The difficulty is that coaches that can do the job, have to want the job, at the right price point.
Further complicating matters is that the available resources on defense are not competitive. Adverse history, NIL and facilities are not competitive enough to attract the best the best HS recruits and portal transfers. The bad publicity regarding Rutgers finances doesn’t help. So coaches have to make do with “developmental” kids.
Our Big Ten starters will be replaced with lower division kids from the transfer portal, or untested kids already on the roster. Understandably, they will need time to acclimate.
Prospective candidates know our roster inside out, and understand the defense has to be significantly rebuilt, almost from scratch. Hardly an ideal situation for a Team facing a very difficult conference schedule.
- Michigan
- Northwestern
- USC
- Indiana
- Maryland
- MSU
- Nebraska
- Wisconsin
- Penn State
Based on history, I currently see 3 possible wins, and the defense faring very poorly. Coaches don’t want to fail.
And if they are going to be put in that position, candidates are asking for risk premiums, to fairly compensate them for the risk they will be undertaking. What should that risk premium be? Well that is subject to negotiation.
Remember that Rutgers had to raise Kirk Ciarocca’s salary by roughly 50%, before he would agree to come aboard.
We can get a DC tomorrow if Rutgers ponies up. When they say, it ain’t the money, it’s the money. What else are they going to say?
so all we can do is wait for things to play out. The portal ship has sailed, with the last day to add classes being on Friday. Remaining kids from the portal will be able to enroll for summer, so there’s no rush.
Someone should be in place by spring practice, hopefully.
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RUsojo
Jan 28, 2:22 PM
Indeed it always has been.
Tough to make hires for guys who are in great standing in their roles during a game of musical chairs with many preferable seats to RU. A brand risk that requires significant compensation above a candidates other options to often overcome.
RUbanks
Jan 28, 2:25 PM
RUsojo said:Thanks RUChatGPTIndeed it always has been. Tough to make hires for guys who are in great standing in their roles during a game of musical chairs with many preferable seats to RU. A brand risk that requires significant compensation above a candidates other options to often overcome.
NewJerseyGuy
Jan 28, 2:31 PM
rutgersal_rivals139582 said:What role does the New Fieldhouse play in all of this?The difficulty is that coaches that can do the job, have to want the job, at the right price point. Further complicating matters is that the available resources on defense are not competitive. Adverse history, NIL and facilities are not competitive enough to attract the best the best HS recruits and portal transfers. The bad publicity regarding Rutgers finances doesn’t help. So coaches have to make do with “developmental” kids. Our Big Ten starters will be replaced with lower division kids from the transfer portal, or untested kids already on the roster. Understandably, they will need time to acclimate. Prospective candidates know our roster inside out, and understand the defense has to be significantly rebuilt, almost from scratch. Hardly an ideal situation for a Team facing a very difficult conference schedule. - Michigan - Northwestern - USC - Indiana - Maryland - MSU - Nebraska - Wisconsin - Penn State Based on history, I currently see 3 possible wins, and the defense faring very poorly. Coaches don’t want to fail. And if they are going to be put in that position, candidates are asking for risk premiums, to fairly compensate them for the risk they will be undertaking. What should that risk premium be? Well that is subject to negotiation. Remember that Rutgers had to raise Kirk Ciarocca’s salary by roughly 50%, before he would agree to come aboard. We can get a DC tomorrow if Rutgers ponies up. When they say, it ain’t the money, it’s the money. What else are they going to say? so all we can do is wait for things to play out. The portal ship has sailed, with the last day to add classes being on Friday. Remaining kids from the portal will be able to enroll for summer, so there’s no rush. Someone should be in place by spring practice, hopefully.
