I agree w ya assessment on Davis. Who do you think is going 141 for PSU next year tho?? Some reason, someone on the RU board, thinks Blaze is 100% to wrestle 141 next season… not sure how he knows what Blaze is doing 100% but figured PSU fans would know more… as Blaze can still use his RS. Or maybe Ono/Desmond comes in at 133/141.. or some combo of Davis/Nagao somewhere if Blaze RS? There is no possibility Blaze ever goes 133 again?
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Blaze is really tall for a 133. It would not surprise me if he doesn’t wrestle 133 again after this season. Whether he wrestles or redshirts next year, I don’t know, but I’d expect Ono at 133 and Blaze at 141 if he doesn’t redshirt. I would guess he wrestles. There’s no need for him to extend his college career. World championships and Olympics are his real goals. I’d guess it’s more likely if anything, he’d take an ORS but never a regular RS.
This. Unless Marcus thinks he can cut down to 57kg, he's going 65kg at some point, and will need to bump up to 141 or even 149.
He has the frame to do it. Just depends on when he decides to make the bump up.
False.
Cael is looking out for the TEAM. Pyles was talking about Desmond's interests.
Are you going to save him for year 8?
Where in the lineup is he guaranteed to wrestle next year?
It Does benefit him.if he gets on the mat.
It does not benefit him to save a redshirt if he does not get on the mat next year.
Where in the lineup is he guaranteed to wrestle next year? Is Ono going to sit for the 3rd year in a row? Is blaze sitting?
Unfortunately their are guys on the roster that aren't going to be there in a year or 2. Does it benefit them to sit for 2 or 3 years, maybe their career or wrestle somewhere else?
I think you have to look at RS's a little different now with NIL and RTC. I would think that a kid looks at PSU as a 10-year thing. You have your scholastic time and RTC time. So, it probably matters little to these guys where their time is spent if school doesn't cost anything.
I just think everything has changed so much that the 4-years/5-years question is even valid anymore.
I also think you don't have to be a 4 time natty champ - getting a chance and being a one time champ is a good thing. When in a room like PSUs, I'm sure some think that.
Cael and Pyles definitely have different views. Pyles was talking as though he had a keen insight to the goings-on in Lorenzo, which he doesn't. Cael does.
So. False. Cael is much better situated to know not only what is best for the team, but also what is best for Desmond. Pyles doesn't know jack, including what is best for Desmon. Pyles sole motivation is provide a reason for fans to click on his platform.
To clarify, Pyles was talking about what HE thought would be in Desmond's best interest. That's about as relevant as what I or Googles thinks is in Desmond's best interest. None of the three of us have any insight into what it's like to be wrestler with Desmond's talents and career aspirations in a room like PSU's.
I'd wager there is a guy or two on the staff and also in his family that do have some insight that's relevant.
i would be shocked is Nagao is back. He is graduating... he just got married and he is coming off of a couple of major injuries... with some very stiff competition in front of him.
I think going into next season... 141... Blaze-Ono- Desmond and Wetzel are the guys manning those two weights. Unless Luke can no longer make 125.... (then that changes he equation)
But as is... I think we are looking at
125 Luke
133 Ono
141 Blaze
149 SVN
157 Kasak (with PJ redshirting)
165 Mitch
174 Henckel
184 Rocco
197 Barr
Hvy Cole
I do question if Mitch moves up to 74 and a combo of Kasak- PJ- or Sealy man 57 & 65???
Nobody is pushing Mitch now... maybe Joey Blaze can be enough of a challenge to bring Mitch back to 65 next year... NOT SURE
I think going into next season... 141... Blaze-Ono- Desmond and Wetzel are the guys manning those two weights. Unless Luke can no longer make 125.... (then that changes he equation)
But as is... I think we are looking at
125 Luke
133 Ono
141 Blaze
149 SVN
157 Kasak (with PJ redshirting)
165 Mitch
174 Henckel
184 Rocco
197 Barr
Hvy Cole
I do question if Mitch moves up to 74 and a combo of Kasak- PJ- or Sealy man 57 & 65???
