“Conservatives,” meaning Republicans, block Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill. 😲

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I told you it had no chance of passing.

It is comical to see all the hand-wringing over that bill
But…. But…. I thought it was the One Big Beautiful Bill that was going to save this country. Right? Or were we mislead? 🤔
 

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How is that possible?? You might want to excommunicate Chip Roy (R) Texas, one of several dissenters. 😂


But…. But…. I thought it was the One Big Beautiful Bill that was going to save this country. Right? Or were we mislead? 🤔
It’s so funny watching you idiots keep believing this is about party. That type of thinking is why the country is a mess. Trump is about policy and representation of what’s best for the American people and the country. Both the Republican and Democrat Parties are full of self serving morons who neither represent you nor myself. The moment you understand this, the better you’ll be.
 

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It’s so funny watching you idiots keep believing this is about party. That type of thinking is why the country is a mess. Trump is about policy and representation of what’s best for the American people and the country. Both the Republican and Democrat Parties are full of self serving morons who neither represent you nor myself. The moment you understand this, the better you’ll be.
I’m glad you’re entertained. Just attempting to balance out the lunacy that has taken over this forum. Trump is not the savior that most on here portray him to be. I understand that he is pro-coal/pro-energy, and that’s a HUGE DEAL for West Virginia and West Virginians, and I get it. I want West Virginia to survive and thrive just like the rest of you. I really do. What I don’t agree with are his other protectionist policies and his complete lack of human decency. His boorish and bully behavior, both nationally and abroad, does not portray this country in the best of light. I want a World Leader, not a dictator. We have truly become the Ugly American in the eyes of our ALLIES. Yet our enemies love us. That’s fricken CRAZY. It’s a very, bizarro world that we live in today. Give me a moderate, a Republican, Democrat, Independent, whoever. I don’t care. Just someone who takes the best ideas from ALL SIDES of the aisle to make the best decisions for All Americans. Not just those who kiss his *** all day.
 
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It’s so funny watching you idiots keep believing this is about party. That type of thinking is why the country is a mess. Trump is about policy and representation of what’s best for the American people and the country. Both the Republican and Democrat Parties are full of self serving morons who neither represent you nor myself. The moment you understand this, the better you’ll be.
It really is amazing. Listen to any of Trump's interviews from more than a decade ago and you hear him say the same thing about our fiscal policies back then as he does today. Read a transcript from a Clinton campaign speech in 1992 and a Trump speech today and you will see the big policies (economy, crime, foreign wars) are very similar. Trump has a lot of old school Democrat in him.

I'm old enough to remember when he was beloved by Democrats and it wasn't that long ago. Trump hasn't changed, they have.
 

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I’m glad you’re entertained. Just attempting to balance out the lunacy that has taken over this forum. Trump is not the savior that most on here portray him to be. I understand that he is pro-coal/pro-energy, and that’s a HUGE DEAL for West Virginia and West Virginians, and I get it. I want West Virginia to survive and thrive just like the rest of you. I really do. What I don’t agree with are his other protectionist policies and his complete lack of human decency. His boorish and bully behavior, both nationally and abroad, does not portray this country in the best of light. I want a World Leader, not a dictator. We have truly become the Ugly American in the eyes of our ALLIES. Yet our enemies love us. That’s fricken CRAZY. It’s a very, bizarro world that we live in today. Give me a moderate, a Republican, Democrat, Independent, whoever. I don’t care. Just someone who takes the best ideas from ALL SIDES of the aisle to make the best decisions for All Americans. Not just those who kiss his *** all day.
Which enemies love us? Our top enemy, China, certainly doesn't love us with Trump in office. As a matter of fact China loved us a ton under Biden.
 

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Which enemies love us? Our top enemy, China, certainly doesn't love us with Trump in office. As a matter of fact China loved us a ton under Biden.
Putin, Xi and he’s even snuggling up to Iran. They all love Dictator Donny because he’s become Just Like THEM.
 

