We may lose.
Value is on us and ML.
This is a coin flip game because it's a Mizzou. We are the better team
Value is on us and ML.
This is a coin flip game because it's a Mizzou. We are the better team
2-5 Mizzou opens as...
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Last time we played there we lost 20-10. Kickoff was 4:00 pm. It was a tortuous game to watch. UK was bad. Really bad.
So, based upon that alone, give me a noon start.
But, I think three of their P5 losses were against top 25 teams. They lost to WVU, LSU, UF, and UGA. I hope we are a composite of those teams. I would take that!
Agree on the noon start, but also consider that the last time we played there they had a REALLY good team, with a REALLY good coach. They aren't close to that team that beat us 20-10, and we aren't close to the team we were either.
Have to start drinking at 7am then again after the game, lights out at 8pm :weary::cheers2:
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I was like, why on earth would he hate the moon kickoff? Didn't stop to think that it messed up people drinking schedules.
Thank you. I will take that as a "backhanded compliment".
FWIW, I try to call 'em as I see 'em about the Cats AND the Cards but some people have trouble accepting anything remotely unflattering about their school (including hard statistical facts). I followed UK football and had season tix a long time before becoming a "Card fan first" (mid-80s with Schnellenberger). Quite frankly, I think my "criticisms" of UK are reserved and unemotional compared to many regular posters on this board. The big difference is that I am a Card fan that also supports UK football. FWIW, that is also really hard for a number of my Card friends to accept.You got me, johnny! I deserve that. I will let is stand for further ridicule. Damn apostrophes.
Thank you. I wish I was as crafty as some say.
But back to the point of the thread. I am having a hard time seeing a 2-5 MO team as what is now a 4-5.5 favorite favorite in this game, a number "supported" by at least 3 prominent "power ranking" sites.
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I doubt that it's anything more than a case of Vegas using the computer rankings as a baseline- and the Sagarins would actually have Mizzou as about a 6 point favorite. I usually think that these types of ratings are pretty close to the mark, but not in this case.
However, this game is anything but a slam dunk and a home game against Georgia may actually be more winnable. We are playing better than Mizzou lately, but, overall, we've had similar results in similar games. Mizzou has played three good teams on the road, and was crushed by two of them, and beaten pretty soundly (though not really crushed) in the other; we've played two good teams on the road, and were crushed in both. They lost to a midmajor at home; so did we. They clobbered their two cupcakes; we clobbered ours, albeit after a scare. Our big advantage is that we played 3 mediocre SEC teams at home, and won all three; they played one (Georgia) and lost, though the scores were close in all of the games, and Georgia is overall a bit better than the teams we played. So, while I am optimistic that we can win, I'm not surprised that we are underdogs, and I won't be surprised if we lose.
Several have mentioned Sagarin pegging Mizzou as a 5.5-6 point favorite and I've seen that as well. Does that system account for recency at all, does anyone know? It may be blue-tinted glasses but I feel like our play the past 4 games (yes, including Alabama) has been a marked improvement compared with the first three. I admit not to knowing much about Mizzou's trend, aside from losing the last game at home to MTSU.
It should be a big advantage for us. It's 11 AM for their players; whereas, it will feel like noon for our guys. Also, the stands are going to be empty.
Why would the refs cheat on behalf of Mizzou? Mizzou has a very difficult path to a bowl game, even with a win. The SEC is going to want to fill those spots and right now, it's not going to be easy. UK is in better position to go to a bowl with a win- if that happens, UK is in, and Mizzou is out. If Mizzou wins, chances are good that both teams are out.
They won't be deflated. They will approach this game as a game they can and should win. Imo , we play flat. They will be pumped .
I am pretty sure they do not. I think all "power polls" (i.e., mathematical determinations of the anticipated "points difference" are determined by cumulative results and do not include a "streak factor". Given the weekly disparity in strength of opposition I'm not sure how you would quantify such.
It is one thing to offer an opinion and another thing to put your money where your mouth is. [laughing]
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Vandy and MSU moved the ball late passing against a prevent defense. Kentucky moved the ball late passing against a prevent defense. I hate prevent defenses.
Neither Vandy nor MSU hurt Kentucky by passing otherwise.
Kentucky struggles against mobile QB's but Locke is not one. Kentucky's secondary should be up to limiting MIzu's passing game. I say should. We will have to wait and see.
Neither Vandy nor MSU hurt Kentucky by passing otherwise.
Kentucky struggles against mobile QB's but Locke is not one. Kentucky's secondary should be up to limiting MIzu's passing game. I say should. We will have to wait and see.
For what little it's worth, 4 of the 5 ESPN CFB analysts have picked UK over Mizzou. All five predict a margin of seven points or less.
http://www.espn.com/blog/sec/post/_...icks-can-auburn-keep-rolling-against-ole-miss
I trust Vegas more than ESPN analysts.
I'm worried about this game because it's on the road. Our last performance there was pitiful.
I'm worried about this game because it's on the road. Our last performance there was pitiful.
Last time we played at Mizzou, we were not as good and they were ranked. Our defense did what it needed for most of that game, but the offense was really bad. I don't think that game is any predictor for this game.
We sat with former cat Mike Deacon at that game and yes you are right it was ugly!
IF we play flat with all that is at stake for UK then things are we worse than I thought with MS and this program...Sat is a big statement game for the staff and players.
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Brother, if you're kickin' off on the moon you my friend are way ahead on the drinking schedule!
I mean come on man...kicking on the moon would improve hang time, and give our coverage team waaaay more time to get into position to prevent any returns at all. The moon kickoff is a no brainer!
For me the difference is our trends. Ours is up, theirs is down. If we played our midmajor again, we would win. If they played MTSU again the same result is likely.
I think KY wins on the strength of our running game.
Hopefully, we can get pressure on their quarterback and speed the game up for him, which will lead to bad decisions and bad throws.
Hopefully, we can get pressure on their quarterback and speed the game up for him, which will lead to bad decisions and bad throws.
It will be interesting to see if you're correct since they have nothing to be pumped about. They just suffered a demoralizing loss which took their season from circling the drain to firmly in the drain. They have been decimated by injuries and have little to play for. I expect them to put up a fight but pumped? I highly doubt it.
We need to jump on them early. First possession take it down the field and punch it in for a TD. Send whatever fans that show up back to their tailgate at halftime.
Line now at 6.5 at some places
That is a 3.5 pt swing in three days in favor of a team coming off a embarrassing home loss and losing two of their defensive starters.
I would say this doesn't look good for the Cats.
That is a 3.5 pt swing in three days in favor of a team coming off a embarrassing home loss and losing two of their defensive starters.
I would say this doesn't look good for the Cats.
But would they get picked off??? Keep it on the ground, and force the other team to play from behind thus putting the ball in the air. 3 and outs all day long, baby!
I saw that. Six is still the most common number. Most books opened their line at +3.5 and now moved to +6. Pretty hard to figure (at least for me). I can only conclude that the line makers are more impressed with Mizzou's losses (Sagarin SOS #34) than UK's wins (Sagarin SOS #58). But if I were betting I still like those 6 1/2 points.Line now at 6.5 at some places
That is a 3.5 pt swing in three days in favor of a team coming off a embarrassing home loss and losing two of their defensive starters.
I would say this doesn't look good for the Cats.
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