TRS - Trump Regret Syndrome

firegiver

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Dpic, If your point is that the bloom is off the rose with this administration, there are many, many who would agree. But, haven't you made this point, effectively, by now?
Have you disavowed the corruption of this administration? Can't recall you doing that.
How about Kushner profiting of the Israeli wars and genocide
 

dpic73

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isn't it against the law to employ illegal migrants?
TPS recipients are not considered illegal immigrants while they hold active status, which means they possess a lawful, government recognized temporary immigration status that protects them from deportation and grants them authorization to work and travel.

I understand what temporary means but that status shouldn't be removed when their home country is engaged in a civil war and being run by murderous gangs but that's what Trump did because he's cruel and inhumane.

A story came out last week about a 20 year old Haitian working in Springfield who was fitted with an ankle monitor while he awaited deportation and he committed suicide because he couldn't bear the humiliation and knowledge that he would be sent back to a country that has a Level 4: Do Not Travel advisory, which is the highest level of warning issued.

We used to be better than that.



"Burial service held for 20-year-old Haitian student who took his life in Springfield, his family says it happened after he was fitted with an ICE ankle monitor.

Hundreds gathered Saturday in Springfield, Ohio, for the funeral of Pierre Damas Bel, 20.

The Haitian immigrant and Wright State freshman was struck and killed Aug. 31 after he parked on the shoulder of I-70 westbound and walked into traffic.

After Haitian temporary protected status ended, ICE fitted him with a GPS ankle monitor. His father said Bel felt humiliated, told him classmates called him a criminal, and called that morning saying he was not okay because of the bullying.

Service was at St. John’s Missionary Baptist Church. Family, friends, and officials attended."
 

baltimorened

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TPS recipients are not considered illegal immigrants while they hold active status, which means they possess a lawful, government recognized temporary immigration status that protects them from deportation and grants them authorization to work and travel.

I understand what temporary means but that status shouldn't be removed when their home country is engaged in a civil war and being run by murderous gangs but that's what Trump did because he's cruel and inhumane.

A story came out last week about a 20 year old Haitian working in Springfield who was fitted with an ankle monitor while he awaited deportation and he committed suicide because he couldn't bear the humiliation and knowledge that he would be sent back to a country that has a Level 4: Do Not Travel advisory, which is the highest level of warning issued.

We used to be better than that.



"Burial service held for 20-year-old Haitian student who took his life in Springfield, his family says it happened after he was fitted with an ICE ankle monitor.

Hundreds gathered Saturday in Springfield, Ohio, for the funeral of Pierre Damas Bel, 20.

The Haitian immigrant and Wright State freshman was struck and killed Aug. 31 after he parked on the shoulder of I-70 westbound and walked into traffic.

After Haitian temporary protected status ended, ICE fitted him with a GPS ankle monitor. His father said Bel felt humiliated, told him classmates called him a criminal, and called that morning saying he was not okay because of the bullying.

Service was at St. John’s Missionary Baptist Church. Family, friends, and officials attended."

I wasn't aware that all of his employees were Haitians under TPS..

I have posted many times that we need to adjust our one size fits all policy into something more Common sense.
 
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dpic73

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One old lady says things have gotten so bad she has to figure out what canned food she can afford for supper.

 

PedMaller3

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Cracks me up when you libs post vids of a single person claiming things haven’t worked out for them, like it’s proof of some major point. 😂

Should I post a video saying how much my net worth continues to blow up….just like it did under Trump v1 & to a lesser extent, Sleepy Joe?
 

dpic73

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Cracks me up when you libs post vids of a single person claiming things haven’t worked out for them, like it’s proof of some major point. 😂

Should I post a video saying how much my net worth continues to blow up….just like it did under Trump v1 & to a lesser extent, Sleepy Joe?
Nine pages of people saying this dumbass. How pathetic of you to mock these people like they don't count, when you know their problems were intentionally caused by a President who doesn't give a single fu.ck about them.

It's embarrassing at this point for you 30 percenters to still be licking the taint of the worst president in history, by far, not to mention the most unpopular since polling began.

And you're f'ing lying if you're claiming your returns are better under Trump's second term than Biden's last two years. Lick, lick, lick...
 

PedMaller3

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Nine pages of people saying this dumbass. How pathetic of you to mock these people like they don't count, when you know their problems were intentionally caused by a President who doesn't give a single fu.ck about them.

