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Strike.sixpack

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Those games were 3 times against Petrino and Arkansas and A & M last year. Pretty much the best offenses in the league the last four years. I think that had more to do with it than the fact it was after Bama.
 

Hump4Hoops

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Cookiemonster you're drunk, go home.

Random meaningless stat. I bet our points scored the week before Auburn is fantastic!**
 

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3 out of every 4 nights I drink whiskey, I have to take a **** first thing in the morning
 

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You just have to show up to beat Upig. That's exactly what ole miss did and the game was never in doubt. I actually think state will blow out Upig. They had a little hope in Oxford since they could technically still make a bowl. They have nothing to play for now and Mullen loves to run up the score when he can.
 

121Josey

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You just have to show up to beat Upig. That's exactly what ole miss did and the game was never in doubt. I actually think state will blow out Upig. They had a little hope in Oxford since they could technically still make a bowl. They have nothing to play for now and Mullen loves to run up the score when he can.

Clearly you didn't watch the game. UPigg played until the end. They had an INT that they returned to the 20 but it was called back.

When does a team winless in conference have nothing to play for?

Did you realize that UPigg has 2 weeks to prepare for this game and rest players?

Did you realize that we play Bama and will have a letdown and will lose players?

Did you realize that the UPigg game will be played in hell?

When has Mullen ran up the score in an SEC game?
 

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We had a let down after bama last year bc we thought we were better than we were. This year I don't think we believe we can win, so I don't think there will be a let down. Our slide began with bama last year. Hopefully we play them well and end our funk against the team we started it with
 

121Josey

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We had a letdown last year, and the year before that, and the year before that, etc. It's hard to get up for 2 SEC games in a row.

If you don't think players will give their all to beat the #1 team in the nation at home, a team that is only 60 miles away, our "real rivals", I don't know what to tell you.
 

Strike.sixpack

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I think though that the idea our scores after the Bama is bad because of Bama is skewed when you look at the teams we played. They have been very difficult back to back games for the last 4 years and the second game has been against the best offense in the league each year. Also I remember us playing Arkansas to double OT one of those years so it hasn't been let downs everytime. As pointed out, its a very bad stat when it's not qualified. If we had been getting beat by average teams or very close games against weak teams then it makes a little more sense.
 

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What the heck are you talking about? What does a link to a Bama site have to do with this? It's a bad stat without letting the people know the opponents of the next game. It makes you draw a conclusion that its strickly because we play Bama that we will get beat badly by the next opponent. Never mind that the the opponent just so happens to be a top 10 team, except for our first year when it was still an 8 win team vs a 5 win team and those opponents were offensive powerhouses. And the fact that we could have beat Arkansas in 2010 disproves your previous statement that we had a let down the year before and the year before, etc. It was a bad and misleading stat.
 

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3 out of every 4 nights I drink whiskey, I have to take a **** first thing in the morning

George Carlin say: "You don't Take a ****...... You Leave a ****." The weekend is coming up, so don't take my *****. In the Icebox.
 

121Josey

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What the heck are you talking about? What does a link to a Bama site have to do with this? It's a bad stat without letting the people know the opponents of the next game.
Are you seriously that dense? Can you not read a message board? Let me post it here for your convience:

What happens to a team after being beaten by Alabama?

This was just posted on Finebaum's FB page a few minutes ago. Over the last 3 years, teams are 1-11 vs SEC opponents after being beaten by Alabama the week before. Just goes to show that when the Tide breaks you, you are broken!

Maybe the bold type will help you. They're all SEC teams. They all lost. Now that number is up to 1-13. Oh, by the way, that one lone victory was MSU @ LSU last year.
 

Strike.sixpack

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Well it didn't go to the board on my phone prick. Just to the opening page. It's a crap stat just like the one I put up. Without context it's meaningless. Who were the teams and their opponents? Without that knowledge you can't draw an accurate conclusion.

