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2004 Dawgs vs 2012 Dawgs

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Coach34

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Since 2004 was The Recruiters best team at State- I thought I'd compare some numbers


Timmy Bowers- 15 ppg/4 Reb, 4.8 asst, 1.5 steals...2.5 turnovers 63.4%- FT...35%- 3pt
Dee Bost- 16ppg, 3.5 Reb, 5 asst, 2 steals...2.8 turnovers...75.5%- FT...34.6%- 3pt

Frasier- 13ppg/4 Reb...2.5 steals, 79%- FT...33.7%- 3pt
Bryant- 6.5/4.5Reb...2 asst, 63%- FT...32%- 3pt

Power- 9.7/4 Reb, 1.5 asst, 1 steal...77.5%-FT...48%- 3pt
Hood- 11/5 Reb, 2 asst...65%- FT....39%- 3pt

LR- 17/10 Reb, 52%- field...63.5%- FT...30%- 3pt
Moultrie- 17/11 Reb, 57%- field...76.5%- FT...50%- 3pt

Vincent- 7.4/7.6 Reb, 52%- field...56%- FT
Sidney- 10/5 Reb, 53%- field...60%- FT...41%- 3pt

Big Feces- 6/4 Reb, 1 block...56%- field...62%- FT...couldnt catch
Wendell- 4/4 Reb, 1 block...63%- field

Ervin- 5/1 Reb, 2.5 asst, 2 turnovers. 1 steal...66%- FT...32%- 3pt
Steele- 8/2 Reb...87%- FT...41%- 3 pt

2003 scored 6 more ppg....but turned it over a couple more times pg
 
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tenureplan

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I would take Power and Frazier over Bryant and Hood. Hood will end up being far better than Power was I am sure though.

The biggest difference to me is that the 2004 team played defense, went for lose balls, and had a Mr Clutch in Bowers. Those are the intangibles missing from this year's team.
 
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In 2004, we played good defense, and confused teams with different styles. I remember in a few close games, we would switch to a 1-3-1 defense with Vincent up top. It seems we'd do this a lot of the times after the 8:00 TO; it was just enough to confuse the opposing offense for a few possessions and we could pull away. I'm no basketball genius, but I don't understand why we don't do something similar this year.

Also, Bowers and Frazier were good 3pt defenders; they were deceptively long and managed to block several 3pt attempts each that year.
 
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tenureplan said:
I would take Power and Frazier over Bryant and Hood. Hood will end up being far better than Power was I am sure though.

The biggest difference to me is that the 2004 team played defense, went for lose balls, and had a Mr Clutch in Bowers. Those are the intangibles missing from this year's team.
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Bowers for his clutch play and Vincent would mean the world to us on the defensive end. ****, this team would be a LOT better if we just swapped Sidney and Vincent, despite Sidney being a better talent and offensive player
 
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and Hilarity ensued!

"Winsome Frazier (* August 2 1982 in Miami , Florida ) is an American basketball player who since 2006 in Europe, playing as a professional, including two seasons in the German Basketball League at the Telekom Baskets from Bonn .

During his studies in his native country at the Mississippi State University, Frazier played for the Bulldogs called high school team in the NCAA Division I. The Bulldogs, he was one of the best three-point throw shooting - he is co-owner of record for the most successful of three of eight in a game - and best Ballerorberern and, in these two categories among the all-time top ten lists in the record of this team are."
 
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In 1996 State dropped a few midseason games they shouldn't have and were sitting at 18-7 before going on a tear. They were also 6-4 in SEC at one point before finishing 10-6.<div>
</div><div>In 2012 State has dropped a few midseason games they shouldn't have and are sitting at 19-6 before ...... (falling in the *******, going on a tear, finishing mediocre). State is also 6-4 in SEC at this point.</div><div>
</div><div>Someone always makes these comparisons, so thought I'd look at it to see where it matches up. I don't think this team has the leadership the 1996 team had, however I think the talent is equal or better this year.</div><div>
</div><div>Thoughts?</div>
 
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Coach34

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And they didnt bring it every night- but started getting excited as the end of the season came along. It was also a case of Dontae figuring out what he was going to have to do to stay on the court to satisfy Williams

This team looks like they just dont really give a **** at times- much different than coasting.
 
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More of the same and we end up on the bubble, 8-9 seed at best. IF we play a little defence and show a little more heart late, we get in 5-8 seed. Getting to the Sweet 16 would be really outstanding for this team. </p>
 
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