kingz213
Jan 28, 2:31 PM
Another thread lol
Scarlet4ever
Jan 28, 2:33 PM
Yeah it must be terrible trying to get someone to take a job paying 1.5m+ when they could stay at a G5 or lower level and get paid 300k
Christian0007
Jan 28, 2:48 PM
rutgersal_rivals139582 said:if every coach thought like the essay you just wrote... no one would ever apply to another job opening and accept it. THIS IS A LOSER ATTITUDEThe difficulty is that coaches that can do the job, have to want the job, at the right price point. Further complicating matters is that the available resources on defense are not competitive. Adverse history, NIL and facilities are not competitive enough to attract the best the best HS recruits and portal transfers. The bad publicity regarding Rutgers finances doesn’t help. So coaches have to make do with “developmental” kids. Our Big Ten starters will be replaced with lower division kids from the transfer portal, or untested kids already on the roster. Understandably, they will need time to acclimate. Prospective candidates know our roster inside out, and understand the defense has to be significantly rebuilt, almost from scratch. Hardly an ideal situation for a Team facing a very difficult conference schedule. - Michigan - Northwestern - USC - Indiana - Maryland - MSU - Nebraska - Wisconsin - Penn State Based on history, I currently see 3 possible wins, and the defense faring very poorly. Coaches don’t want to fail. And if they are going to be put in that position, candidates are asking for risk premiums, to fairly compensate them for the risk they will be undertaking. What should that risk premium be? Well that is subject to negotiation. Remember that Rutgers had to raise Kirk Ciarocca’s salary by roughly 50%, before he would agree to come aboard. We can get a DC tomorrow if Rutgers ponies up. When they say, it ain’t the money, it’s the money. What else are they going to say? so all we can do is wait for things to play out. The portal ship has sailed, with the last day to add classes being on Friday. Remaining kids from the portal will be able to enroll for summer, so there’s no rush. Someone should be in place by spring practice, hopefully.
George29
Jan 28, 2:50 PM
In other news, water is wet.
seansherm
Jan 28, 2:50 PM
Thanks, I wasn't sure
Christian0007
Jan 28, 2:51 PM
rutgersal_rivals139582 said:STRAIGHT UP LOSERS THINK LIKE THIS SHIT STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESSThe difficulty is that coaches that can do the job, have to want the job, at the right price point. Further complicating matters is that the available resources on defense are not competitive. Adverse history, NIL and facilities are not competitive enough to attract the best the best HS recruits and portal transfers. The bad publicity regarding Rutgers finances doesn’t help. So coaches have to make do with “developmental” kids. Our Big Ten starters will be replaced with lower division kids from the transfer portal, or untested kids already on the roster. Understandably, they will need time to acclimate. Prospective candidates know our roster inside out, and understand the defense has to be significantly rebuilt, almost from scratch. Hardly an ideal situation for a Team facing a very difficult conference schedule. - Michigan - Northwestern - USC - Indiana - Maryland - MSU - Nebraska - Wisconsin - Penn State Based on history, I currently see 3 possible wins, and the defense faring very poorly. Coaches don’t want to fail. And if they are going to be put in that position, candidates are asking for risk premiums, to fairly compensate them for the risk they will be undertaking. What should that risk premium be? Well that is subject to negotiation. Remember that Rutgers had to raise Kirk Ciarocca’s salary by roughly 50%, before he would agree to come aboard. We can get a DC tomorrow if Rutgers ponies up. When they say, it ain’t the money, it’s the money. What else are they going to say? so all we can do is wait for things to play out. The portal ship has sailed, with the last day to add classes being on Friday. Remaining kids from the portal will be able to enroll for summer, so there’s no rush. Someone should be in place by spring practice, hopefully.
rutgersal_rivals139582
Jan 28, 2:53 PM
NewJerseyGuy said:A new Fieldhouse would make it easier to hire, because it would be easier to recruit. Our facilities are a huge red flag. Anyone visiting Michigan, Maryland, Penn State, Northwestern and Rutgers would reasonably conclude that Rutgers isn’t serious about success. This is why our class is at the bottom of the Big 10.What role does the New Fieldhouse play in all of this?
Nycrusupporter
Jan 28, 2:59 PM
Al’s been broken . . .
rutgersal_rivals139582
Jan 28, 3:01 PM
Scarlet4ever said:Danny Hurley preferred to stay at Rhode Island and wait for the UConn job. Different sport but similar situation. Cristobal decided to stay at FIU and make $400K, rather than make $1M+ at Rutgers. It’s happened to us before. Coaches are looking at what happened to Gleeson and Smith and thinking twice. Gleeson spent three years in the wilderness before finally landing a similar position this year.Yeah it must be terrible trying to get someone to take a job paying 1.5m+ when they could stay at a G5 or lower level and get paid 300k
rutgersal_rivals139582
Jan 28, 3:03 PM
Christian0007 said:Coaches are rational, and understandably will choose the best opportunities for themselves. if this was such a great opportunity, it would have been filled.if every coach thought like the essay you just wrote... no one would ever apply to another job opening and accept it. THIS IS A LOSER ATTITUDE
AreYouNUTS
Jan 28, 3:09 PM
Another week….ANOTHER EXCUSE….you can’t make this (bull)shit up!!!
