1st time in 8 or so years w/ no "developmental QB's"

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I will be surprised if KJJ avoids a Redshirt in 2017. The kid is down around 190 lbs right now and nowhere near football shape.

As for the QB battles, we should be careful what we wish for. They both are better equipped to execute major pieces of the offense. But they will also be new QBs.

Tanner Lee has started 20 career games at the FBS level. But keep in mind he hasn't taken a meaningful snap since October, 2015 when he won a game at Army. His team was also so bad in 2015 that he really only survived 4 games that season without having to be replaced to injury.
 
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Had umbilical hernia surgery myself about a month ago and it takes more time for us older folk compared to a young pup like Keyshawn Jr, better to be safe about this then sorry later. I myself don't want to get in the same situation as you Penny and have to have another operation to repair it again so I'm making sure that they have me on light duty for a few weeks till everything feels good to go, just like the staff is doing with Keyshawn Johnson Jr.Winking
Yes, I learned the hard way that you have to be patient even with minor surgery.

As for post appendectomy infection.... my doctors kept me in the hospital for three extra days post surgery because my appendix had leaked a little before removal. So they had me on an antibiotic intravenous drip to be safe. I wonder if Key Jr. was dismissed too soon and he developed some abdominal sepsis. That can be very, very serious, and it would explain his long recovery and weight loss
 
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A couple more things about Lee's horrific 2015 season at Tulane. And I'm calling it horrific for him because his offensive line was one of the worst in college football. They made Nebraska in 2016 look like the Dallas Cowboys.

Anyway, Lee was returning in 2015 with a lot of momentum from 2014 as redshirt Freshman. Tulane was also returning WR Xavier Rush, now with the Philadelphia Eagles, and Teddy Veal, a legit NFL WR prospect. During their fall camp, two starting offensive tackles went down, and Rush tore his ACL. Between week two and three, Veal was accused of Sexual Assault and was suspended. He was eventually cleared and transferred to Louisiana Tech.

In games vs Temple and Diaco's UCONN teams, Lee was sacked 13 combined times. Those two games pretty much ended his career at Tulane.
 

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That is the thing isn't it?.. with all the talk and off the field love for Lee, he hasn't been successful for one reason or another. A string of bad luck, it still means the likelihood of him coming in and having a monster season would be kinda low. What are the odds on that? 1 in 20? If the defense has a monster season, then we can win a lot of games. What are the odds on that? 1 in 10? New system, I dunno.. I hope for the best.. they need to work and develop a lot between now and September.
 

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That is the thing isn't it?.. with all the talk and off the field love for Lee, he hasn't been successful for one reason or another. A string of bad luck, it still means the likelihood of him coming in and having a monster season would be kinda low. What are the odds on that? 1 in 20? If the defense has a monster season, then we can win a lot of games. What are the odds on that? 1 in 10? New system, I dunno.. I hope for the best.. they need to work and develop a lot between now and September.
Can you explain this a little more? Why does a string of bad luck in the past make the odds of him having a monster season kind of low?

If the issue were mechanics or decision making, I would absolutely agree with you. But bad luck? I'm not really following your logic on this one...
 

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Can you explain this a little more? Why does a string of bad luck in the past make the odds of him having a monster season kind of low?

If the issue were mechanics or decision making, I would absolutely agree with you. But bad luck? I'm not really following your logic on this one...

Glass half empty.
 

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Can you explain this a little more? Why does a string of bad luck in the past make the odds of him having a monster season kind of low?

If the issue were mechanics or decision making, I would absolutely agree with you. But bad luck? I'm not really following your logic on this one...
It's simple really.. it's the idea that the further removed you are from success (not just football), the more difficult it is to get back to where you were.

In this case, it's probably been a few years since the guy knows what it is like to compete and win on a regular basis. Contrast that with POB, who is only 1 year removed from a record setting season as a senior in high school.

To me, POB getting back into the saddle and having success is not as far removed as a guy who is 2-3 or even 4 years removed from his last glory days.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but hopefully you understand the point I'm trying to convey.
 

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It's simple really.. it's the idea that the further removed you are from success (not just football), the more difficult it is to get back to where you were.

In this case, it's probably been a few years since the guy knows what it is like to compete and win on a regular basis. Contrast that with POB, who is only 1 year removed from a record setting season as a senior in high school.

To me, POB getting back into the saddle and having success is not as far removed as a guy who is 2-3 or even 4 years removed from his last glory days.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but hopefully you understand the point I'm trying to convey.
I see where you're coming from... I don't necessarily agree but I get it. Yes, you might be right. But I think these offensive coaches will have him well prepared, so any bad luck from the past won't affect him negatively moving forward.

Edit: but admittedly, I'm pretty optimistic by nature when it comes to the huskers.
 

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It's simple really.. it's the idea that the further removed you are from success (not just football), the more difficult it is to get back to where you were.

In this case, it's probably been a few years since the guy knows what it is like to compete and win on a regular basis. Contrast that with POB, who is only 1 year removed from a record setting season as a senior in high school.

To me, POB getting back into the saddle and having success is not as far removed as a guy who is 2-3 or even 4 years removed from his last glory days.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but hopefully you understand the point I'm trying to convey.

I'm not sure that I understand your comment that " the further removed from success, the more difficult it is to get back to where you were " ....It happens all the time in the NFL where someone will have to sit for several years before getting their chance...I.E. Steve Young...Aaron Rodgers to name just a few....and they turned out pretty good : ) I think it is more of a matter of working hard to get better waiting for your turn than the number of years removed.
 
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I'm not sure that I understand your comment that " the further removed from success, the more difficult it is to get back to where you were " ....It happens all the time in the NFL where someone will have to sit for several years before getting their chance...I.E. Steve Young...Aaron Rodgers to name just a few....and they turned out pretty good : ) I think it is more of a matter of working hard to get better waiting for your turn than the number of years removed.
I understand what you're saying, but I'm not going to compare these guys to NFL All Stars. I agree with the working hard comment. My point is, it can be a bigger hill to climb the longer one is away from it, and truth be told, Lee hasn't had a successful season since 2012. In that respect only, he has a bigger hill to climb than POB. It's another angle or way to look at the QB competition this year. I hope both are successful.