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It’s so funny watching you idiots keep believing this is about party. That type of thinking is why the country is a mess. Trump is about policy and representation of what’s best for the American people and the country. Both the Republican and Democrat Parties are full of self serving morons who neither represent you nor myself. The moment you understand this, the better you’ll be.

Trump is going to get the bill passed. The RINOS and Democrats are so desperate for a win they will celebrate every minute up to the moment it does. That's actually the funniest part of all this.
 

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You know who else needs to vote for it Sir. All these so called Moderate Democrats I keep hearing about. I wouldn't let them off the hook.





Republicans MUST UNITE behind, “THE ONE, BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL!” Not only does it cut Taxes for ALL Americans, but it will kick millions of Illegal Aliens off of Medicaid to PROTECT it for those who are the ones in real need. The Country will suffer greatly without this Legislation, with their Taxes going up 65%. It will be blamed on the Democrats, but that doesn’t help our Voters. We don’t need “GRANDSTANDERS” in the Republican Party. STOP TALKING, AND GET IT DONE! It is time to fix the MESS that Biden and the Democrats gave us. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
 

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You know who else needs to vote for it Sir. All these so called Moderate Democrats I keep hearing about. I wouldn't let them off the hook.





Republicans MUST UNITE behind, “THE ONE, BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL!” Not only does it cut Taxes for ALL Americans, but it will kick millions of Illegal Aliens off of Medicaid to PROTECT it for those who are the ones in real need. The Country will suffer greatly without this Legislation, with their Taxes going up 65%. It will be blamed on the Democrats, but that doesn’t help our Voters. We don’t need “GRANDSTANDERS” in the Republican Party. STOP TALKING, AND GET IT DONE! It is time to fix the MESS that Biden and the Democrats gave us. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Maybe Trump could get some Dems to crossover for this bill. It's right up their alley. $62.7 trillion in debt in 10 years. We're bordering on insurmountable already.

 

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Maybe Trump could get some Dems to crossover for this bill. It's right up their alley. $62.7 trillion in debt in 10 years. We're bordering on insurmountable already.


We get it. You want Republicans to kick grandma off of Medicaid and Social Security before the midterms. Suck it. We will do it his way. Looking forward to getting the budget to unfvck the open borders mess your tribe created. That's spending money to save money in the future.
 

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We get it. You want Republicans to kick grandma off of Medicaid and Social Security before the midterms. Suck it. We will do it his way. Looking forward to getting the budget to unfvck the open borders mess your tribe created. That's spending money to save money in the future.
This strategy didn't even work in Middle school. You can't argue the facts, so you project a bunch of **** that doesn't even make sense as what I believe and is a lie, not to mention having the touch of appealing to numbers with the "we".

What value does your words make on this board whatsoever?
 

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This strategy didn't even work in Middle school. You can't argue the facts, so you project a bunch of **** that doesn't even make sense as what I believe and is a lie, not to mention having the touch of appealing to numbers with the "we".

What value does your words make on this board whatsoever?

You should keep bitching and complaing about Trump and what he's attempting to accomplsh. Eventually you will figure out why you are on an Island by yourself and multiple accounts.
 

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You sound ridiculous.
Yes, he really does.
To the Donny Fan Boys and MAGA Cult Members I Probably Do. And I’m ok with that. 👍
Try and educate yourself on what’s actually happening around you. Then come back to the debate. Calling a man voted back into office by overwhelming numbers a dictator shows you’re a fool. And Trump is exactly what the American people want. You’re in the minority and you lost. Deal with it.
 

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If I were you guys I'd stop listening to legacy media accounts of the back-n-fourth bickering, and instead focus on the overall objective. I'm sorry but I'm not hearing/reading all of this "division". I suppose it depends on your source of information, but here's an interesting article on what's actually driving these back door negotiations.

Congressional Republicans working hard to deliver Trump agenda despite Conservative doubt

As for the realities of Republicans passing the largest tax cuts in American history, listen to what Missouri Sen. Eric Schmitt had to say:

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“They’re really important,” Schmitt argues. “The issue here is that it’s preventing a $4 trillion tax increase, which is nearly 2,000 bucks per family. “And so, it’s probably not going to get the same headlines when you institute it, but it nevertheless is very important to keep in place and make permanent, which is what the focus is

...and what about the Democrats? What are they offering either by way of compromises or perhaps even better... alternatives to Trump's MAGA agenda which is focused on spending and tax cuts for all Americans?