Nobody is pushing Mitch now... maybe Joey Blaze can be enough of a challenge to bring Mitch back to 65 next year... NOT SURE
All right, no more tongue in cheek for you guys.
I've given you too much credit.
Good heavens.
For those wondering if Mitch will move up to 174, what do you make of the fact that his singlet already fits him like a pair of baggy bball shorts?
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Agree with just about all of that lineup. My only question is can Kasak maintain 157. I don't think that is going to happen but would be great if he could. Either Sealy or Henckel are going to be in a tough spot. All of that is also assuming PJ redshirts and Marcus does not. Marcus redshirting opens up Desmond.
NO ONE should be making definitive claims of what Cael will do..but your guess is as good as mine.
Personally my guess for next year..
If Duke shirts.. If Duke and Blaze shirt.. If Duke and Blaze don't shirt (IMO their best lineup)
Luke Luke Luke
Ono Ono Ono
Blaze Desmond Blaze
Van Ness Van Ness Van Ness
Kasak Kasak Kasak
Messenbrink Messenbrink Duke
Henckle Henckle Messenbrink
Welsh Welsh Welsh
Barr Barr Barr
Mirasola Mirasola Mirasola
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Blaze at 141 sounds about right. Look at the family genes. Joeys bumped up two weight classes to 165. Marcus will look really good at 141 next year.
Fine picture of some cute kids with a God-fearing Christian role model who believes in proper nutrition and living a clean life. No one should have a beef with this pic.If you think that one says “call Child Protective Services” I hope the spoiler feature works and you don’t click this one.
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In his first two years, Davis was a Big Ten champ in year one and an AA the next. This without the benefit of a redshirt. Not too shabby for a kid some on these boards said would never make the lineup or at most a one and done starter for us.
1. easier to make for a coule events a year than a whole season, but I am sure he can do it
2. 70kg not an Olympic weight
not sure either of the above will factor in Kasak's decision but thought I'd point them out
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@amattaro gonna have some 'splaining to do when his kids are old enough to question his good parent credentials.
Blaze redshirt next year is the only "painless" path I see at 133/141, just don't tell Marcus.
As for Davis and Nagao, we may be close to the end of that story...
As for Davis and Nagao, we may be close to the end of that story...
Unless Davis redshirts next year and goes to 149 post SVN
Curious question...what would be the point of Marcus redshirting next year? Is it lineup construction? As your "don't tell Marcus" comment accurately implies, there is no benefit to him as he clearly doesn't need a year to develop further skills. Could it be to gain weight to go 141 the following season?
Cael has said he mostly leaves these decisions up to the wrestlers, and if that's the case and Marcus wants to wrestle 133 next season, then my guess is Marcus will be wrestling 133 next season.
Only that part of the story that has older men nitpicking the performance and/or endurance of two tough kids who only give/gave their best.
Truly heart-sore for Aaron. Still betting Braeden outperforms his NCAA seed.
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What if he loses the wrestle off to Ono? What is wrong with taking a red shirt. They now get paid to wrestle. They all love to wrestle, so why not stay a little longer.
+1 With NIL there is a very legitimate reason for athletes to stay in college as long as they possibly can. It's not like redshirting pushes his post-NCAA international/freestyle goals back in any way. I don't see any downside other than ego.
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I still think Braeden is very talented. However, his gas tank issues have become very concerning. Not for the team, as we could score zero at 141 and still win in a rout this season, but for him and his aspirations.Only that part of the story that has older men nitpicking the performance and/or endurance of two tough kids who only give/gave their best.
Truly heart-sore for Aaron. Still betting Braeden outperforms his NCAA seed.
How’s that for a cranky and coffee-less post?
Blaze has a frame like Taylor had , just a little smaller.
You will not see Blaze at 133 next year . That's from a pretty reliable source.
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