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Thoughts on portal transfers

I'm losing interest very quickly in college athletics. The portal has destroyed all loyalty. I understand getting paid, but this wild west changing of teams is ridiculous. Need to go back to 1 time transfer and only a second if a coach leaves. Sign contracts to protect the players and ensure they are paid if cut by a team. Not looking for an argument at all, but wondering what everyone else thinks. I used to love most every aspect of college athletics, but I'm finding I care less and less with each passing announcement. I loved tournament time every year and followed Iowa through their run but missed the last 2 games which never would have happened a few years ago. Maybe it's just old age as my apathy towards college athletics continues to dwindle. But hearing the Deal transfer news along with most of ISU's team leaving and now the entire Tennessee team going into the portal is beyond ridiculous. I know, I know, the smartasses will come out of the woodwork on this, but was just curious on what everyone's thoughts were.
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Chesapeake Bay Dog

Apr 02, 4:01 PM

NIL is the biggest culprit as far as I am concerned. It's been 50 years since I was on the athletic field. We used to play for the love of the sport not the dollars. Change and progress are not always the answer to everyone's prayers.
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Sam Handwich

Apr 02, 4:01 PM

Adjust or die. It ain’t changing, my man.
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Seahawk

Apr 02, 4:02 PM

KF and Iowa football have embraced the portal and are well below the average for players exiting in the portal. I would expect things to be similar with Iowa basketball, while we will certainly have some players leave, I still think BMC will recruit the right kids that want to be at Iowa, so I wouldn’t expect high turnover on the roster. Iowa still values continuity with their rosters and programs, so I don’t have any issues with the portal, especially since they got rid of the spring window for football. As Brad Pitt said in the movie moneyball, adapt or die. I think both KF and BMC are adapting if not embracing the portal while still valuing the developmental foundations of their programs.
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DodgerHawki

Apr 02, 4:06 PM

Realhawkmash said:
I'm losing interest very quickly in college athletics. The portal has destroyed all loyalty. I understand getting paid, but this wild west changing of teams is ridiculous. Need to go back to 1 time transfer and only a second if a coach leaves. Sign contracts to protect the players and ensure they are paid if cut by a team. Not looking for an argument at all, but wondering what everyone else thinks. I used to love most every aspect of college athletics, but I'm finding I care less and less with each passing announcement. I loved tournament time every year and followed Iowa through their run but missed the last 2 games which never would have happened a few years ago. Maybe it's just old age as my apathy towards college athletics continues to dwindle. But hearing the Deal transfer news along with most of ISU's team leaving and now the entire Tennessee team going into the portal is beyond ridiculous. I know, I know, the smartasses will come out of the woodwork on this, but was just curious on what everyone's thoughts were.
it is different to be sure. Don't blame a person for not finding the same interest in college sports at all. I will say that without the transfer portal (and the ability for transfers to be immediately eligible), Iowa is not anywhere near a Elite 8 run this year with a first-year coach. And athletes like Lucy Olsen and Mark Gronowski are beloved Hawkeyes now after just 1 season of playing for the Hawks. My advice is to appreciate the fact that in the "major" sports (both basketball teams and football), the Iowa coaches have created a culture where by and large the key players want to stay. I would be in agreement in principle on the 1 time transfer rule. I'm sure it would be challenged in court. Best thing a coach can do is create a program culture where players want to be there.
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uirx2002

Apr 02, 4:06 PM

Sounds like a you problem.
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1Flyer

Apr 02, 4:12 PM

Realhawkmash said:
I'm losing interest very quickly in college athletics. The portal has destroyed all loyalty. I understand getting paid, but this wild west changing of teams is ridiculous. Need to go back to 1 time transfer and only a second if a coach leaves. Sign contracts to protect the players and ensure they are paid if cut by a team. Not looking for an argument at all, but wondering what everyone else thinks. I used to love most every aspect of college athletics, but I'm finding I care less and less with each passing announcement. I loved tournament time every year and followed Iowa through their run but missed the last 2 games which never would have happened a few years ago. Maybe it's just old age as my apathy towards college athletics continues to dwindle. But hearing the Deal transfer news along with most of ISU's team leaving and now the entire Tennessee team going into the portal is beyond ridiculous. I know, I know, the smartasses will come out of the woodwork on this, but was just curious on what everyone's thoughts were.
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Elihawk

