I know who it was but my lips are sealedI wasn't thinking about crapping on players, just how you might determine which kid it might be. You don't have to say how you narrowed it down.
I know who it was but my lips are sealedI wasn't thinking about crapping on players, just how you might determine which kid it might be. You don't have to say how you narrowed it down.
I know who it was but my lips are sealedNot willing to name names on a public message board
I've mentioned it numerous times. I think Tulsa people have brought it up a lot that if Tulsa area NL was in a different conference things would be different.. High School season has always been the reason why they haven't moved.it absolutely is, and it seems like when we talk about WSA NL right now, Tx conf being the toughest conf isn’t taken into account.
Yes... parents have been buying coaches stuff for a while. I know there was even a parent bragging about buying a coach a pair of expensive shoes. Yet nothing happened in that instance. So, this makes me think there might have been more to the story than just paying/bribing coaches. Or maybe, in this case it didn't work and hence the scorched earth tactics.Allegedly…..a dad of a 2011 was buying things for the coach last season. The player wasn’t quite ECNL level. Likely some quid pro quo going on there to be on the NL squad. Fast forward to this year and the girl wasn’t offered a spot on the NL team. Dad gets pissed off and goes scorched earth exposing everything to OEFC. I will say parents have been buying coaches stuff since the beginning of time. It was certainly common during my time at TSC. A parent exposing the relationship to the board is a different matter
LOLOLOL... so trueI joked this weekend when we heard this I should offer $$ for our coach to cut my kid. I would save $12k a year. (But she is obsessed with soccer and her team)
That's wild to think someone would rat on themselves unless they have no desire to be back at the club, or care about how they look trying to bribe a coach.
Preston doesn't develop players, he recruits. Never has he produced top talent.Did he give a time frame for that? What does he consider winning?
Preston doesn't develop players, he recruits. Never has he produced top talent.
Yes. JM is leaving Greenwood. Can’t say I’m shocked. JM is an elite trainer. His absence will be missed in the Tulsa soccer community. There haven’t been many local high level players in the last 5–10 years who haven’t trained with JM
That actually makes a lot of sense. I know Kansas plays HS in the Fall. Texas HS soccer starts in January and Oklahoma starts in February. And let's be honest, the driver of when those seasons are placed in OK and TX is HS football.I've mentioned it numerous times. I think Tulsa people have brought it up a lot that if Tulsa area NL was in a different conference things would be different.. High School season has always been the reason why they haven't moved.
And he's bailing pretty quick. Just had time for a cup of coffee. That's kind of lame for him to leave so quickly after starting the club. Guess he wasn't happy with the way things were going with his club and he decided to get out of dodge.seems weird that he would leave the club he started.
Greenwood is actually Michael Nsien’s club.And he's bailing pretty quick. Just had time for a cup of coffee. That's kind of lame for him to leave so quickly after starting the club. Guess he wasn't happy with the way things were going with his club and he decided to get out of dodge.
Greenwood is actually Michael Nsien’s club.
So...JM leaving Greenwood eh?
Why would the board allow the face of the club …the very person that 99% of families signed up to follow…to walk away? What does that say about the direction, planning, and priorities at the top?Greenwood is Michael Nsien and the Cobalt Sports Club. Neither of whom is in Tulsa. His son has also left Tulsa and is currently in Nashville with him. How much time can he actually devote to the club while he is in the MLS in Nashville? Not much.
Did JM get equity when Greenwood started? Who knows. Doubtful, it was much.
Many people left to go over there for JM from OKC, AR, etc. Now he decides to go overseas. That is fine for him, but it is no bueno for all the people who jumped ship for him. They have some really, really crap teams too at the academy level who think their kids are magically going to turn into superstars or who are going to be MLS Next players. In reality, they are fat, sit on their tushes, eat too many tacos and drink too many sugary drinks or who just plainly suck.
Less than a year in, and he jumps out. Maybe it was a really incredible opportunity, or maybe something bad happened. It just stinks considering the way they marketed themselves. When you offer scholarships to a large number of people, you have to wonder if they are financially solvent. It will be interesting to see how Colbalt leadership responds if they don't just start raising prices. Those guys probably want to get paid.
Why would the board allow the face of the club …the very person that 99% of families signed up to follow…to walk away? What does that say about the direction, planning, and priorities at the top?
How do you sell families on a vision of going “elite” and then watch the one person driving that vision exit? Where was the foresight? Where was the stability?
"Let him" There is a pretty easy answer here, broski. There was no contract, so there is nothing to enforce, per se. If he wanted to walk, he could.Why would the board allow the face of the club …the very person that 99% of families signed up to follow…to walk away? What does that say about the direction, planning, and priorities at the top?
How do you sell families on a vision of going “elite” and then watch the one person driving that vision exit? Where was the foresight? Where was the stability?
That’s exactly the point though—this isn’t about whether he could walk away, it’s about the lack of foresight in not having a contract in place in the first place. Without one, of course there’s nothing to enforce. But that decision (or oversight) is what left the door wide open for him to just walk away. With seemingly a lot invested seems like a big business miscalculation…but again not knowing the full story it’s hard to say."Let him" There is a pretty easy answer here, broski. There was no contract, so there is nothing to enforce, per se. If he wanted to walk, he could.
I have no idea if JM was under contract or not. That said, I have never known a high level club soccer coach who wasn’t under contract. The nature of the job as well as the multiple ways they are compensated make contracts almost a necessity.That’s exactly the point though—this isn’t about whether he could walk away, it’s about the lack of foresight in not having a contract in place in the first place. Without one, of course there’s nothing to enforce. But that decision (or oversight) is what left the door wide open for him to just walk away. With seemingly a lot invested seems like a big business miscalculation…but again not knowing the full story it’s hard to say.
I don't know what happened, but that wouldn't be the 1st time JM had to leave a club not on his termsI mean, I don't want to put on the tin foil hat...but...maybe he didn't have a choice? No clue. I hope for the best for him, though.
This was JM’s decisionI don't know what happened, but that wouldn't be the 1st time JM had to leave a club not on his terms
100% he didn't have a choice!!!I mean, I don't want to put on the tin foil hat...but...maybe he didn't have a choice? No clue. I hope for the best for him, though.
I don’t believe this is correct….and yes, I realize that’s what people are saying. Doesn’t mean it’s true100% he didn't have a choice!!!
100% he didn't have a choice!!!
The school will continue under a different coach.My question is can it survive without JM? With practicing/playing @ Mohawk?? Without a strong girls side to supplement the boys?? How about the school?