It's embarrassing at this point for you 30 percenters to still be licking the taint of the worst president in history, by far, not to mention the most unpopular since polling began.

And you're f'ing lying if you're claiming your returns are better under Trump's second term than Biden's last two years. Lick, lick, lick...
Is that the CNN poll or the Selzer one? 😂
 
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baltimorened

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Nine pages of people saying this dumbass. How pathetic of you to mock these people like they don't count, when you know their problems were intentionally caused by a President who doesn't give a single fu.ck about them.

It's embarrassing at this point for you 30 percenters to still be licking the taint of the worst president in history, by far, not to mention the most unpopular since polling began.

And you're f'ing lying if you're claiming your returns are better under Trump's second term than Biden's last two years. Lick, lick, lick...
why do you only use biden's last two years instead of his entire term? I know, because if you took Bidens entire term and compare them just to Trump's first 1 3/4 years of trump's, a lot of us have higher dollar value returns in trump's.

If you want a fair comparison, we need to wait for the end of Trump's 4 years, and then we can compare.

In reality, there are so many economic/technological and geopolitical factors that are outside any presiden't control, that even trying to compare just leads to debates with no conclusion
 

dpic73

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why do you only use biden's last two years instead of his entire term? I know, because if you took Bidens entire term and compare them just to Trump's first 1 3/4 years of trump's, a lot of us have higher dollar value returns in trump's.

If you want a fair comparison, we need to wait for the end of Trump's 4 years, and then we can compare.

In reality, there are so many economic/technological and geopolitical factors that are outside any presiden't control, that even trying to compare just leads to debates with no conclusion
You're playing dumb Ned. Don't.
 

baltimorened

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of course there are people who are doing poorly during this administration, there were many in similar situations during biden's (which is why he was a 1 term president), trumps first term (which is why he was a 1 term prestident), Obama's, Bush 2's, clinton's and as far back as you'd like to go.

I for one get your point...all the posts about polls, all the posts of disgruntled trump voters, all the previous officials, would lead someone to believe that there are people who don't particularly like the trump administration. I get it!

Isn't that "horse about dead"? Isn't there another one we can start beating.

Why not get ahead of the curve? Start the victory dance about the democrat control of the house and Senate and start threads on what those chambers are going to do to bring down the cost of groceries and fuel, celebrate the convictions of the trump family mafia...we've already determined the outcome of 2026!
 

dpic73

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Why not get ahead of the curve? Start the victory dance about the democrat control of the house and Senate and start threads on what those chambers are going to do to bring down the cost of groceries and fuel, celebrate the convictions of the trump family mafia...we've already determined the outcome of 2026!
You're playing dumb Ned. Don't.
 

baltimorened

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You're playing dumb Ned. Don't.
well, I'm just suggesting a fair comparison...we all know why you use the last two years only...because the first years of Bident were fiscal losers for most of us. Yea, I know, COVID/shutdowns etc. But if you want to compare only 2 years, compare either the first 2 of each or the last 2 of each. who knows the last two years of trump's admin might well be worse than the last two of Biden's.

What dampens your argument in this area is that a lot of us are really ahead in Trump's first two years...even this year, so far I'm up over 6% compared to the end of 2025..I'd like to dream what could have been without the Iran "excursion", but I have to admit my dreams are about a multitude of other things.

Yep, I'm on the same page as you over campaign promises, the Iran war, the lies, the extreme aggregations, the bad housing market, high interest rates and many other trump issues. And I can understand why some people are disgruntled. And these people will likely vote Democrat....and I personally believe democrats will regain control of the house and possibly the senate. I also personally believe that they will not live up to the campaign promises they are making..like I posted in a separate post, there are lots of things outside their control that will limit their ability to deliver on those promises...that;s life.
 

PedMaller3

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Nine pages of people saying this dumbass. How pathetic of you to mock these people like they don't count, when you know their problems were intentionally caused by a President who doesn't give a single fu.ck about them.

It's embarrassing at this point for you 30 percenters to still be licking the taint of the worst president in history, by far, not to mention the most unpopular since polling began.

