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Took 7 games but at least Dabo finally ADMITS their are major problems

in his program. similar to 2009 but different environment. No way he is gonna step down. He wants to rebuild the program he created. Question is can he do it. Will require getting rid of dead wood and spending major cash. Will require NIL coordination with multiple new coaches. Not many coaches have successfully rebuilt in the portal. Indy did but coach brought a good many players with him from JM. Cannot be a one year rebuild. Will be a lot of HC firings so there will be plenty of assistants in the portal but the competition for then will considerably raise cost. Who thinks he can do it and has the energy to do it?
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padtigers

Oct 19, 3:21 PM

Big Don said:
in his program. similar to 2009 but different environment. No way he is gonna step down. He wants to rebuild the program he created. Question is can he do it. Will require getting rid of dead wood and spending major cash. Will require NIL coordination with multiple new coaches. Not many coaches have successfully rebuilt in the portal. Indy did but coach brought a good many players with him from JM. Cannot be a one year rebuild. Will be a lot of HC firings so there will be plenty of assistants in the portal but the competition for then will considerably raise cost. Who thinks he can do it and has the energy to do it?
I would add that with some HCs getting the ax at some high level programs the player portal pool could be oozing with talent
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cumatt

Oct 19, 3:24 PM

When did Dabo say there are major problems?
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cutiger4010

Oct 19, 3:25 PM

The result of yesterday’s game didn’t change anything. Our program has major problems regardless if we would have beat SMU
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Raise All In

Oct 19, 3:27 PM

I think we'll be able to see pretty quickly if Dabo is serious how he approaches the portal this year. If he is super aggressive and can land several players, I think the fans will cool down a bit.
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OrangeInlet12

Oct 19, 3:29 PM

2.5 weeks ago Dabo “its just the football stuff” more losses needed
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Clemsonu0219

Oct 19, 3:30 PM

We have plenty of money. Especially now with Rev Share. That’s not an issue. I mean, plenty have more, but it’s always been the case that other Programs have more resources than us.
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willtiger1234

Oct 19, 3:30 PM

OrangeInlet12 said:
2.5 weeks ago Dabo “its just the football stuff” more losses needed
They’re coming
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grilled124

Oct 19, 3:31 PM

cumatt said:
When did Dabo say there are major problems?
Right — I haven’t seen him insinuate this
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Big Don

Oct 19, 3:33 PM

padtigers said:
I would add that with some HCs getting the ax at some high level programs the player portal pool could be oozing with talent
No doubt
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metiger01

Oct 19, 3:34 PM

Big Don said:
in his program. similar to 2009 but different environment. No way he is gonna step down. He wants to rebuild the program he created. Question is can he do it. Will require getting rid of dead wood and spending major cash. Will require NIL coordination with multiple new coaches. Not many coaches have successfully rebuilt in the portal. Indy did but coach brought a good many players with him from JM. Cannot be a one year rebuild. Will be a lot of HC firings so there will be plenty of assistants in the portal but the competition for then will considerably raise cost. Who thinks he can do it and has the energy to do it?
What specifically did he admit?
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Big Don

Oct 19, 3:35 PM

OrangeInlet12 said:
2.5 weeks ago Dabo “its just the football stuff” more losses needed
He did and it just pissed people off. his tone and words IMO yesterday was different
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Big Don

Oct 19, 3:36 PM

padtigers said:
I would add that with some HCs getting the ax at some high level programs the player portal pool could be oozing with talent
It will be but just will raise cost for top players. Dabo needs to have a long discussion with Brent on using the portal
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Big Don

Oct 19, 3:37 PM

Raise All In said:
I think we'll be able to see pretty quickly if Dabo is serious how he approaches the portal this year. If he is super aggressive and can land several players, I think the fans will cool down a bit.
Agree....but they will not completely calm down til we win 10 again ,win ACC, and go to playoffs
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Big Don

Oct 19, 3:39 PM

Clemsonu0219 said:
We have plenty of money. Especially now with Rev Share. That’s not an issue. I mean, plenty have more, but it’s always been the case that other Programs have more resources than us.
Multiple schools NILs are now saying screw the rules we are gonna do what we want. We will not do that
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OrangeInlet12