Again, Senator Schmitt:

“It’s just amazing to watch them. You know, you never know what’s going to happen every week. But you know something stupid is going to happen. They’re just out of their minds, many of them, and they don’t know how to handle the defeat from November.

Pretty much sums up where the Democrat party is at least 'ya think?🤔
 

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Pretty good example here of Democrat intransigence dealing with one of the major drivers of our debt...entitlements.

Democrats stage political theater to fight Medicaid reform, Republicans fire back with facts

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Entitlement cuts are always a poison pill to elected officials. Here, the planned revisions to Medicaid that may be part of the Republicans’ “big, beautiful bill” is a handy tool for Democratic opposition touching a raw nerve. But are their fears fact-based? It depends who you ask.
 

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To the Donny Fan Boys and MAGA Cult Members I Probably Do. And I’m ok with that. 👍
You believed and voted for a person who claimed Biden was still in his right mind. You support those who either lied bigly about Biden or was to stupid to see his brain had turned to mush ...... sad part is in Biden's best days he was known as a habitual lier and plagiarism was his game plan . Was considered one of the dumbest in the Senate....But Trump is the dictator who wants to send power back to the states. Can't make this up .
 

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How is that possible?? You might want to excommunicate Chip Roy (R) Texas, one of several dissenters. 😂

Do you believe the Bill is DOA and off the table?

The reality is some fiscal conservatives rightfully stopped it from advancing out of committee. This is best case scenario. It means it’s about to get worse for Dem initiatives.

I’m not sure how this could be construed as anything but good news.
 

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You believed and voted for a person who claimed Biden was still in his right mind. You support those who either lied bigly about Biden or was to stupid to see his brain had turned to mush ...... sad part is in Biden's best days he was known as a habitual lier and plagiarism was his game plan . Was considered one of the dumbest in the Senate....But Trump is the dictator who wants to send power back to the states. Can't make this up .
Way to call it my man @roadtrasheer! 👏
 

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Way to call it my man @roadtrasheer! 👏
This guy lost me at pro choice and he voted for kamala. Pro choice is the belief that it's ok to take a human life to fix your own bad choices. Then he goes down the rabbit hole of rape and incest ....unbelievable... he still believes the same politicians policies that has gotten us 37 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt ....doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. If Trump is wrong and on some things I believe he is , but he is atleast going after waist, fraud and abuse that's a great start .
 

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Do you believe the Bill is DOA and off the table?

The reality is some fiscal conservatives rightfully stopped it from advancing out of committee. This is best case scenario. It means it’s about to get worse for Dem initiatives.

I’m not sure how this could be construed as anything but good news.
Exactly! Plus you won't hear better alternatives coming from that loser party over there on the Left side of the isle. All legacy media is doing right now is trying to scare most Republicans who are ready to vote for this, hoping to tank the whole thing. They were so pleased these few Republicans held up that bill, they almost sh*t on themselves :rolleyes:
 

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This guy lost me at pro choice and he voted for kamala. Pro choice is the belief that it's ok to take a human life to fix your own bad choices. Then he goes down the rabbit hole of rape and incest ....unbelievable... he still believes the same politicians policies that has gotten us 37 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt ....doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. If Trump is wrong and on some things I believe he is , but he is atleast going after waist, fraud and abuse that's a great start .
That poster is not serious. He's all over the map with his "moderate" bull crap. Guy is a stone cold hard Left wing wacko nut.
 

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Remember Kamala saying when asked if she would change anything that Biden was doing? She said “Nothing comes to mind.” America dodged a missile not electing that cackling idiot!
 

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Remember Kamala saying when asked if she would change anything that Biden was doing? She said “Nothing comes to mind.” America dodged a missile not electing that cackling idiot!
I honestly believe that's when she lost her candidacy. She certainly lost all credibility when she said that. Anyone who voted for her after that was voting for more of this creep.