And you're f'ing lying if you're claiming your returns are better under Trump's second term than Biden's last two years. Lick, lick, lick...
Nice disclaimer to only count Biden’s last 2 years. In 2022, the US stock market lost almost 20%! 😂 🤡
 

dpic73

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well, I'm just suggesting a fair comparison...we all know why you use the last two years only...because the first years of Bident were fiscal losers for most of us. Yea, I know, COVID/shutdowns etc. But if you want to compare only 2 years, compare either the first 2 of each or the last 2 of each. who knows the last two years of trump's admin might well be worse than the last two of Biden's.

What dampens your argument in this area is that a lot of us are really ahead in Trump's first two years...even this year, so far I'm up over 6% compared to the end of 2025..I'd like to dream what could have been without the Iran "excursion", but I have to admit my dreams are about a multitude of other things.

Yep, I'm on the same page as you over campaign promises, the Iran war, the lies, the extreme aggregations, the bad housing market, high interest rates and many other trump issues. And I can understand why some people are disgruntled. And these people will likely vote Democrat....and I personally believe democrats will regain control of the house and possibly the senate. I also personally believe that they will not live up to the campaign promises they are making..like I posted in a separate post, there are lots of things outside their control that will limit their ability to deliver on those promises...that;s life.
Without the power of veto they can't make ironclad promises and that's not what they've done, so your argument is specious. And only noting that you're up since 2025 means nothing when we're talking about what should have been.

They have stated what their priorities are:


According to House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries, the central theme of the House Democrats' mid-term platform is "Fighting for an Affordable America," focused on economic relief and executive oversight if the party wins a majority. [1, 2]

First 100-Hour/100-Day Priorities
  • Healthcare Costs: Reinstating expired Affordable Care Act (ACA) tax credits and reversing Republican Medicaid cuts. [1]
  • Economy and Tariffs: Undoing President Donald Trump’s tariff regime and lowering household expenses related to groceries, gas, housing, and utilities. [1, 2]
  • Foreign Policy: Holding votes against the war in Iran. [1]
  • Reforms: Banning stock trading by members of Congress and the administration, and pushing for voting rights protections such as the John Robert Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act. [1]
Oversight and Accountability
  • Executive Check: Reasserting congressional appropriation authority and pushing back against unilateral executive actions.
  • Investigations: Investigating alleged corruption and pardons involving the administration, led by key committee Democrats like Jamie Raskin and Robert Garcia. [1, 2]

And since you're trying to hand wave away the obvious difference that Biden's first two years were defined by recovery from the worst pandemic in 100 years, I'll play your game and compare Biden's full-term compared to Trump's first two, but remember, Trump intentionally created the conditions that led to the steep decline in stock market gains. But we can revisit and compare again at the end of his term.


Index-by-Index Comparison Snapshot
  • S&P 500:
    • Biden (Full Term): ~56% – 65.4%
    • Trump (Second Term, ~1.5–1.8 years): ~26% – 31.3% [1, 2, 3]
  • Dow Jones Industrial Average:
    • Biden (Full Term): ~39.5%
    • Trump (Second Term, to Oct 2026): ~15.6% [1]
  • Nasdaq Composite:
    • Biden (Full Term): ~48.7%
    • Trump (Second Term): Up significantly off tech and sector rotations, though trailing its rapid pace in earlier cycles. [1]
Comparison - Biden vs Trump
 
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dpic73

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Nice disclaimer to only count Biden’s last 2 years. In 2022, the US stock market lost almost 20%! 😂 🤡
Full term punk

Index-by-Index Comparison Snapshot
  • S&P 500:
    • Biden (Full Term): ~56% – 65.4%
    • Trump (Second Term, ~1.5–1.8 years): ~26% – 31.3% [1, 2, 3]
  • Dow Jones Industrial Average:
    • Biden (Full Term): ~39.5%
    • Trump (Second Term, to Oct 2026): ~15.6% [1]
  • Nasdaq Composite:
    • Biden (Full Term): ~48.7%
    • Trump (Second Term): Up significantly off tech and sector rotations, though trailing its rapid pace in earlier cycles. [1]
 

PedMaller3

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Full term punk

Index-by-Index Comparison Snapshot
  • S&P 500:
    • Biden (Full Term): ~56% – 65.4%
    • Trump (Second Term, ~1.5–1.8 years): ~26% – 31.3% [1, 2, 3]
  • Dow Jones Industrial Average:
    • Biden (Full Term): ~39.5%
    • Trump (Second Term, to Oct 2026): ~15.6% [1]
  • Nasdaq Composite:
    • Biden (Full Term): ~48.7%
    • Trump (Second Term): Up significantly off tech and sector rotations, though trailing its rapid pace in earlier cycles. [1]
That’s better….you gotta include part of the huge run-up after the Covid lockdowns finally ended! 😂
 

baltimorened

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Without the power of veto they can't make ironclad promises and that's not what they've done, so your argument is specious. And only noting that you're up since 2025 means nothing when we're talking about what should have been.

