“Conservatives,” meaning Republicans, block Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill. 😲

Gunny46

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Dedpoops24/7 and/or sammyk (whichever you are), what exactly are the Trump lies? Please provide them

Let's all agree that inciting violence against the President of the United States isn't just illegal but a good way to draw unwanted attention to everyone who participates on the board. Freedom of speech only covers bitching about polices. It doesn't cover inciting insane nutjobs to react. Nobody here would want their loved ones to endure that either.
 

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I didn't grow up in West Virginia, I only attended College at WVU. I'm from New York (Buffalo) and I've cast exactly 1 ONE Democrat vote in my entire life. I've lived in Texas, California, West Virginia (of course) and now here in Georgia where I've lived for the last 33 years.

Did you know the Democrat party was the author of Jim Crow here in the South, as well as the Party of the Ku Klux Klan of which Sen Byrd was a card carrying member?

Probably not. So here's some history for you of the Democrat party you probably have never been informed of, as well as the esteemed Robert C. Byrd .



Democrats' favorite Klan member includes selective amnesia

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Democrats attempt to play the race card. The race card and victim politics is a key part of the election playbook for Democrats throughout America. It is therefore puzzling that one of the biggest Democratic heroes in the U.S. Senate was Robert C. Byrd from West Virginia, who not only was in the Ku Klux Klan but presided over the Council of the Centaurs as Exalted Cyclops when he was in his mid-20s. During the time that Byrd played a leadership role in the Klan, the KKK was both anti-black and anti-Jewish.


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In the early 1940s, Byrd recruited 150 of his friends and associates to create a new chapter of the Ku Klux Klan in Sophia, West Virginia.[12][16]

As a young boy, Byrd had witnessed his adoptive father walk in a Klan parade in Matoaka, West Virginia.[27] While growing up, Byrd had heard that "the Klan defended the American way of life against racemixers and communists".[28] He then wrote to Joel L. Baskin, Grand Dragon of the Realm of Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, and Delaware, who responded that he would come and organize a chapter when Byrd had recruited 150 people.[27]

It was Baskin who told Byrd, "You have a talent for leadership, Bob … The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation". Byrd later recalled, "Suddenly lights flashed in my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities!
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And I was raised in a Republican household. I voted for Reagan twice and both Bush’s. Obama was the first time I voted for a democratic president. I liked John McCain, but Sarah Palin was strange, so I went with who I felt was the best at the time. And contrary to what Donny says, John McCain is an American HERO. I find what Trump says about him completely disgusting and disgraceful. And as you know by now, I voted Biden and Harris BECAUSE… I find Trump to be a lying, narcissist, dictator and scoundrel. And I find some of his policies insanely STUPID and divisive. Tariffs, Isolationism, protectionism, racism, are NOT what makes America Great. The People Do. Good People.
 

Gunny46

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And I was raised in a Republican household. I voted for Reagan twice and both Bush’s. Obama was the first time I voted for a democratic president. I liked John McCain, but Sarah Palin was strange, so I went with who I felt was the best at the time. And contrary to what Donny says, John McCain is an American HERO. I find what Trump says about him completely disgusting and disgraceful. And as you know by now, I voted Biden and Harris BECAUSE… I find Trump to be a lying, narcissist, dictator and scoundrel. And I find some of his policies insanely STUPID and divisive. Tariffs, Isolationism, protectionism, racism, are NOT what makes America Great. The People Do. Good People.

You are so full of ****. You are not old enough to have voted for RR.
 

ThePunish-EER

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I stand by EVERYTHING I wrote. Enjoy that 1% savings while reducing the federal government to an inefficient, ineffective shell. Well done. And while we’re at it, let’s tackle welfare and Medicaid. Those programs actually DO comprise a LARGE portion of the budget. Doing a quick Google search, I notice that West Virginia is #12 on the list of states with the highest welfare recipients and #5 on the list of Medicaid recipients. Maybe we should just cut West Virginia out of the budget. 😂 And before some radical, MAGA idiot jumps on me for that comment, I’m Just Joking!! 😆 I love the Mountain State. I love WVU. I go to battle for you daily. LGM
You’re such a simpleton lol. Bringing and creating jobs that pay well is the answer. Low to no tax on corporations brings jobs back to the United States. It also allows small businesses to startup and thrive. This creates more revenue within the United States by getting people back to work. It reduces taxes by getting people off of government assistance. It also allows people to afford housing, food, and other necessities. It’s really common sense.
 

