A different time

[Halldan]

This is why between the lines Mickey Mantle was a player I tried to emulate. It was never about him on the field. He never called attention to himself.

Younger fans won't understand that and I understand because in their era it's all about the brand of the athlete.

 

[PhishingPirate088]

This is why between the lines Mickey Mantle was a player I tried to emulate. It was never about him on the field. He never called attention to himself.

Younger fans won't understand that and I understand because in their era it's all about the brand of the athlete.

I have family that has worked in baseball for almost 30 years

And I am so sick of hearing and reading this romanticized crap every other day here

It’s too much

 

[SHUSource]

Things change, and people change with them. I don't tend to go for this sort of stuff, but don't dwell much on it, either.

That said, even the first base coach had his arms out like, "WTF is this?"

 

[Halldan]

I don't expect most fans who are far younger than I to agree. They have been brought up in an era of look at me ESPN highlights. Back when I was growing up few if anyone would make a spectacle of hitting a homerun, scoring a touchdown, etc. But that's long gone and romanticize or not that's what I admired about sports.

And that's not to say we didn't have our Gibson's, Drysdale's or Duren's who thought nothing about head hunting from the mound, but back then they were the exceptions. Sportsmanship is now mostly dead. And at least for me that's sad.

 

[Seton75]

Gibby and Drysdsle, and less stringent umping were a large part of the reason.

 

[Halldan]

And the fact they never had to bat!

 

[Piratz]

I guess the players don’t care to be showed up anymore.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

I don't expect most fans who are far younger than I to agree. They have been brought up in an era of look at me ESPN highlights. Back when I was growing up few if anyone would make a spectacle of hitting a homerun, scoring a touchdown, etc. But that's long gone and romanticize or not that's what I admired about sports.

And that's not to say we didn't have our Gibson's, Drysdale's or Duren's who thought nothing about head hunting from the mound, but back then they were the exceptions. Sportsmanship is now mostly dead. And at least for me that's sad.

ESPN shows highlights?

 

[PhishingPirate088]

Jeez, “remember when is the lowest form of sports conversation on the planet”

I’ll guarantee you..you could find someone from the Cobb era who ripped mantle and his era for whatever was en vogue in the 50s and 60s

Also, just for fun because I don’t even agree with it but whatever, I’ll be one or the guys that eras should be left alone and not compared it’s a waste of time..I’ll say it’s debatable if mantle would even make this era

How about that

 

[PhishingPirate088]

I don't expect most fans who are far younger than I to agree. They have been brought up in an era of look at me ESPN highlights. Back when I was growing up few if anyone would make a spectacle of hitting a homerun, scoring a touchdown, etc. But that's long gone and romanticize or not that's what I admired about sports.

And that's not to say we didn't have our Gibson's, Drysdale's or Duren's who thought nothing about head hunting from the mound, but back then they were the exceptions. Sportsmanship is now mostly dead. And at least for me that's sad.

Sportsmanship is now mostly dead is a ridiculous statement..haha wow..can’t wait for this season to start

 

[NIL BAD]

Blasphemy. The healthy Mick was a better version of Mike Trout. The hurt Mick would still be a better version of Stanton.
Don't forget, they didn't have the DH when he played

 

[HallX2]

Today’s players are basically jacka@@es

 

[PhishingPirate088]

Blasphemy. The healthy Mick was a better version of Mike Trout. The hurt Mick would still be a better version of Stanton.
Don't forget, they didn't have the DH when he played

lol ok exactly my point..maybe and maybe not

Don’t forget he didn’t play nearly any African Americans, Dominicans, Japanese (who you can argue are the best pitcher and best hitter in mlb right now)

But leave that aside, how about: how would he have dealt with: TMZ, twitter, wFan, reporters looking to NAIL him not be his buddy

How would the boozing, womanizing, lapsed fatherhood play out in the media when it’s not trying to protect him but hunting him

He also didn’t play with the specialist reliever

As I said it’s pointless and a waste of time

He’s one of the greatest players ever in his era that should be good enough

 

[HALL85]

It’s a different time and a different game. The money, media, gambling, etc has had a dramatic effect on the game as well as what qualifies as sportsmanship. It’s also a function of generation and when you were in your youth.

It’s natural for someone in their 60’s or 70’s to relate to today’s game. I play golf with a guy that started 265 MLB games over 11 seasons and pitched 62 COMPLETE GAMES and his highest salary was $32,000…let that sink in. Different game.

It’s not romanticizing; it’s what I grew up with and it made an impression. It was pure sport; now it’s entertainment and a sport. One is no better than the other. Apples and oranges.

 

[Bluebeard]

To me it’s mind boggling to anyone who watches “ Professional wrestling”and call it a sport. I don’t care what era or year.

 

[Fishjam]

Caminero's act was ridiculous. It was a 340-foot homer that hit the foul pole in the 7th inning, his team was already up 3-1. That's not how you act in that situation.

I also don't like the ridiculous dugout celebrations of putting on Troll masks or ugly jackets for every HR hit including when your team is getting beat.

But I don't let it effect my enjoyment of the game. Baseball is still a great game, the players do amazing things and the antics are more a product of our times. There is performance and idiocy in all walks of life. Everywhere you turn - "media", internet, politics, protests and propaganda everywhere. Baseball is still relatively square compared to everything else.

 

[NCAAsorBust]

Gibby and Drysdsle, and less stringent umping were a large part of the reason.

Bingo!!! One of the great lines in Field of Dreams is "watch out for in your ear"

 

[Fishjam]

It’s a different time and a different game. The money, media, gambling, etc has had a dramatic effect on the game as well as what qualifies as sportsmanship. It’s also a function of generation and when you were in your youth.

