired Brian Kelly and paid him that sum of money to run him off, you’re hiring that next guy to win titles, not ten games. Given the amount of money LSU is about to spend on all of this transition, 10 games in the regular season should be the floor.
I don’t think lane will come because UF is way too desperate right now. If lane goes deep into the playoffs would we be willing to wait that long for him? I think we’ll try for lane but I doubt he comes.
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Hokomojo

Oct 27, 12:39 PM

He’s won 10 games twice at ole Miss in the regular season playing an almost identical schedule to us. There are flaws, but every coach has them.
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TigerUppercut

Oct 27, 12:42 PM

Lane will always give you a fun team that goes 10-3 with inexplicable losses and terrible defense. He will not win a title, and nothing about any of his stops has shown otherwise.
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Michael Gary Scott

Oct 27, 12:42 PM

Hokomojo said:
He’s won 10 games twice at ole Miss in the regular season playing an almost identical schedule to us. There are flaws, but every coach has them.
This and he allegedly WANTS to be here
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RunHamburger

Oct 27, 12:43 PM

Hokomojo said:
He’s won 10 games twice at ole Miss in the regular season playing an almost identical schedule to us. There are flaws, but every coach has them.
So we’re gonna give a guy a $130m contract because he won 10 games twice at Ole Miss? Just seems equally as fiscally irresponsible as giving BK $100m. At best.
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Yourfriendcoop

Oct 27, 12:44 PM

Lane has never been a great HS recruiter but NIL runs the world. Lanes personality + his offensive mind would make LSU a very very attractive spot for skill players/QB’s. Make the correct hires on the defensive staff and in theory it’s a very good pairing.
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AJSwannfanclub

Oct 27, 12:44 PM

I think Brian Hartline is the safest, cheapest, and highest upside hire LSU can make. I would be happy with Kiffin but Hartline seems like a no brainer to me.
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NemoOutis

Oct 27, 12:45 PM

JimineyCricket7 said:
I won’t speak too much on Lane the coach as I’ve shared that multiple times but the contract issue is one that I think is very fair. If you are a person who is ready to run Scott Woodward out of town for giving Brian Kelly a massive contract, understand that it’ll be a contract bigger than that to hire Lane. Maybe it works out and Lane wins here, assuming he gets the job. Just something to consider from a financial perspective.
Ding ding ding.
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Tigers213

Oct 27, 12:48 PM

You guys act like it’s your money being spent on the coach, if the decision/ money makers wanna do another contract like that, that’s on them to do what the want. If it wasn’t for them, we would still have Kelly
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TigerUppercut

Oct 27, 12:51 PM

AJSwannfanclub said:
I think Brian Hartline is the safest, cheapest, and highest upside hire LSU can make. I would be happy with Kiffin but Hartline seems like a no brainer to me.
Cheapest? Maybe. Highest upside? Highly debatable. Safest? Not even close. The man has never been a HC at any level. He's only even been a coordinator for 3 years. LSU will not hire a first time HC.
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RunHamburger

Oct 27, 12:55 PM

AJSwannfanclub said:
I think Brian Hartline is the safest, cheapest, and highest upside hire LSU can make. I would be happy with Kiffin but Hartline seems like a no brainer to me.
I agree other than “safest”. He’s been excellent at Ohio State. But honestly he’s at the easiest program in America to succeed at as a coach and recruiting great at a position that also recruits itself there to some degree. Not to mention I don’t love the idea of hiring someone who from day 1 you know will absolutely leave given the right offer (that right offer being Ohio State).
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Tigerocker

Oct 27, 12:55 PM

Michael Gary Scott said:
This and he allegedly WANTS to be here
Why do you think he wants to be here so bad. Sure he likes WW but that doesn't mean he wants to move here and my Oxford buds say he loves it there as opposed to the shark infested higher crime rate of BR as opposed to Oxford. I'd love to see Lane here but not sure he wants to be here as much as you think he does..02

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