We already know the NCAA is a joke...

What does this have to do with the NCAA? This is y'all's new leadership making the call.

MizunoMP-33 said:

What does this have to do with the NCAA? This is y'all's new leadership making the call.

Pretty much everything the NCAA does is a joke in recent years. The judge's restraining order is bigger. Did that clear it up?

It's good for 6 days. Preliminary injunction hearing is set for Jan. 27.

LAReb10 said:

Pretty much everything the NCAA does is a joke in recent years. The judge's restraining order is bigger. Did that clear it up?

Everything they've done has been dictated by your new leaders, the lawyers and judges. They run the "sport" now. 100%. They don't have the first clue about the college game and don't care to. But they now run it completely.

eosiii said:

It's good for 6 days. Preliminary injunction hearing is set for Jan. 27.

Yay. Judge decides. Anybody know her name?

MizunoMP-33 said:

Everything they've done has been dictated by your new leaders, the lawyers and judges. They run the "sport" now. 100%. They don't have the first clue about the college game and don't care to. But they now run it completely.

Ok. Have a nice day.

The NCAA has lost most, if not all of their power. It is up to the conferences and their leadership to start policing their members. There are going to be continued lawsuits if weak men like Sankey, Jim Phillips, et. al. continue to turn a blind eye to aggregeous behavior by their members. This case, the kid is a professional basketball player. He made that decision and it didn't work out for him. It would be a non-issue if Alabama wasn't trying to skirt logic and get him on the team. That is not NCAA. That is Alabama knowing that Sankey doesn't have the balls to tell them NO. The whole system is currently built on the golf principles and is being administered by a bunch of guys that would make Bernie Madoff blush...see Lane Kiffin as the prime example.

ClubReb said:

The NCAA has lost most, if not all of their power. It is up to the conferences and their leadership to start policing their members. There are going to be continued lawsuits if weak men like Sankey, Jim Phillips, et. al. continue to turn a blind eye to aggregeous behavior by their members. This case, the kid is a professional basketball player. He made that decision and it didn't work out for him. It would be a non-issue if Alabama wasn't trying to skirt logic and get him on the team. That is not NCAA. That is Alabama knowing that Sankey doesn't have the balls to tell them NO. The whole system is currently built on the golf principles and is being administered by a bunch of guys that would make Bernie Madoff blush...see Lane Kiffin as the prime example.

The conferences have no power either. We've taken all of it away and put all the power in the hands of judges. The conferences cannot overrule judges and courts just like the NCAA cannot. Once we decided to take this out of the sports arena and into the legal arena all self regulation was lost. Now lawyers and judges will control everything in the sport. It's what we asked for forever, and now we have it.

"Hey, lets try and see if we can put all this toothpaste back in the tube......." Lololol.

MizunoMP-33 said:

The conferences have no power either. We've taken all of it away and put all the power in the hands of judges. The conferences cannot overrule judges and courts just like the NCAA cannot. Once we decided to take this out of the sports arena and into the legal arena all self regulation was lost. Now lawyers and judges will control everything in the sport. It's what we asked for forever, and now we have it.

Conferences cannot overrule judges but they can put enforceable rules on their members, thus avoiding courts. Alabama is 100% the villain in this game of signing a pro player. A friendly judge will always grant the injunction to allow for the court proceedings to play out, see Trinidad as an example in the coming days. NCAA rules do not have any teeth. SEC can put into place some very restrictive rules with penalties, etc. associated with them to govern just their members. Athletes have 5 for 5 PERIOD. Athletes sign a contract, you have to abide by said contract. Athletes sign a professional deal outside of the professional deal for your school (call it what it is), then you are not eligible for 5 for 5. *Imagine picking up Lebron because he has college eligibility and wants to give back to Ohio State?

ClubReb said:

Conferences cannot overrule judges but they can put enforceable rules on their members, thus avoiding courts. Alabama is 100% the villain in this game of signing a pro player. A friendly judge will always grant the injunction to allow for the court proceedings to play out, see Trinidad as an example in the coming days. NCAA rules do not have any teeth. SEC can put into place some very restrictive rules with penalties, etc. associated with them to govern just their members. Athletes have 5 for 5 PERIOD. Athletes sign a contract, you have to abide by said contract. Athletes sign a professional deal outside of the professional deal for your school (call it what it is), then you are not eligible for 5 for 5. *Imagine picking up Lebron because he has college eligibility and wants to give back to Ohio State?

ClubReb said:

Conferences cannot overrule judges but they can put enforceable rules on their members, thus avoiding courts. Alabama is 100% the villain in this game of signing a pro player. A friendly judge will always grant the injunction to allow for the court proceedings to play out, see Trinidad as an example in the coming days. NCAA rules do not have any teeth. SEC can put into place some very restrictive rules with penalties, etc. associated with them to govern just their members. Athletes have 5 for 5 PERIOD. Athletes sign a contract, you have to abide by said contract. Athletes sign a professional deal outside of the professional deal for your school (call it what it is), then you are not eligible for 5 for 5. *Imagine picking up Lebron because he has college eligibility and wants to give back to Ohio State?