Good lord to you check this out or what? It's been us, UM, and Tennessee with the majority of these games playing a very good team the following week as well. Tenn has had So Carolina for the last two years and Missouri this year. How bout this though 2011 Arkansas gets beat 38-14 the following week beats 14 ranked A & M the year before they move to the SEC. It's a crap stat without context.
 
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121Josey

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It's a crap stat just like the one I put up. Without context it's meaningless. Who were the teams and their opponents? Without that knowledge you can't draw an accurate conclusion.

Fair enough. I've bookmarked this page. If I read that you've posted a stat, I'm going to pull up this page and copy and paste it as a response to your stat. Ok? Hopefully, you won't make me do that. When you post ypg or ppg, I want to know the opponents, their opponents' opponents, their SOS, their standing in the polls, their conference affiliation, their endowment, their scholastic ranking according to U.S. News and World Report, their university president, their pom-squad (carnal imagery will suffice), and their school mascot. Can you help me with that? A stat is just a stat until it has context.**
 

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You know what in this case all it would have took was to list the opponents the following week. If he had done that then maybe either one of you wouldn't have tried to use bad stats to make a point. I just added above all you have to do is to look at the teams and come to a pretty quick understanding that the stat while true is misleading when you say SEC teams are 1-13 when playing a SEC team the last three years. You didn't find out that the bulk of that record is us, UM, and Tennessee and I have not ven finished half the league yet. That's 10 games so far.

You can book mark all you want you both know all it took was telling the readers the opponents. That's it. But to it on a place that you know everybody knew the opponents and the reasoning was driven by an agenda.
 
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I just added above all you have to do is to look at the teams and come to a pretty quick understanding that the stat while true is misleading when you say SEC teams are 1-13 when playing a SEC team the last three years. You didn't find out that the bulk of that record is us, UM, and Tennessee and I have not ven finished half the league yet. That's 10 games so far.

I love how a stat about our chances the week after Bama is misleading because it includes too many of our own games. Tell me more you savant.***
 

Strike.sixpack

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Yeah our own games against Top 15 teams. Every time the last three years it's been to a Top 15 team and the most powerful offense in the league. So again without context of your originally post it is a very misleading stat.
 

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The stat is

meaningless because it does not take into account, whatsoever, who we played. Wouldn't you think the stat would be different if we had played Alcorn, JSU, or Kentucky the following weeks instead of who we had?
 

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This is like the morons who bet on black 14 times in a row at the roulette table because its hit red every time and thats impossible and it will have to hit black this time!

Each spin of the wheel is separate from the last and of the next. Its a 50-50 chance each time.


Hopefully you can translate this to your post and understand why your stat is meaningless.
 

Strike.sixpack

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For the information of the ones touting the record of teams playing an SEC opponent the week after playing Alabama since 2010 until today the record is 1-14. Of course what is not said is the fact in every case it has been a team that has finished ranked vs an unranked team and in 13 of the 15 games its been a Top 15 team beating and unranked team except the year we lost to Arkansas in 2010 and finished ranked. We have been the team it's happened to 3 times. Twice against Arkansas and once against A & M. UM has had it happen 4 times. Top 10 Auburn this year (30-22), Top 10 A & M last year, and Top 15 Arkansas the two years prior. Tenn has had it occur 4 times. Three times to So Carolina who were always ranked and then 9 Missouri this year. Florida twice lost to LSU in 2010 & 2011. They finished unranked and LSU was a Top 10 team in 2010 & 2 in 2011. The 2010 game was 33-29 LSU. It happened to Vandy once in 2011 against GA. Unranked Vandy lost to 19 GA 33-28. At no time has it been a team get beat up by Bama and lose to a team with a worse record.
 

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I love how a stat about our chances the week after Bama is misleading because it includes too many of our own games. Tell me more you savant.***

Your stat has as much weight as the old stat about how its been 20 years since a team last won at a certain site. Well when you dont play the team every year and when you play the team you play at that site every other time, it ends up being only 4 games lost there. The stat is meaningless when actually evaluated.
Its also meaningless because past performance has nothing to do with current performance when you go back years and decades. In college football, entire teams are new in about 4 year blocks. So if we lost in 2008, so what? Players werent even in college and some werent yet in high school at that time. That means nothing to this team and this season.
 