Apr 02, 4:15 PM

Yes, you can look at the glass half empty or the glass half full. On one hand, yes some of the transfer crap is ridiculous...guys on 4 teams in 4 years, 25 year old still playing, players just leaving school after school for another bag, etc. On the other hand, you can see schools like Iowa and others, still valuing the loyalty and making player development still their #1 priority,,,and yet using the portal in reasonable doses to get better at key spots. The portal, IMHO, make Iowa even more fun to pull for.
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KurtWarner

Apr 02, 4:40 PM

Seahawk said:
KF and Iowa football have embraced the portal and are well below the average for players exiting in the portal. I would expect things to be similar with Iowa basketball, while we will certainly have some players leave, I still think BMC will recruit the right kids that want to be at Iowa, so I wouldn’t expect high turnover on the roster. Iowa still values continuity with their rosters and programs, so I don’t have any issues with the portal, especially since they got rid of the spring window for football. As Brad Pitt said in the movie moneyball, adapt or die. I think both KF and BMC are adapting if not embracing the portal while still valuing the developmental foundations of their programs.
I bet KF absolutely despises what's going on actually
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Dbrocket

Apr 02, 4:50 PM

Elihawk said:
Yes, you can look at the glass half empty or the glass half full. On one hand, yes some of the transfer crap is ridiculous...guys on 4 teams in 4 years, 25 year old still playing, players just leaving school after school for another bag, etc. On the other hand, you can see schools like Iowa and others, still valuing the loyalty and making player development still their #1 priority,,,and yet using the portal in reasonable doses to get better at key spots. The portal, IMHO, make Iowa even more fun to pull for.
I agree. People are overlooking the positive on some of these things. I'll add some more: It used to be that a player like Anthony Hawkins or Bryce Hawthorne might excel at his level, but the competition level would limit their NFL opportunities, and probably their readiness if they DID get an opportunity. Now? Those same guys get early playing opportunities and help their initial teams and then they can level up to a power conference school. They can get developed at/to a higher level there, play, help their new team, and hopefully excel against higher level competition, and get much better opportunities and be much more prepared to capitalize on them. The portal has basically created paths to success that never existed for a big group of recruits AND improves the quality of teams we all watch. The flip side of some schools building a roster of mercenaries and some players trying to play until they're 28 exists, and I would prefer it to be reined in, but I think they're somewhat outliers.
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ICHerky

Apr 02, 4:54 PM

uirx2002 said:
Sounds like a you problem.
Nope, it’s not just him.
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djd15837

Apr 02, 4:55 PM

Seahawk said:
KF and Iowa football have embraced the portal and are well below the average for players exiting in the portal. I would expect things to be similar with Iowa basketball, while we will certainly have some players leave, I still think BMC will recruit the right kids that want to be at Iowa, so I wouldn’t expect high turnover on the roster. Iowa still values continuity with their rosters and programs, so I don’t have any issues with the portal, especially since they got rid of the spring window for football. As Brad Pitt said in the movie moneyball, adapt or die. I think both KF and BMC are adapting if not embracing the portal while still valuing the developmental foundations of their programs.
I agree with a developmental program of trying to keep players but your still paying them pretty damn well to stay.
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HungryHawk

Apr 02, 5:00 PM

Sam Handwich said:
Adjust or die. It ain’t changing, my man.
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WiskyHawk