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You are so full of ****. You are not old enough to have voted for RR.
Again, Gunny, you know NOTHING about me. I graduated from WVU in 1982. You can’t judge a book by its cover. I am in great physical and mental shape due to inheriting Great Genes from my parents and a healthy and active lifestyle. Sorry to burst your bubble and prove you wrong AGAIN. I’m a whole lot WISER than you think.
 

ThePunish-EER

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Again, Gunny, you know NOTHING about me. I graduated from WVU in 1982. You can’t judge a book by its cover. I am in great physical and mental shape due to inheriting Great Genes from my parents and a healthy and active lifestyle. Sorry to burst your bubble and prove you wrong AGAIN. I’m a whole lot WISER than you think.
Claiming to be wise while posting stupid and misinformed opinions does not convince anyone. You’re not smart man. Your posts prove this.
 

Gunny46

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Again, Gunny, you know NOTHING about me. I graduated from WVU in 1982. You can’t judge a book by its cover. I am in great physical and mental shape due to inheriting Great Genes from my parents and a healthy and active lifestyle. Sorry to burst your bubble and prove you wrong AGAIN. I’m a whole lot WISER than you think.

Stop lying goofball. You barely graduated WVU in mid 90's. You should sue for a refund. Not convinced you learned how to wipe your own ***.
 

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I stand by EVERYTHING I wrote. Enjoy that 1% savings while reducing the federal government to an inefficient, ineffective shell. Well done. And while we’re at it, let’s tackle welfare and Medicaid. Those programs actually DO comprise a LARGE portion of the budget. Doing a quick Google search, I notice that West Virginia is #12 on the list of states with the highest welfare recipients and #5 on the list of Medicaid recipients. Maybe we should just cut West Virginia out of the budget. 😂 And before some radical, MAGA idiot jumps on me for that comment, I’m Just Joking!! 😆 I love the Mountain State. I love WVU. I go to battle for you daily. LGM
Acting like government has been efficient or effective in the past is very comical. The government being useless is why we needed doge. 37 trillion the the clue that government has been horrible.
S.S is the best example of government inefficient ways and lies, corruption fraud and abuse .
Socialism kills every country then add in the fraud in those socialists policies...
 

ThePunish-EER

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Acting like government has been efficient or effective in the past is very comical. The government being useless is why we needed doge. 37 trillion the the clue that government has been horrible.
S.S is the best example of government inefficient ways and lies, corruption fraud and abuse .
Socialism kills every country then add in the fraud in those socialists policies...
Exactly. Imagine a major corporation 37 trillion in debt. Is that indicative of success? It would’ve filed bankruptcy decades ago.
 

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You’re such a simpleton lol. Bringing and creating jobs that pay well is the answer. Low to no tax on corporations brings jobs back to the United States. It also allows small businesses to startup and thrive. This creates more revenue within the United States by getting people back to work. It reduces taxes by getting people off of government assistance. It also allows people to afford housing, food, and other necessities. It’s really common sense.
Dude, you’re using my term. Love it. 😆 What you are proposing is Trickle Down economics from the Ronald Reagan/David Stockman era. All good ideas in theory but there is little evidence it actually produced the economic results it proposed. Obviously the Reagan years were some of the most prosperous in American history, and I voted for Reagan, but I would argue there were other factors that contributed more to the success of this country than Trickle Down Economics.
 

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Dude, you’re using my term. Love it. 😆 What you are proposing is Trickle Down economics from the Ronald Reagan/David Stockman era. All good ideas in theory but there is little evidence it actually produced the economic results it proposed. Obviously the Reagan years were some of the most prosperous in American history, and I voted for Reagan, but I would argue there were other factors that contributed more to the success of this country than Trickle Down Economics.
So you agree with Trumps policies? Good. You propose Reagan policies and say they worked. Then refute yourself by saying there’s no proof it worked. What a goofball lol
 

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Stop lying goofball. You barely graduated WVU in mid 90's. You should sue for a refund. Not convinced you learned how to wipe your own ***.
You are just WRONG. Accept it. Not to brag but I am in great physical shape and I thank God for my health and wellbeing. And my parents for providing me with great genes.
 

Gunny46

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Dude, you’re using my term. Love it. 😆 What you are proposing is Trickle Down economics from the Ronald Reagan/David Stockman era. All good ideas in theory but there is little evidence it actually produced the economic results it proposed. Obviously the Reagan years were some of the most prosperous in American history, and I voted for Reagan, but I would argue there were other factors that contributed more to the success of this country than Trickle Down Economics.

It's not 1980 anymore. That's your problem. You keep trying to debate like it's the 80's and 90's and the Bush and Clinton's are still relevant. Trump beat both families.
 