Who me?
 

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You believed and voted for a person who claimed Biden was still in his right mind. You support those who either lied bigly about Biden or was to stupid to see his brain had turned to mush ...... sad part is in Biden's best days he was known as a habitual lier and plagiarism was his game plan . Was considered one of the dumbest in the Senate....But Trump is the dictator who wants to send power back to the states. Can't make this up .
That is not correct at all. I voted for Harris as a vote AGAINST Trump. Not FOR Harris. The lesser of two poor choices. Yes, anyone with half a brain could see Joe was not well and not capable of running this country. Had he stayed in the race I would have voted for Trump. As I mentioned, I vote for whoever I believe is the best candidate to run this country. And Joe is not well so instead of continuing to mock and insult him, why not have sympathy and compassion for him and pray for him? And I find it COMICAL that you criticize him for lying when Trump can’t spew one sentence without lying or hyperbole. Remember The Big Steal? The biggest LIE in the history of this country that caused police officers their lives and resulted in huge amounts of damage to our sacred capital, the symbol of democracy. So please don’t talk to me about lying. Donny lies the moment he opens his mouth. And his name calling and labeling of those he disagrees with are the actions of a spoiled, ignorant, immature CHILD.
 

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Hey sleepy, creepy Joe...do 'ya even remember the past 4 years?

Now let me see...where was I?


You mean you don't remember that "autopen" they used to sign all those EO's you issued?

Gee atl...I don't really remember issuing any EO's


Really sleepy, creepy, crooked Joe? C' mon man...think hard!

I'm tryin' atl...nothing's coming to me!


Damn sleepy, creepy, crooked Joe...you can't be that absent-minded can 'ya?

OK...wait...yeah I do remember one...uh...let me think now!!!!


Good Joe...let us have it!

Hold on...it's comin'......uh.........


OK....OK....I got it now!!!!!!!!!!!


Great sleepy, creepy, crooked Joe...what was it?

Ice Cream!!!!!!

 

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That is not correct at all. I voted for Harris as a vote AGAINST Trump. Not FOR Harris. The lesser of two poor choices. Yes, anyone with half a brain could see Joe was not well and not capable of running this country. Had he stayed in the race I would have voted for Trump. As I mentioned, I vote for whoever I believe is the best candidate to run this country. And Joe is not well so instead of continuing to mock and insult him, why not have sympathy and compassion for him and pray for him? And I find it COMICAL that you criticize him for lying when Trump can’t spew one sentence without lying or hyperbole. Remember The Big Steal? The biggest LIE in the history of this country that caused police officers their lives and resulted in huge amounts of damage to our sacred capital, the symbol of democracy. So please don’t talk to me about lying. Donny lies the moment he opens his mouth. And his name calling and labeling of those he disagrees with are the actions of a spoiled, ignorant, immature CHILD.


:joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:



 

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Hey sleepy, creepy Joe...do 'ya even remember the past 4 years?

Now let me see...where was I?


You mean you don't remember that "autopen" they used to sign all those EO's you issued?

Gee atl...I don't really remember issuing any EO's


Really sleepy, creepy, crooked Joe? C' mon man...think hard!

I'm tryin' atl...nothing's coming to me!


Damn sleepy, creepy, crooked Joe...you can't be that absent-minded can 'ya?

OK...wait...yeah I do remember one...uh...let me think now!!!!


Good Joe...let us have it!

Hold on...it's comin'......uh.........


OK....OK....I got it now!!!!!!!!!!!


Great sleepy, creepy, crooked Joe...what was it?

Ice Cream!!!!!!

So sad that you continue to mock and denigrate a man that is clearly struggling with dementia or Alzheimer’s. You won, why the need to continue these childish behaviors? And you claim to be a Christian. I guess you only abide by certain parts that fit the MAGA agenda. Shame on you.
 

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Hmmm....Chinese Communist party leader happy absent minded crooked capitalist pig President don't really remember many bribes we pay him to control American Foreign policy against Chinese Communist Party!