They have stated what their priorities are:


According to House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries, the central theme of the House Democrats' mid-term platform is "Fighting for an Affordable America," focused on economic relief and executive oversight if the party wins a majority. [1, 2]

First 100-Hour/100-Day Priorities
  • Healthcare Costs: Reinstating expired Affordable Care Act (ACA) tax credits and reversing Republican Medicaid cuts. [1]
  • Economy and Tariffs: Undoing President Donald Trump’s tariff regime and lowering household expenses related to groceries, gas, housing, and utilities. [1, 2]
  • Foreign Policy: Holding votes against the war in Iran. [1]
  • Reforms: Banning stock trading by members of Congress and the administration, and pushing for voting rights protections such as the John Robert Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act. [1]
Oversight and Accountability
  • Executive Check: Reasserting congressional appropriation authority and pushing back against unilateral executive actions.
  • Investigations: Investigating alleged corruption and pardons involving the administration, led by key committee Democrats like Jamie Raskin and Robert Garcia. [1, 2]

And since you're trying to hand wave away the obvious difference that Biden's first two years were defined by recovery from the worst pandemic in 100 years, I'll play your game and compare Biden's full-term compared to Trump's first two, but remember, Trump intentionally created the conditions that led to the steep decline in stock market gains. But we can revisit and compare again at the end of his term.


Index-by-Index Comparison Snapshot
  • S&P 500:
    • Biden (Full Term): ~56% – 65.4%
    • Trump (Second Term, ~1.5–1.8 years): ~26% – 31.3% [1, 2, 3]
  • Dow Jones Industrial Average:
    • Biden (Full Term): ~39.5%
    • Trump (Second Term, to Oct 2026): ~15.6% [1]
  • Nasdaq Composite:
    • Biden (Full Term): ~48.7%
    • Trump (Second Term): Up significantly off tech and sector rotations, though trailing its rapid pace in earlier cycles. [1]
Comparison - Biden vs Trump
you and I know that the Democrat house can't pass what the causes is proposing...but that's what they're telling the American people they will do in the first 100days. So they can't reinstate Medicare cuts, and can't restore extended ACA subsidies and cant' do all the lower cost things. So they're not making ironclad promises but they're telling the American people that intend to do something that they know that can't accomplish...

Now I'm not comparing trump campaign promises - which we knew he couldn't do with campaign to do's that they know they can't do. My point is that making commitments that they know they can't accomplish is a politician thing. Down in Florida we have a Republicn running from Congress promising to work for better soning laws and lower insurance costs - both state or local issues....but he knows that 1. the issues are important in Florida, and 2. voters don't understand the difference between federal and state and local government responsibilities.

Good analysis on the market returns. We'll have to wait until Jan 20 2029 to make comparisons on the term.
 

dpic73

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you and I know that the Democrat house can't pass what the causes is proposing...but that's what they're telling the American people they will do in the first 100days. So they can't reinstate Medicare cuts, and can't restore extended ACA subsidies and cant' do all the lower cost things. So they're not making ironclad promises but they're telling the American people that intend to do something that they know that can't accomplish...

Now I'm not comparing trump campaign promises - which we knew he couldn't do with campaign to do's that they know they can't do. My point is that making commitments that they know they can't accomplish is a politician thing. Down in Florida we have a Republicn running from Congress promising to work for better soning laws and lower insurance costs - both state or local issues....but he knows that 1. the issues are important in Florida, and 2. voters don't understand the difference between federal and state and local government responsibilities.

Good analysis on the market returns. We'll have to wait until Jan 20 2029 to make comparisons on the term.
How is this different than any mid-term plan from the party not currently in power? You try to make it sound like this particular takeover is somehow different than past mid-term promises. Do you remember Newt Gingrich and the Contract with America? They didn't know they could implement their plan but it was important for their voters to understand they had a plan that they hoped to implement if given power. No difference here, putting pressure on this admin, something the Republicans aren't doing, is better than having no plan to do anything. I don't understand why you keep pushing this narrative like you think they're lying.