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In the last five years...

Your stat has as much weight as the old stat about how its been 20 years since a team last won at a certain site. Well when you dont play the team every year and when you play the team you play at that site every other time, it ends up being only 4 games lost there. The stat is meaningless when actually evaluated.

…a team has followed their game with Bama with a conference game 20 times. Those teams are 3-17 in those games. Those 17 losses are made up of seven different teams across five different seasons. I'd say it's as close to a trend as you can get.

Also, I'd like to note that LSU (in the past five seasons) has only scheduled a conference game the week after Bama once (it was us of course in 2012). Also, Arkansas has never played a conference game after their game with Bama. Maybe we should think about following suit.
 

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Read the bottom of this post you will see the reason since 2010. I didn't go back to 2009 but since the record is 1-15 since 2010 and you state it's 3-17 that leads me to believe it was 2-2 in 2009. It will probably be the fact that the two wins were from teams higher ranked (probably considerably) but will check it out. Would love to have our off week after Bama or schedule a scrub. Unfortunately the league sets that schedule not us.

2009 a 7-6 Kentucky lost to 7-6 So Carolina 28-26, a 5-7 MSU lost to 8-5 Petrino Arkansas, a 7-6 So Carolina beat 2-10 Vandy, and the 7-6 Kiffin Tenn team that lost to Bama 12-10 on a blocked field goal the week before went on to beat a 7-6 So Carolina team 31-13. So beat up the won by 18 points. The only team you can say struggled against a far inferior opponent was So Car beating Vandy 14-10. And they still won.
 
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Several years ago, when we were playing Tennessee, they pointed out that Tennessee hadn't beaten us in Knoxville in 30 years. Of course, we'd only played them there twice in that time.
 
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In 2009 two teams won (in conference) the week after they played Bama: USCe (7-6) and UT (7-6). One lost: MSU (5-7).

USCe beat Vandy (2-10) 14-10. UT beat USCe 31-13. MSU lost to Arkansas (8-5).
 

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It was two losses. Kentucky lost to So Carolina as well. Both were 7-6. The only year it was been .500 three teams had 7-6 records, one with 8-5, one with 5-7, and one with 2-10. Tenn blows the stat out of the water by beating So Car the next week. Similar records an the team that had just lost to Bama blows out So Car. So Car struggled against Vandy but still won. Kentucky lost to Bama and then barely lost to So Car.
 

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Several years ago, when we were playing Tennessee, they pointed out that Tennessee hadn't beaten us in Knoxville in 30 years. Of course, we'd only played them there twice in that time.

Perfect example.
 

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Bump. Sorry had to bring this one back because of the argument about this stat and the fact it was only relevant because of an odd scheduling situation. It didn't hold true like people thought it would because we were not facing a winning team unlike the previous four years that created this bad stat.
 
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Did it not? We had to go to OT against the, bar none, worst team in the SEC. A team that everyone else beat comfortably. We came out as flat as I thought we would. We only won because of a lucky fumble recovery in the red zone.
 

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No. It had more to do with playing them on the road. A terrible team that we were only favored by what? 3 points. Not to mention we left 10-13 points on the field and should have been a double digit win. The fact that we played Bama didn't have much to do with us becoming the 2nd team in the last 4 years to lose to Bama and then beat an SEC opponent the following week. It was as previously stayed it was a bad misleading stat because until last week the last 4 years always pitted a ranked team playing an unranked team. The ranked team always won. It just so happened the unranked team had just lost to Bama the week before. And btw the favorite still won the game. Just like the last 4 years.
 

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And what about our equal lucky fumbe in the endzone before the half to them?

Arkansas played well against OM against AUB and A&M.
 
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