I don’t know if it’s just me but I have not liked the way ole miss fans have been reacting to this news and treating us. I’m not trying to spread hate and am looking for other people’s input on the subject but it just seems they are being extremely hypocritical.
The way they’re handling how we’re reacting to this is just poor to me. It’s almost like they’re acting like we’re crazy for being upset about their head coach directly tampering with our player. That’s just the impression I’ve got from reading their message boards and from Twitter. Would love some other perspectives too
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ReserveTiger
Jan 17, 11:46 PM
Everyone is chasing the ESPN/FOX Dollar. Coaches did it for 15-20 years, now the players are doing it. Nothing wrong with that. It happens in the real world of business every day of the week. It ain’t ever going back to what we enjoyed as fans.
XTIGERK
Jan 17, 11:49 PM
I mean, in their defense most of them are a product of the state of Mississippi public education system. And as we always said in South Carolina after national education test scores came out by state: “Thank God for Mississippi”.
benjables
Jan 17, 11:49 PM
ReserveTiger said:I understand a 19-20 year old kid wanting that kind of money, and I respect that. But that doesn’t mean I respect the coaches who offered it to him knowing he was enrolled at another school. Especially since you see examples all the time of schools not being able to live up to their end of the bargain.Everyone is chasing the Dollar. Coaches did it for 15-20 years, now the players are doing it. Nothing wrong with that. It happens in the real world of business every day of the week. It ain’t ever going back to what we enjoyed as fans.
benjables
Jan 17, 11:50 PM
XTIGERK said:You’re so right 😂I mean, in their defense most of them are a product of the state of Mississippi public education system. And as we always said in South Carolina after national education test scores came out by state: “Thank God for Mississippi”.
cpavlish
Jan 17, 11:50 PM
benjables said:Ole Miss fans got a taste of the heroin, that is being relevant in college football. They and their program will do anything for their next hit. Therefore, they will justify anything.I don’t know if it’s just me but I have not liked the way ole miss fans have been reacting to this news and treating us. I’m not trying to spread hate and am looking for other people’s input on the subject but it just seems they are being extremely hypocritical. The way they’re handling how we’re reacting to this is just poor to me. It’s almost like they’re acting like we’re crazy for being upset about their head coach directly tampering with our player. That’s just the impression I’ve got from reading their message boards and from Twitter. Would love some other perspectives too
JTJohnston
Jan 17, 11:51 PM
The phrase "most sensitive fanbase in America" got tossed around here once upon a time but I really do feel like there were some general college football fans that never really understood, or liked, that a "random" school like Clemson was winning as big as we were in football.
They see their program as being generally above Clemson in resources and prestige so it didn't make sense to them to be looking up at us.
I also think there are a lot of people, decidedly myopic ones, who currently believe that a player ultimately doing what's best for himself is the ultimate purpose regardless of situation; that tampering and other improprieties don't mean anything so long as the player's interests are served in the end.
So it's good for Luke Ferrelli and Ole Miss, who cares about Clemson or the unabashed tampering that led to the outcome.
benjables
Jan 17, 11:52 PM
cpavlish said:I guess so. I guess it’s different for me because if Clemson was out doing this I wouldn’t be celebrating it. As much as I want to win and don’t lose out on battles like that, it would leave a bad taste in my mouth to do it like thatOle Miss fans got a taste of the heroin, that is being relevant in college football. They and their program will do anything for their next hit. Therefore, they will justify anything.
tboonpickens
Jan 17, 11:53 PM
Ole Miss has been an absolute dogshvt no account program for eternity except for one good Archie Manning season in prehistoric days, and now that Lane has left while pillaging their program, they know they're going to slide right back into CFB anonymity without a single thing to show in their trophy case for all the chicanery.
eubyscott
Jan 17, 11:55 PM
XTIGERK said:My family’s roots are in Mississippi and this is so true. The ones that ended up growing up in the state are legit idiots.I mean, in their defense most of them are a product of the state of Mississippi public education system. And as we always said in South Carolina after national education test scores came out by state: “Thank God for Mississippi”.
eubyscott
Jan 17, 11:58 PM
cpavlish said:They’ve been irrelevant for so long that this is spot on. Ole Miss people in general also think their crap don’t stink.Ole Miss fans got a taste of the heroin, that is being relevant in college football. They and their program will do anything for their next hit. Therefore, they will justify anything.
OneMoreTiger
Jan 17, 11:58 PM
benjables said:Well said. I add my lack of respect to the coaches, agents, other adults for not teaching, or demonstrating, any honor or integrity.I understand a 19-20 year old kid wanting that kind of money, and I respect that. But that doesn’t mean I respect the coaches who offered it to him knowing he was enrolled at another school. Especially since you see examples all the time of schools not being able to live up to their end of the bargain.
ReserveTiger
Jan 17, 11:59 PM
benjables said:I worked for a Big 4 accounting firm. We actively targeted and recruited seniors/managers from the other firms. Were we supposed to feel ashamed about that? Never happened. We need to walk away from the idealized world that today’s players choose Clemson the same way we chose to go to Clemson, or decided that Clemson was the team you wanted to faithfully follow.I understand a 19-20 year old kid wanting that kind of money, and I respect that. But that doesn’t mean I respect the coaches who offered it to him knowing he was enrolled at another school. Especially since you see examples all the time of schools not being able to live up to their end of the bargain.