There are so many things wrong with your post I don't know where to start First of all you are conflating Trinidad's request for a medical hardship with Alabama's request on the pro basketball player. That is one of the most disingenuous things Ive read in a while. Don't get me wrong numerous talking heads are doing the same and even some of our uninformed fans like @UnconfirmedSource are saying things similar. NCAA has ALWAYS had medical redshirts. Why when we are asking to do the same it suddenly is bad? TRINIDAD WOULD HAVE BEEN RUBBER STAMPED APPROVED if he was at Bama Aub, LSU MS State KY FL and just about every SEC school but OM.. As to the contracts dealing with NIL. NIL contracts are 3D PARTY CONTINGENCY contracts. They are CONDITIONAL on the 3d party , the Clearinghouse, approving the NIL deal. ONLY REVENUE SHARE contracts are approved. There is no specific performance in these athletic contracts. These players are not Roman gladiators where they either perform or die. The only way to "clean" this up is to have collective bargaining where if you lose a player to say LSU they must give Ole Miss something in return besides liquidated damages or rev share part of the contract. For example LSU must have their player roster reduced in a significant manner or something similar to punish them.

oxbow said:

There are so many things wrong with your post I don't know where to start First of all you are conflating Trinidad's request for a medical hardship with Alabama's request on the pro basketball player. That is one of the most disingenuous things Ive read in a while. Don't get me wrong numerous talking heads are doing the same and even some of our uninformed fans like @UnconfirmedSource are saying things similar. NCAA has ALWAYS had medical redshirts. Why when we are asking to do the same it suddenly is bad? TRINIDAD WOULD HAVE BEEN RUBBER STAMPED APPROVED if he was at Bama Aub, LSU MS State KY FL and just about every SEC school but OM.. As to the contracts dealing with NIL. NIL contracts are 3D PARTY CONTINGENCY contracts. They are CONDITIONAL on the 3d party , the Clearinghouse, approving the NIL deal. ONLY REVENUE SHARE contracts are approved. There is no specific performance in these athletic contracts. These players are not Roman gladiators where they either perform or die. The only way to "clean" this up is to have collective bargaining where if you lose a player to say LSU they must give Ole Miss something in return besides liquidated damages or rev share part of the contract. For example LSU must have their player roster reduced in a significant manner or something similar to punish them.

If you're going to tag me, at least be accurate with what I said. I said from the jump that I didn't expect Chambliss to get granted another year of eligibility. For the record, the staff and administration also had that same belief (as was reported here and on the 247 board). Once Tom Mars got involved and took the case, that sentiment swung pretty heavily for 2 reasons- A) Tom Mars doesn't take on cases he doesn't think can win and B) Tom Mars does not lose to the NCAA. I've also said from the jump that I very much hoped that I was wrong and that Trinidad is our starting QB next season. I fully acknowledge and recognize that you have a superbly difficult time with basic reading comprehension, so I won't hold it against you that you like to pretend that I was somehow rooting against Trinidad.

UnconfirmedSource said:

If you're going to tag me, at least be accurate with what I said. I said from the jump that I didn't expect Chambliss to get granted another year of eligibility. For the record, the staff and administration also had that same belief (as was reported here and on the 247 board). Once Tom Mars got involved and took the case, that sentiment swung pretty heavily for 2 reasons- A) Tom Mars doesn't take on cases he doesn't think can win and B) Tom Mars does not lose to the NCAA. I've also said from the jump that I very much hoped that I was wrong and that Trinidad is our starting QB next season. I fully acknowledge and recognize that you have a superbly difficult time with basic reading comprehension, so I won't hold it against you that you like to pretend that I was somehow rooting against Trinidad.

One you didn't previously mention anything about sentiment being a reason for Trinidad to lose his case. You said that Trinidad had no case and no avenue to prevail. Two when did you discuss with Tom Mars his criteria for taking legal cases both past and present? When was this meeting(s)? Where did the two of you talk about the criteria? We want specifics about your relationship with Tom Mars. Did you try to get Mr. Mars not to take the case? You said it was a loser case. Just out of your friendship with him you must have had serious reservations. he was taking this case..

oxbow said:

One you didn't previously mention anything about sentiment being a reason for Trinidad to lose his case. You said that Trinidad had no case and no avenue to prevail. Two when did you discuss with Tom Mars his criteria for taking legal cases both past and present? When was this meeting(s)? Where did the two of you talk about the criteria? We want specifics about your relationship with Tom Mars. Did you try to get Mr. Mars not to take the case? You said it was a loser case. Just out of your friendship with him you must have had serious reservations. he was taking this case..