Well Xi....we elected a "capitlaist pig" President who's going to take back your lunch money and all your Ramen noodles too! 🤣

He doesn't want to mess with me!

Work him DJT!
 
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So sad that you continue to mock and denigrate a man that is clearly struggling with dementia or Alzheimer’s. You won, why the need to continue these childish behaviors? And you claim to be a Christian. I guess you only abide by certain parts that fit the MAGA agenda. Shame on you.
I'm a "Christian" who votes for protecting innocent unborn Life. You're a "Christian" who voted for a candidate who wants taxpayers to pay for women killing innocent unborn babies.

Shame on you!
 

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That is not correct at all. I voted for Harris as a vote AGAINST Trump. Not FOR Harris. The lesser of two poor choices. Yes, anyone with half a brain could see Joe was not well and not capable of running this country. Had he stayed in the race I would have voted for Trump. As I mentioned, I vote for whoever I believe is the best candidate to run this country. And Joe is not well so instead of continuing to mock and insult him, why not have sympathy and compassion for him and pray for him? And I find it COMICAL that you criticize him for lying when Trump can’t spew one sentence without lying or hyperbole. Remember The Big Steal? The biggest LIE in the history of this country that caused police officers their lives and resulted in huge amounts of damage to our sacred capital, the symbol of democracy. So please don’t talk to me about lying. Donny lies the moment he opens his mouth. And his name calling and labeling of those he disagrees with are the actions of a spoiled, ignorant, immature CHILD.
Harris was worse than Trump. If I had not been talked into voting for Trump it would've been a throwaway vote.

Biden/Harris trumped the supposed big lie with one of their own-that Biden wasn't weekend at Bernie's for his entire administration. Then you should ask who all floated and covered for this lie, and then... who was actually president?
 
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Jake Tapper Draws Liberal Outrage Over New Biden Book

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A new book by CNN anchor Jake Tapper has ignited fierce criticism from liberals and media observers who accuse him of profiting from a narrative he once helped downplay: President Joe Biden's mental and physical decline during his final year in office.

The book, Original Sin: President Biden's Decline, Its Cover-Up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again, co-authored with Axios journalist Alex Thompson, alleges that Biden's inner circle, including his family and top aides, orchestrated a comprehensive effort to obscure the president's deteriorating condition from the public, donors and even members of his own cabinet.

From two of America’s most respected journalists, an unflinching and explosive reckoning with one of the most fateful decisions in American political history: Joe Biden’s run for reelection despite evidence of his serious decline—amid desperate efforts to hide the extent of that deterioration

“A damning, step-by-step account of how the people closest to a stubborn, aging president enabled his quixotic resolve to run for a second term.” — The New York Times

"The book Biden allies fear the most." — Politico
 

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Ya'll know I lied about Joe too...to protect my own drunk ***!

Yes Kamala...we know!

I wore that girl out!
 

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Harris was worse than Trump. If I had not been talked into voting for Trump it would've been a throwaway vote.

Biden/Harris trumped the supposed bug lie with one of their own-that Biden wasn't weekend at Bernie's for his entire administration. Then you should ask who all floated and covered for this lie, and then... who was actually president?
I agree that Harris was NOT a good candidate. She completely FAILED on her border management. She had MANY flaws. However, the economy was improving and inflation had come down, other economic indicators were improving, the stock market was at an all time high, so there were some good things happening. Trump, on the other hand, continued to LIE to the American people to spew hate and discontent and DIVIDE this country like never before seen since possibly the civil war and he continues to do it today. He will say and do ANYTHING to get elected. He panders to the extremist points of view, aka MAGA. He insults our allies and praises our enemies. He is one of the biggest scoundrels ever to hold office. And I understand why West Virginians prefer Trump because he’s pro-coal/energy. And that’s good for the state. But it wasn’t too long ago that West Virginia was the bluest of the blue states under Byrd. And it’s still one of the largest welfare states in the country. People vote with their wallets and today, for West Virginia, that’s voting for a man who supports coal and completely disregards science and the FACT that global warming is a REAL phenomenon.