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IraSchoffelNov 23, 6:27 PM

One note on the changes coming in FSU Football

From talking with a source with knowledge of this decision, this is not going to be a matter of making one or two new hires or replacing a couple of staff members. They are looking at fundamental changes of the entire program to meet the challenges of this new world (with the portal, NIL, revenue sharing, etc.) And I get the sense they think it will be better to do that without paying $100 million and then starting over in one fell swoop. We can debate that decision, but it sounds like the entire program could be overhauled ... looking at every position and staffer. Which I personally think is desperately needed. I'll have more on this throughout the day. But just wanted to share that this isn't going to be cosmetic changes.
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kaswear

Nov 23, 6:29 PM

If you have to do this, you have a rotten program. How is the person that is guaranteed to survive this, the very guy that caused it?
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Jdash_904

Nov 23, 6:29 PM

If Norvell is till the Head Coach, then this doesn't mean shit.
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BCNoles16

Nov 23, 6:29 PM

Better have negotiated a much lower buyout too
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ChiefWB

Nov 23, 6:29 PM

Hope this includes an entirely new staff of assistant coaches including both coordinators.
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MountainNoleMan

Nov 23, 6:30 PM

Um, so not in one fell swoop, but overhaul at every position necessary. What does that even mean? Keep the wanna be Mercury 7 astronaut but hire all new coordinators and dump an F ton into NIL with a HC that can’t recruit or develop for shiz? I gotta enough going on in my life with real stuff to waste anymore mental energy on this monkey circus.
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RustinCohle

Nov 23, 6:30 PM

Who cares about changes to the program when the most glaring issue wasn't fixed. The head coach is horrible at his job and that is not going to change. Next season will be another disaster but I guess Norvell will coach at FSU until his contract runs out, embarrassing.
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ChiefWB

Nov 23, 6:30 PM

Has Norvell also agreed to take a massive pay cut / restructuring of his absurd contract or am I missing something
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Smileynole

Nov 23, 6:31 PM

IraSchoffel said:
From talking with a source with knowledge of this decision, this is not going to be a matter of making one or two new hires or replacing a couple of staff members. They are looking at fundamental changes of the entire program to meet the challenges of this new world (with the portal, NIL, revenue sharing, etc.) And I get the sense they think it will be better to do that without paying $100 million and then starting over in one fell swoop. We can debate that decision, but it sounds like the entire program could be overhauled ... looking at every position and staffer. Which I personally think is desperately needed. I'll have more on this throughout the day. But just wanted to share that this isn't going t
IraSchoffel said:
o be cosmetic changes.
Is Norvells contract getting restructured?
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kyderby

Nov 23, 6:31 PM

Good luck with that, unless it includes an overhaul of MN’s contract, including a MATERIAL reduction in his buy out!
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NYCNole

Nov 23, 6:31 PM

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815

Nov 23, 6:31 PM

Image The same clowns that ignored failure after failure for SIX YEARS in talent acquisition and gave raises to coaches who were horrible at recruiting are now going to fix this? Seriously? Do you hear yourself?
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B4fsu

Nov 23, 6:31 PM

So you keep the guy responsible for all of it and indirectly absolve him of all blame to save $10 million. You’re going to fire him next year. We all know that.
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Nole Daddy

Nov 23, 6:32 PM

Can’t fix this without cutting the snake’s head off
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pcolanole07

Nov 23, 6:32 PM

Start with Yray. He is the worst of the bunch and needs to go next Sunday. Get a true GM that oversees the entire operation, roster acquisition, talent evaluation, fights for better scheduling (two road Friday night games is ludicrous for a program like FSU), instills and maintains accountability throughout all aspects of the program, etc.
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Vickirsam

Nov 23, 6:32 PM

There is no doubt that recruiting is a core problem and Mike is gone different routes in regards to trying to get the right group assembled while navigating the new transfer portal and NIL changes for the last 3 years. We are not the only team that is suffering from this problem but we very well may have the most spoiled fan base. Until Mike is no longer head coach I will continue to support him same as Bobby and Jimbo during their down years. If we can correct the recruiting and improve player attitudes I think Mike is probably a good CEO. Both him and the administration understand the problems. And like Ira said a 100 million dollar buyout is not an acceptable option.
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NoleBax55

Nov 23, 6:33 PM

Is this move by the administration surgery to fix the issues or is it a band aid that makes it look hopeful but next November we are in the same situation? If this proves to bring success (I don’t because a leadership change is needed) I can get behind it. But another sub mediocre year puts us further behind then paying the contract off and starting over. I don’t know what is best - I’m always supporting the Noles and hoping for the best. Go Noles
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Something to Ponder

Nov 23, 6:33 PM

B4fsu said:
So you keep the guy responsible for all of it and indirectly absolve him of all blame to save $10 million. You’re going to fire him next year. We all know that.
Yeah how much cheaper is it waiting one more year to fire him? Or are we going to wait another 3-4 years before doing so?
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noles970103

Nov 23, 6:33 PM

IraSchoffel said:
From talking with a source with knowledge of this decision, this is not going to be a matter of making one or two new hires or replacing a couple of staff members. They are looking at fundamental changes of the entire program to meet the challenges of this new world (with the portal, NIL, revenue sharing, etc.) And I get the sense they think it will be better to do that without paying $100 million and then starting over in one fell swoop. We can debate that decision, but it sounds like the entire program could be overhauled ... looking at every position and staffer. Which I personally think is desperately needed. I'll have more on this throughout the day. But just wanted to share that this isn't going to be cosmetic changes.
If Yray Tokarz Papuchas and the entire recruiting staff comes back then this is an unmitigated disaster what a complete joke of an organization
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Dave393

Nov 23, 6:33 PM

Ira, no offense, but who cares? While needed, this isn’t a short-term fix. We’re stuck sucking next year with no help in sight because we have the same captain steering the boat.
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budfox64

Nov 23, 6:33 PM

ChiefWB said:
Has Norvell also agreed to take a massive pay cut / restructuring of his absurd contract or am I missing something
I would think that has to be part of it. Well let you stay if you lower the buyout. I think that would be somewhat fair. Possibly salary even.
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815

Nov 23, 6:33 PM

IraSchoffel said:
From talking with a source with knowledge of this decision, this is not going to be a matter of making one or two new hires or replacing a couple of staff members. They are looking at fundamental changes of the entire program to meet the challenges of this new world (with the portal, NIL, revenue sharing, etc.) And I get the sense they think it will be better to do that without paying $100 million and then starting over in one fell swoop. We can debate that decision, but it sounds like the entire program could be overhauled ... looking at every position and staffer. Which I personally think is desperately needed. I'll have more on this throughout the day. But just wanted to share that this isn't going to be cosmetic changes.
What a ridiculous joke.
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TallyNative850

Nov 23, 6:34 PM

these people at the helm are a total disgrace to the entire fanbase. Unfortunately the boosters cared too much about being a real estate developer instead of running a football program. we were all blinded by 13-1… yes I added that one L because it matters… we should’ve known then that the future of our program was bleak because we couldn’t even score a TD in the orange bowl. That season was clearly one of the ugliest 13-1 seasons of all time. As Corey Clark has said earlier this season, every year the team gets progressively worse as the season goes on… even 2023… yet, we give him a ridiculous contract that we clearly couldn’t afford. it’s clearly a coaching issue and I do not expect much to change with Mike Norvell at the helm….
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FSUDoles

Nov 23, 6:34 PM

This is like firing all the crew of the Titanic but leaving the Captain at the helm.
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Jamaicanole

Nov 23, 6:34 PM

There is mainly one staffer in particular they should really reconsider...

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