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Like calling him Dictator Donny?
If you consider my actions to be equal to his, then ok. You got me on that one. Childish on my part but intended to be humorous. My bad, one point for you. Congratulations.
 

Gunny46

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You are just WRONG. Accept it. Not to brag but I am in great physical shape and I thank God for my health and wellbeing. And my parents for providing me with great genes..

I would be believe you were a real Italian before I would believe that nonsense and you definitely are not convincing me of that.
 

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I would be believe you were a real Italian before I would believe that nonsense and you definitely are not convincing me of that.
Do you want me to show you my driver’s license? 😆 I’m not going to, of course, but seriously?
 

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And I was raised in a Republican household. I voted for Reagan twice and both Bush’s. Obama was the first time I voted for a democratic president. I liked John McCain, but Sarah Palin was strange, so I went with who I felt was the best at the time. And contrary to what Donny says, John McCain is an American HERO. I find what Trump says about him completely disgusting and disgraceful. And as you know by now, I voted Biden and Harris BECAUSE… I find Trump to be a lying, narcissist, dictator and scoundrel. And I find some of his policies insanely STUPID and divisive. Tariffs, Isolationism, protectionism, racism, are NOT what makes America Great. The People Do. Good People.
Name one "racist" Trump policy. 100% guaranteed you cannot. You sound just like all the media mind numbed Blacks I run into who claim Trump "hates" Black people. So I ask them, name the worst policy of Trump's you think has done the most harm to Black folks like us.

Silence. Just like yours will be when you refuse to provide one racist policy Trump has either promoted or had passed into legislation.

Can anyone on the Left here help @Cheers out naming just one Trump racist policy?
 

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Name one "racist" Trump policy. 100% guaranteed you cannot. You sound just like all the media mind numbed Blacks I run into who claim Trump "hates" Black people. So I ask them, name the worst policy of Trump's you think has done the most harm to Black folks like us.

Silence. Just like yours will be when you refuse to provide one racist policy Trump has either promoted or had passed into legislation.

Can anyone on the Left here help @Cheers out naming just one Trump racist policy?

Trump Signs EO Banning All Muslims
 

atlkvb

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Please explain how this is "racist"? OK, if Muslims are "banned" why I am I living next door to one? 🤔

One of the other posters in this thread said you weren't very smart, that guy nailed you!

Racist Definition: (Webster's)

Racism, is the belief that humans may be divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called 'races'; that there is a causal link between inherited physical traits and traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural and behavioral features; and that some races are innately superior to others.



 

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Gentlemen, I need to go and get some chores done and I recommend you do the same. It’s been a pleasure debating with you as always. Some really funny 😆 stuff on this forum. I do respect your right to your opinions. I just don’t happen to agree with all of them. Have a great day.
 

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He signed an EO that didn't allow Islamic Jihadist in. Did you not pay attention to last week. He just spent a week doing deals with countries giving them an opportunity to reset relations.
I knew he couldn't name one racist policy Trump has promoted. "Banning Muslims"....:rolleyes:
 

atlkvb

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Gentlemen, I need to go and get some chores done and I recommend you do the same. It’s been a pleasure debating with you as always. Some really funny 😆 stuff on this forum. I do respect your right to your opinions. I just don’t happen to agree with all of them. Have a great day.
Yes please go. Good grief.
 

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Gentlemen, I need to go and get some chores done and I recommend you do the same. It’s been a pleasure debating with you as always. Some really funny 😆 stuff on this forum. I do respect your right to your opinions. I just don’t happen to agree with all of them. Have a great day.
I guess you’re gonna dodge my questions earlier? lol.
 

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I knew he couldn't name one racist policy Trump has promoted. "Banning Muslims"....:rolleyes:

I'm not particularly fond of Muslims but they weren't exactly that excited to be around me either. So it equals out. As long as they don't break out the Jihad or Sharia we can tolerate each other.
 

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I guess you’re gonna dodge my questions earlier? lol.
He runs off like all Leftists do once their lunacy and idiotic reasoning gets exposed. You nailed him earlier saying he wasn't very smart. That said it all!
 

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I'm not particularly fond of Muslims but they weren't exactly that excited to be around me either. So it equals out.
My Muslim neighbor is actually a pretty decent fellow. Cuts his grass, keeps his house well maintained, doesn't play loud music or invite Islamic extremists who want to kill Americans over for dinner. Nice guy.
 

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I find Trump to be a lying, narcissist, dictator and scoundrel.

We've all lied. I won't argue about narcissism either. Subjective.

Any evidence that he's a dictator? Seriously. That's ludicrous.

How is he more of a "scoundrel" than any Democrat? Pick a Democrat. Any Democrat.