What would their message need to be to please you?
 

Scrubby

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She's a legend!


Literally one person liked the post you shared and you called her a legend lolol

the cult is floundering so hard in this thread. Funny how it’s all white dudes for Harris on here posting about this alleged buyers remorse. Almost like the whole thread premise is fake and gay (just like dpic)
 
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dpic73

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Literally one person liked the post you shared and you called her a legend lolol

the cult is floundering so hard in this thread. Funny how it’s all white dudes for Harris on here posting about this alleged buyers remorse. Almost like the whole thread premise is fake and gay (just like dpic)
You're smarter than that

Here's one with ~ 15,000 and there's many others. Better?



How are you so comfortable insulting anonymous posters that you don't know? Do you talk like this to people you don't know in person? I can promise you wouldn't say that to me and you can take that to the bank as.shole.
 

Scrubby

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You're smarter than that

Here's one with ~ 15,000 and there's many others. Better?



How are you so comfortable insulting anonymous posters that you don't know? Do you talk like this to people you don't know in person? I can promise you wouldn't say that to me and you can take that to the bank as.shole.

“She’s a legend!!!” Lol

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baltimorened

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How is this different than any mid-term plan from the party not currently in power? You try to make it sound like this particular takeover is somehow different than past mid-term promises. Do you remember Newt Gingrich and the Contract with America? They didn't know they could implement their plan but it was important for their voters to understand they had a plan that they hoped to implement if given power. No difference here, putting pressure on this admin, something the Republicans aren't doing, is better than having no plan to do anything. I don't understand why you keep pushing this narrative like you think they're lying.

What would their message need to be to please you?
sorry you got that impression...both parties do it. Deceiving the American people with "false promises" is part of the American political process.

I think I compare comments from both yourself and others who bring up Trump's campaign lies - like ending the war on day 1, or ending inflation on day 1 - things we know were not possible but " a plan he hoped to implement if given power". And t hen we call him a liar. We all know that a president is dependent on Congress to create laws

But somehow we see the same things, maybe not as definitive, but definitely encouraging votes to "restore Medicaid cuts and the expanded subsidies for the ACA" ...things they know they can't do, and we refer to them as "hopes to implement if given power". And, we defend them, as you are doing here, as a means to influence voters.

I don't want you to have the impression that this is a one sided thing. Both parties do it. And even though we know that supporters - again of both parties - push the narratives as if they're real. I just think it's unique to see folks - again, to be clear not just one side, try to highlight all the changes the other party is going to bring knowing full well that they don't have the power to accomplish what they are proposing.

So, don't you think that by "publishing" their 100 day agenda which includes the Medicaid restoration and the expanded ACA subsidies, democrats are not trying to influence voters? I do, and I'm not blaming Democrat leaders for saying these things...I'd do the same thing. But we know they won't have the power to accomplish either of those actions. But look at trump...he's going to give us $5000 if Republicans maintain control . Why, because he wants to influence voters. (seen that before, in this same paragraph) He doesn't have the power to do it but its "something he hopes to do" if Republicans maintain power. So I, I've seen numerous posts on here about trump trying to influence voters with his $5000 promise - which he doesn't have the power to do. I haven't seen many about Democrats trying to influence voters with their proposals - which they don't have the power to do.

I guess I've been around this block so many times and had so many conversations with sitting members of Congress about this topic of campaign "promises" I see them for what they are. And you're 100% correct...they are "hopes". But not necessarily in the way you might think....they are "hopes" of the electorate. It's what voters want to hear....so you tell them you're going to solve the their greatest problems....nowadays it's affordability, lower prices...even to the point of stopping a merger of mayonnaise companies to protect consumers. Again, both sides do it. So are we going to see lower prices of groceries, are Medicaid cuts going to be restored or ACA subsidies restored if Democrats control the house and Senate? You and I both know the answer to that.

To answer your question about what message would please me? I'd like to see honesty, transparency, accountability from our elected officials. I personally vote on the basis of policy not personality or promises. If a candidate tells me he's going to restore my Medicaid benefits, I want to know how....specifically...he's going to get the votes in both the house and Senate and overcome a presidential veto to make that happen. Otherwise he's just patting voters on the head and saying "trust me" as he prepares the rationalization for the next campaign on why he didn't accomplish what he said he would. I'd bet he won't tell them that his earlier statements were just "hopes"
 
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