ScarletJocko
Jan 28, 3:17 PM
Is this your sales pitch to get 1000 fans to throw away an extra $10k a year or whatever youre always on about?
tico brown
Jan 28, 3:23 PM
Talked about everything except what is really wrong with the Rutgers football program.
What else is new? No one wants to be bothered with a program run by a “Jersey Guy” who can’t get Jersey Kids to join or Jersey Businesses to invest in like other coaches at other schools in other states
seansherm
Jan 28, 3:25 PM
rutgersal_rivals139582 said:Nobodies looking at Smith and thinking twice, this has happened to him at every stop. Gleeson, maybe, but he came from a job he didn't call plays to one he did and failed.Danny Hurley preferred to stay at Rhode Island and wait for the UConn job. Different sport but similar situation. Cristobal decided to stay at FIU and make $400K, rather than make $1M+ at Rutgers. It’s happened to us before. Coaches are looking at what happened to Gleeson and Smith and thinking twice. Gleeson spent three years in the wilderness before finally landing a similar position this year.
LeapinLou
Jan 28, 3:29 PM
rutgersal_rivals139582 said:I'll admit 6-6 will be tough to achieve this year, but it can be done. It's fair to say 3 wins is a floor.Based on history, I currently see 3 possible wins, and the defense faring very poorly. Coaches don’t want to fail.
RUsojo
Jan 28, 3:33 PM
$1.5M Rutgers DC salary would not land any desirable DC candidate.
Compensation has increased drastically in a short period of time. And our dollars don’t go as far as others and our brand is a risk compared to others.
scrltnite1
Jan 28, 3:33 PM
Nonsense!
Coordinator jobs in the B1G represent the pinnacle for guys that have elected to become football coaches. The DC position is not filled for one reason: Greg has chosen not to fill it. I know nothing of Greg's rationale, but the idea that he hasn't filled it simply because he's been underwhelmed by ALL of the guys he's interviewed -- because ALL of the guys that want it are not up to the job -- is nonsense. This appears to be a classic case of allowing perfect to become the enemy of good; I sure hope Greg finds Mr. Perfect!
S_Janowski
Jan 28, 3:34 PM
RUsojo said:Musical chairs has been over for weeks. Not hiring a DC for almost 2 months is a much bigger reflection on Greg than anything.Indeed it always has been. Tough to make hires for guys who are in great standing in their roles during a game of musical chairs with many preferable seats to RU. A brand risk that requires significant compensation above a candidates other options to often overcome.
rutgersal_rivals139582
Jan 28, 3:48 PM
RUsojo said:It’s the Rutgers tax$1.5M Rutgers DC salary would not land any desirable DC candidate. Compensation has increased drastically in a short period of time. And our dollars don’t go as far as others and our brand is a risk compared to others.
rutgersal_rivals139582
Jan 28, 3:54 PM
scrltnite1 said:Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, and USC jobs are at the pinnacle of the Big 10. The Rutgers job is at the bottom. That’s why coaches get to name their price. Richie’s “Rutgers Tax” doesn’t only apply to recruiting. It applies to coaching hires too.Nonsense! Coordinator jobs in the B1G represent the pinnacle for guys that have elected to become football coaches. The DC position is not filled for one reason: Greg has chosen not to fill it. I know nothing of Greg's rationale, but the idea that he hasn't filled it simply because he's been underwhelmed by ALL of the guys he's interviewed -- because ALL of the guys that want it are not up to the job -- is nonsense. This appears to be a classic case of allowing perfect to become the enemy of good; I sure hope Greg finds Mr. Perfect!
Bill 86
Jan 28, 3:57 PM
Conversely, all a DC candidate needs to do is improve on last year in his first year. Kind of a lay up.
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