Oct 19, 3:41 PM

Big Don said:
He did and it just pissed people off. his tone and words IMO yesterday was different
He is often like that immediately after losses. See my response to this in a different thread below. After Syracuse he was crying, didnt matter monday and tuesday new person. Post in thread 'Credit Larry Williams' https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/credit-larry-williams.8370660/post-173063458
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TigerDoc

Oct 19, 3:47 PM

Clemsonu0219 said:
We have plenty of money. Especially now with Rev Share. That’s not an issue. I mean, plenty have more, but it’s always been the case that other Programs have more resources than us.
Yes it is when you spend that money on retaining talent in the program at a low average level rather than on acquiring talent that is better than what you have. EFFORT is what I have the biggest problem with and yesterday was the first time I have ever seen a Dabo team come down the Hill with quit written all over them. Dabo needs to look at his team’s performance and realize that his investment in them is being repaid with garbage. Guts and toughness have been replaced with complacency and caviar.
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jackabee

Oct 19, 4:18 PM

OrangeInlet12 said:
2.5 weeks ago Dabo “its just the football stuff” more losses needed
If you think he’s going to say anything different to a bunch of fans and the clowns on this board then you need another hobby.
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SaltwaterTiger

Oct 19, 4:19 PM

TigerDoc said:
EFFORT is what I have the biggest problem with and yesterday was the first time I have ever seen a Dabo team come down the Hill with quit written all over them. Dabo needs to look at his team’s performance and realize that his investment in them is being repaid with garbage. Guts and toughness have been replaced with complacency and caviar.
Did you miss the Syracuse game? This isn’t a new development
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cedceb

Oct 19, 5:00 PM

I have consistently said this for years: Dabo is a slow learner.
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Clemsonu0219

Oct 19, 5:50 PM

TigerDoc said:
Yes it is when you spend that money on retaining talent in the program at a low average level rather than on acquiring talent that is better than what you have. EFFORT is what I have the biggest problem with and yesterday was the first time I have ever seen a Dabo team come down the Hill with quit written all over them. Dabo needs to look at his team’s performance and realize that his investment in them is being repaid with garbage. Guts and toughness have been replaced with complacency and caviar.
That’s not about the quantity of funds my friend. That’s a misappropriation of funds. Not the same.
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Clemson Goat

Oct 19, 5:59 PM

Big Don said:
in his program. similar to 2009 but different environment. No way he is gonna step down. He wants to rebuild the program he created. Question is can he do it. Will require getting rid of dead wood and spending major cash. Will require NIL coordination with multiple new coaches. Not many coaches have successfully rebuilt in the portal. Indy did but coach brought a good many players with him from JM. Cannot be a one year rebuild. Will be a lot of HC firings so there will be plenty of assistants in the portal but the competition for then will considerably raise cost. Who thinks he can do it and has the energy to do it?
What would Beamer do ? Asking for a friend
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pickenstiger

Oct 19, 6:02 PM

TigerDoc said:
Yes it is when you spend that money on retaining talent in the program at a low average level rather than on acquiring talent that is better than what you have. EFFORT is what I have the biggest problem with and yesterday was the first time I have ever seen a Dabo team come down the Hill with quit written all over them. Dabo needs to look at his team’s performance and realize that his investment in them is being repaid with garbage. Guts and toughness have been replaced with complacency and caviar.
Yep, no BYOG from the players on D this year save for Heldt and Sammy Brown. Let me know if I missed someone on D that BYOG
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tigerwoodnc

Oct 19, 7:56 PM

OrangeInlet12 said:
2.5 weeks ago Dabo “its just the football stuff” more losses needed
He was right. Big lack of talent and toughness. Plus average coaching at best.
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Cavitybacks

Oct 19, 7:59 PM

cedceb said:
I have consistently said this for years: Dabo is a slow learner.
He sure didn’t seem like it when he first got the job. He fixed Clemson football pretty dang immediately. He even had the academic types on his side, which had never happened at Clemson.

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