You may truly be the most retarded person on this entire message board. It's a title that you shouldn't take lightly.

UnconfirmedSource said:

You may truly be the most retarded person on this entire message board. It's a title that you shouldn't take lightly.

lol GO READ YOUR OWN WORDS I JUST POSTED YOUR PREVIOUS THREAD YOU DUMBa$$ The thread TRINIDAD WAIVER

ClubReb said:

Conferences cannot overrule judges but they can put enforceable rules on their members, thus avoiding courts. Alabama is 100% the villain in this game of signing a pro player. A friendly judge will always grant the injunction to allow for the court proceedings to play out, see Trinidad as an example in the coming days. NCAA rules do not have any teeth. SEC can put into place some very restrictive rules with penalties, etc. associated with them to govern just their members. Athletes have 5 for 5 PERIOD. Athletes sign a contract, you have to abide by said contract. Athletes sign a professional deal outside of the professional deal for your school (call it what it is), then you are not eligible for 5 for 5. *Imagine picking up Lebron because he has college eligibility and wants to give back to Ohio State?

You can't "avoid the courts" when you get taken to court. It doesn't work like that. We brought the legal system in to run college sports, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. You FA you FO.

MizunoMP-33 said:

You can't "avoid the courts" when you get taken to court. It doesn't work like that. We brought the legal system in to run college sports, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. You FA you FO.

The NCAA brought themselves into the Courts.

oxbow said:

The NCAA brought themselves into the Courts.

They didn't sue themselves, brotha.

MizunoMP-33 said:

They didn't sue themselves, brotha.

Yes they did in fact. When an organization does not act in a lawful manner whether it is the Mob or the NCAA they should expect to be brought into Court. You do know the Alston and House cases weren't the first time the NCAA had been challenged in Court. This goes back for decades. It is just now the money has gotten so great that the players and their attorney's wouldn't take no for an answer and it was economically feasible to retain an attorney and even bring the IRS into it instead of the under the table money..

oxbow said:

There are so many things wrong with your post I don't know where to start First of all you are conflating Trinidad's request for a medical hardship with Alabama's request on the pro basketball player. That is one of the most disingenuous things Ive read in a while. Don't get me wrong numerous talking heads are doing the same and even some of our uninformed fans like @UnconfirmedSource are saying things similar. NCAA has ALWAYS had medical redshirts. Why when we are asking to do the same it suddenly is bad? TRINIDAD WOULD HAVE BEEN RUBBER STAMPED APPROVED if he was at Bama Aub, LSU MS State KY FL and just about every SEC school but OM.. As to the contracts dealing with NIL. NIL contracts are 3D PARTY CONTINGENCY contracts. They are CONDITIONAL on the 3d party , the Clearinghouse, approving the NIL deal. ONLY REVENUE SHARE contracts are approved. There is no specific performance in these athletic contracts. These players are not Roman gladiators where they either perform or die. The only way to "clean" this up is to have collective bargaining where if you lose a player to say LSU they must give Ole Miss something in return besides liquidated damages or rev share part of the contract. For example LSU must have their player roster reduced in a significant manner or something similar to punish them.

Unconfirmed and uninformed is a tough combination to beat. Just another one of McCready’s lemmings. Often wrong, but never in doubt and always deflecting and denying. Load that 777 for British Guyana and don’t forget to take the Flavor Aid.

UnconfirmedSource said:

If you're going to tag me, at least be accurate with what I said. I said from the jump that I didn't expect Chambliss to get granted another year of eligibility. For the record, the staff and administration also had that same belief (as was reported here and on the 247 board). Once Tom Mars got involved and took the case, that sentiment swung pretty heavily for 2 reasons- A) Tom Mars doesn't take on cases he doesn't think can win and B) Tom Mars does not lose to the NCAA. I've also said from the jump that I very much hoped that I was wrong and that Trinidad is our starting QB next season. I fully acknowledge and recognize that you have a superbly difficult time with basic reading comprehension, so I won't hold it against you that you like to pretend that I was somehow rooting against Trinidad.

Here’s a clue for you smart guy. No lawyer is undefeated. That honor only belongs to Rocky Marciano and beaver.

Buddy Bartholomew said:

Unconfirmed and uninformed is a tough combination to beat. Just another one of McCready’s lemmings. Often wrong, but never in doubt and always deflecting and denying. Load that 777 for British Guyana and don’t forget to take the Flavor Aid.

Nothing in this world gives me more self validation than you not liking me. Tells me I’m doing all the right things

UnconfirmedSource said:

Nothing in this world gives me more self validation than you not liking me. Tells me I’m doing all the right things

You’re not only uninformed, you are badly misinformed. You’re clueless. Maybe you can celebrate by self flagellating as well as self aggrandizing. Your insecurities are showing.