Apr 02, 5:02 PM

Realhawkmash said:
I'm losing interest very quickly in college athletics. The portal has destroyed all loyalty. I understand getting paid, but this wild west changing of teams is ridiculous. Need to go back to 1 time transfer and only a second if a coach leaves. Sign contracts to protect the players and ensure they are paid if cut by a team. Not looking for an argument at all, but wondering what everyone else thinks. I used to love most every aspect of college athletics, but I'm finding I care less and less with each passing announcement. I loved tournament time every year and followed Iowa through their run but missed the last 2 games which never would have happened a few years ago. Maybe it's just old age as my apathy towards college athletics continues to dwindle. But hearing the Deal transfer news along with most of ISU's team leaving and now the entire Tennessee team going into the portal is beyond ridiculous. I know, I know, the smartasses will come out of the woodwork on this, but was just curious on what everyone's thoughts were.
Players have been getting paid forever, with some schools flaunting the rules that existed before NIL. Schools have been making millions of dollars off student-athletes for longer. TV contract raised incomes by powers of 10. Now that college athletes are getting some compensation, this should settle down but it's going to take a few years. In the meantime, it's not going away so it's best to have coaching staffs willing to adapt! The games are still extremely engaging. Most players are still playing for the love of the game but are able to earn a living/gain some security for their future.
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kzmyers

Apr 02, 5:02 PM

Cats out of the bag and we are never going back. Appears that the NCAA’s hands are tied regarding the transfer limit per most court cases. I don’t like what is going on, and makes the college game harder to follow as an average fan, it also lessens rivalries some when you don’t see the same players competing against each other for 3-4 in a row. But I’ve accepted that it is what it is— and there likely is no backpedaling at this point. Still prefer it over pro sports where most of them don’t really care if they win or not, as long as they got paid.
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Buildemhawk

Apr 02, 5:12 PM

In order to get the crazy transfer stuff in control, they are going to have to call these players what they are, employees. Once they do that, the players likely unionize, and you collectively bargin transfer runs, and contracts will mean something. You can set up rules for agents, so they can't take advantage, etc. Until you do that, forget any rules are regulation on transferring, agents, or anything, it won't hold up in court.
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sandiegohawk

Apr 02, 5:15 PM

Realhawkmash said:
I'm losing interest very quickly in college athletics. The portal has destroyed all loyalty…
I disagree. Iowa men’s bball just had a total overhaul of their roster and I watched more men’s hoops this year than the last 3 years combined. Iowa brought in a starting QB who apparently had no loyalty to his old school and I did not miss a snap all season. Women's bball had a new PG that was not loyal to her last school but that did not stop me for rooting for her and her team. I loved it when Kylie F decided to come back for another season at Iowa even though she initially chose to go to school at ISU. The best performers on Iowa’s wrestling team were from individuals who were not loyal to their previous school and coach. Iowa will fill out a roster in all sports and I will pull for them. If the team is good so will the rest of the fanbase whether the athletes are high school recruits or portal transfers.
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Chesapeake Bay Dog

Apr 02, 5:23 PM

sandiegohawk said:
I disagree. Iowa men’s bball just had a total overhaul of their roster and I watched more men’s hoops this year than the last 3 years combined. Iowa brought in a starting QB who apparently had no loyalty to his old school and I did not miss a snap all season. Women's bball had a new PG that was not loyal to her last school but that did not stop me for rooting for her and her team. I loved it when Kylie F decided to come back for another season at Iowa even though she initially chose to go to school at ISU. The best performers on Iowa’s wrestling team were from individuals who were not loyal to their previous school and coach. Iowa will fill out a roster in all sports and I will pull for them. If the team is good so will the rest of the fanbase whether the athletes are high school recruits or portal transfers.
Kukie-got to love it.
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86Hawkeye