ReserveTiger
Jan 18, 12:01 AM
cpavlish said:Are we not trying to flip a Nebraska portal commitment?Ole Miss fans got a taste of the heroin, that is being relevant in college football. They and their program will do anything for their next hit. Therefore, they will justify anything.

spskillz
Jan 18, 12:02 AM
ReserveTiger said:I don’t blame any player for chasing dollars, even if I think you also better lay down some sort of roots with a school too in case you need some help. BUT, in this case, the dude had already signed and enrolled. I have a problem with that all day.Everyone is chasing the ESPN/FOX Dollar. Coaches did it for 15-20 years, now the players are doing it. Nothing wrong with that. It happens in the real world of business every day of the week. It ain’t ever going back to what we enjoyed as fans.
metalman82
Jan 18, 12:02 AM
They were not relevant before Kiffin and they won’t be post Kiffin.
tboonpickens
Jan 18, 12:05 AM
ReserveTiger said:Pretty bad comparison actually. The JUCO kid isn't in the portal at all and didn't enroll in classes at Nebraska and start working out with the rest of the team. We finished second for him this recruiting cycle, and he reached back out once Nebraska apparently failed to make good on whatever financial offer they used to get him to Lincoln.Are we not trying to flip a Nebraska portal commitment?![]()
Dungeon09
Jan 18, 12:05 AM
Ole Miss has also been doing shady stuff in talent acquisition forever. Don’t forget one of their alumni adopted a recruit solely to get him to Oxford.
TequilasForLoss
Jan 18, 12:07 AM
JTJohnston said:i think this is accurate and i’d say a lot of them liked it when we were david slaying goliath in 2016-17 but soured on us when we had staying power the next four seasons.…I really do feel like there were some general college football fans that never really understood, or liked, that a "random" school like Clemson was winning as big as we were in football.
JTJohnston said:i am a big supporter of players’ right to make money when so many billlions are generated by the sport. but — when players like the Wisconsin guy a year ago or potentially Ferrelli now decide to sign a deal and then bail on it within days, i’m not good with that and haven’t been.I also think there are a lot of people, decidedly myopic ones, who currently believe that a player ultimately doing what's best for himself is the ultimate purpose regardless of situation; that tampering and other improprieties don't mean anything so long as the player's interests are served in the end.
tigertommy1
Jan 18, 12:07 AM
Well, Ole Miss fans have been used to this for 2-3 years now.
Having their players stolen; them stealing other players; rampant tampering both ways.
They are kinda wondering why Clemson fans are reacting like this.
But the reality is this fanbase hasn't experienced this. They are just accustomed to this is how CFB operates now, and especially so in the SEC
Winstonw101
Jan 18, 12:07 AM
XTIGERK said:You must not have heard of the Mississippi miracle . They’re like 4th in the US in literacy now .I mean, in their defense most of them are a product of the state of Mississippi public education system. And as we always said in South Carolina after national education test scores came out by state: “Thank God for Mississippi”.
benjables
Jan 18, 12:08 AM
ReserveTiger said:I completely agree with this, except for the fact that these players are not being treated as employees of the university. Imagine how frustrating it’d be if your firm signed a very good senior/manager, put pen to paper, agreed on a contract and everything. You start pouring into him, getting him caught up on everything going on in the firm etc. Randomly he decides to leave your firm for another one. Of course it’s about money at the end of the day but he still signed with you, you still committed to him expecting the same respect. My biggest gripe with the Ole miss coaching staff is that they know it’s against the rules and they don’t care. They understand how it feels and rather than go after plenty of uncommitted recruits, they entice a kid with money he can’t refuse.I worked for a Big 4 accounting firm. We actively targeted and recruited seniors/managers from the other firms. Were we supposed to fell ashamed about that? Never happened. We need to walk away from the idealized world that those players chose Clemson the same way we chose to go to school there, or decided that Clemson was the team I wanted to faithfully follow.
Silverstreak02
Jan 18, 12:09 AM
tboonpickens said:Even the Coots made it to Atlanta once. Not the Rebs. Ever.Ole Miss has been an absolute dogshvt no account program for eternity except for one good Archie Manning season in prehistoric days, and now that Lane has left while pillaging their program, they know they're going to slide right back into CFB anonymity without a single thing to show in their trophy case for all the chicanery.
benjables
Jan 18, 12:10 AM
ReserveTiger said:There’s a big distinction between commit and signee. Ferrelli was signed, announced by the university as a member of the football team. Attending classes, team workouts, everything. This commit is someone we identified early on and ultimately chose Nebraska but it fell apart due to them not being able to pay him what they said they would. Circumstances are entirely different here.Are we not trying to flip a Nebraska portal commitment?![]()
jhallen
Jan 18, 12:11 AM
Sorry..orange glasses off here..but in no way shape or form is Ole Miss prestigous compared to Clemson in terms of tradition and football excellence
All time wins..National Titles..bowl wins. Cfb playoffs ect..they are not better than Clemson..they got the Mannings and pre integration success..
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