It’s natural for someone in their 60’s or 70’s to relate to today’s game. I play golf with a guy that started 265 MLB games over 11 seasons and pitched 62 COMPLETE GAMES and his highest salary was $32,000…let that sink in. Different game.

It’s not romanticizing; it’s what I grew up with and it made an impression. It was pure sport; now it’s entertainment and a sport. One is no better than the other. Apples and oranges.

Fat Jack? His 32 grand in the 50s is probably equivalent to about $400,000-500,000 in salary today. Nice living but below today's minimum salary of $780k.

 

[SPK145]

Caminero's act was ridiculous. It was a 340-foot homer that hit the foul pole in the 7th inning, his team was already up 3-1. That's not how you act in that situation.

I also don't like the ridiculous dugout celebrations of putting on Troll masks or ugly jackets for every HR hit including when your team is getting beat.

But I don't let it effect my enjoyment of the game. Baseball is still a great game, the players do amazing things and the antics are more a product of our times. There is performance and idiocy in all walks of life. Everywhere you turn - "media", internet, politics, protests and propaganda everywhere. Baseball is still relatively square compared to everything else.

Did you ever do a home run dance for Seton Hall?

 

[batts]

This is why between the lines Mickey Mantle was a player I tried to emulate. It was never about him on the field. He never called attention to himself.

Younger fans won't understand that and I understand because in their era it's all about the brand of the athlete.

I heard the Mick state the reason why he never celebrated his homeruns in front of the pitcher. He said something humbly and folksy to the effect: "I figure that the piticher was already sore enough so I didn't want to rub it in and have him take it out of me on my next at bat."

 

[Seton75]

Caminero's act was ridiculous. It was a 340-foot homer that hit the foul pole in the 7th inning, his team was already up 3-1. That's not how you act in that situation.

I also don't like the ridiculous dugout celebrations of putting on Troll masks or ugly jackets for every HR hit including when your team is getting beat.

But I don't let it effect my enjoyment of the game. Baseball is still a great game, the players do amazing things and the antics are more a product of our times. There is performance and idiocy in all walks of life. Everywhere you turn - "media", internet, politics, protests and propaganda everywhere. Baseball is still relatively square compared to everything else.

I am not NYY fan, but I got goosebumps walking into The Micks bar on Central Park South to get a beer after work. Does anyone remember the uni behind the glass, was it The Babe's or Gehrig's...Did a search, said it was Yogi's.

FB is the worst with the celebrating. A guys team is down 14 in the 2nd Q. He breaks a tackle on 2nd down, gains three making it 3rd and 7. And he prances like he just broke a 50 yd run to win the Super Bowl.

I agree, while some hr trot are obnoxious, bbasevall is the least offensive.

 

[MichiganStoleTitle]

I am not NYY fan, but I got goosebumps walking into The Micks bar on Central Park South to get a beer after work. Does anyone remember the uni behind the glass, was it The Babe's or Gehrig's...Did a search, said it was Yogi's.

FB is the worst with the celebrating. A guys team is down 14 in the 2nd Q. He breaks a tackle on 2nd down, gains three making it 3rd and 7. And he prances like he just broke a 50 yd run to win the Super Bowl.

I agree, while some hr trot are obnoxious, bbasevall is the least offensive.

 

[Seton75]

Good call. But I bet college refs missed other ones last week lol.

 

[shu67]

Mick also played on one leg. A lot of the players did not sit out games if they were not 100%. Today's players sit and go on the IL if they get a splinter.

 

[Fishjam]

Did you ever do a home run dance for Seton Hall?

Never had an at bat unfortunately. was a pitcher. At most a little staredown and fist bump after a strikeout or a Save and then go high-five with teammates. Thats how we did it in the 90s.

The Old Man would kill someone if they did a HR dance. He was as old-school as they come. One of his favorite quotes was "I'm from the time when bats were Wood, and Men were made of Steel." Not the other way around.

He also had a 10-step rule. You hustled at top speed for 10 steps after you were out on a flyball or a ball went over the fence.

 

[HALL85]

Fat Jack? His 32 grand in the 50s is probably equivalent to about $400,000-500,000 in salary today. Nice living but below today's minimum salary of $780k.

His last year was 1969, so not quite. And owners had much more leverage back then. He was released one day short of quality for a pension.

Remember players also had jobs during the offseason or played winter ball.

Trivia…he was also the starting QB on his HS football team (Augusta, GA) who played Athens, GA HS for the state championship. Their starting QB was….Fran Tarkenton.

 

[HALL85]

I am not NYY fan, but I got goosebumps walking into The Micks bar on Central Park South to get a beer after work. Does anyone remember the uni behind the glass, was it The Babe's or Gehrig's...Did a search, said it was Yogi's.

FB is the worst with the celebrating. A guys team is down 14 in the 2nd Q. He breaks a tackle on 2nd down, gains three making it 3rd and 7. And he prances like he just broke a 50 yd run to win the Super Bowl.

I agree, while some hr trot are obnoxious, bbasevall is the least offensive.

How about the congratulations for making a foul shot??

 

[Fishjam]

How about the congratulations for making a foul shot??

Even give congratulations when you miss.

 

[batts]

The homerun celebrations in the dugouts where the hitter wears a stupid hat or mask are absolutely embarrasing. As a Yankee fan, I cringe when I see the players doing a ridiculous up-and-down dance and high fiving in the dugout after a homerun. DiMaggio and Mantle must be rolling in their graves watching that nonsense.

 

[SPK145]

Act like you’ve been there before.