Apr 02, 5:29 PM

Realhawkmash said:
I'm losing interest very quickly in college athletics. The portal has destroyed all loyalty. I understand getting paid, but this wild west changing of teams is ridiculous. Need to go back to 1 time transfer and only a second if a coach leaves. Sign contracts to protect the players and ensure they are paid if cut by a team. Not looking for an argument at all, but wondering what everyone else thinks. I used to love most every aspect of college athletics, but I'm finding I care less and less with each passing announcement. I loved tournament time every year and followed Iowa through their run but missed the last 2 games which never would have happened a few years ago. Maybe it's just old age as my apathy towards college athletics continues to dwindle. But hearing the Deal transfer news along with most of ISU's team leaving and now the entire Tennessee team going into the portal is beyond ridiculous. I know, I know, the smartasses will come out of the woodwork on this, but was just curious on what everyone's thoughts were.
The portal works both ways. Someone else’s loss could be our gain. I’d say Iowa has done pretty well in the various transfer portals so far.
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Bobby1

Apr 02, 5:30 PM

HungryHawk said:
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It's called evolution...you keep driving that horse and buggy...and nothing wrong with that. Different strokes for different folks.
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Jrwolfe999

Apr 02, 5:32 PM

This is not going to swing back the other way. Despite the obvious issues, the NIL and portal era has leveled the playing field which is a good thing. Adapt or die.
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Seahawk

Apr 02, 5:34 PM

djd15837 said:
I agree with a developmental program of trying to keep players but your still paying them pretty damn well to stay.
I think that is a good thing.
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Cidsports

Apr 02, 5:37 PM

Realhawkmash said:
I'm losing interest very quickly in college athletics. The portal has destroyed all loyalty. I understand getting paid, but this wild west changing of teams is ridiculous. Need to go back to 1 time transfer and only a second if a coach leaves. Sign contracts to protect the players and ensure they are paid if cut by a team. Not looking for an argument at all, but wondering what everyone else thinks. I used to love most every aspect of college athletics, but I'm finding I care less and less with each passing announcement. I loved tournament time every year and followed Iowa through their run but missed the last 2 games which never would have happened a few years ago. Maybe it's just old age as my apathy towards college athletics continues to dwindle. But hearing the Deal transfer news along with most of ISU's team leaving and now the entire Tennessee team going into the portal is beyond ridiculous. I know, I know, the smartasses will come out of the woodwork on this, but was just curious on what everyone's thoughts were.
What about non-college athletics? No, the portal didn't destroy "all loyalty." There are some great student-athletes over the years that transferred in or transferred out for various reasons. I saw Pete Rose leave the Reds back in the day. I guess it prepared me for the today. I just renewed my College Football tickets - Kinnick last month. Ben McCollum drew me back for MBB. Certain programs have problems. Players will make good and bad decisions. Go Hawks ✌️
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Beaverdalehawk

Apr 02, 5:41 PM

Realhawkmash said:
I'm losing interest very quickly in college athletics. The portal has destroyed all loyalty. I understand getting paid, but this wild west changing of teams is ridiculous. Need to go back to 1 time transfer and only a second if a coach leaves. Sign contracts to protect the players and ensure they are paid if cut by a team. Not looking for an argument at all, but wondering what everyone else thinks. I used to love most every aspect of college athletics, but I'm finding I care less and less with each passing announcement. I loved tournament time every year and followed Iowa through their run but missed the last 2 games which never would have happened a few years ago. Maybe it's just old age as my apathy towards college athletics continues to dwindle. But hearing the Deal transfer news along with most of ISU's team leaving and now the entire Tennessee team going into the portal is beyond ridiculous. I know, I know, the smartasses will come out of the woodwork on this, but was just curious on what everyone's thoughts were.
100% agree
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Beaverdalehawk

Apr 02, 5:42 PM

Seahawk said:
KF and Iowa football have embraced the portal and are well below the average for players exiting in the portal. I would expect things to be similar with Iowa basketball, while we will certainly have some players leave, I still think BMC will recruit the right kids that want to be at Iowa, so I wouldn’t expect high turnover on the roster. Iowa still values continuity with their rosters and programs, so I don’t have any issues with the portal, especially since they got rid of the spring window for football. As Brad Pitt said in the movie moneyball, adapt or die. I think both KF and BMC are adapting if not embracing the portal while still valuing the developmental foundations of their programs.
KF hates it but he will adapt.

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