I think we will struggle on offense much of this year. If you look at spread installations at programs it usually takes one full year before teams are able to run it effectively. Once the light bulb goes off, it is great, but it usually starts slow (i.e. Rich Rodriguez at Michigan and West Virginia, Myer at Florida). Southern Miss struggled with it last year until about mid year and then the light went on for them. I am hopeful that are light clicks sooner rather than later to at least make the games interesting. I think a lot of the struggles have to do with the blocking schemes in the spread and getting the O-line to gel. I am not expecting much early on, but I hope to see the improvements as the season progresses and at least see some flashes. Defense is kind of a wild card. A part of me see us being better than last year on defense, but there is a voice in my head telling me that we lost an awful lot in the secondary and we will struggle. If we struggle on defense, there will be some lopsided victories by the opponents. Hopefully Torbush will be in top form and get this unit playing at a high level. I am going to go out on a limb and predict a woolly 6-6 record. In 2010 we should be much improved with a seasoned offensive line with a year in the spread and a very good and veteran defense. What say ye?
2009 MSU Football thoughts....
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I think we will struggle on offense much of this year. If you look at spread installations at programs it usually takes one full year before teams are able to run it effectively. Once the light bulb goes off, it is great, but it usually starts slow (i.e. Rich Rodriguez at Michigan and West Virginia, Myer at Florida). Southern Miss struggled with it last year until about mid year and then the light went on for them. I am hopeful that are light clicks sooner rather than later to at least make the games interesting. I think a lot of the struggles have to do with the blocking schemes in the spread and getting the O-line to gel. I am not expecting much early on, but I hope to see the improvements as the season progresses and at least see some flashes. Defense is kind of a wild card. A part of me see us being better than last year on defense, but there is a voice in my head telling me that we lost an awful lot in the secondary and we will struggle. If we struggle on defense, there will be some lopsided victories by the opponents. Hopefully Torbush will be in top form and get this unit playing at a high level. I am going to go out on a limb and predict a woolly 6-6 record. In 2010 we should be much improved with a seasoned offensive line with a year in the spread and a very good and veteran defense. What say ye?
I think we will struggle on offense much of this year. If you look at spread installations at programs it usually takes one full year before teams are able to run it effectively. Once the light bulb goes off, it is great, but it usually starts slow (i.e. Rich Rodriguez at Michigan and West Virginia, Myer at Florida). Southern Miss struggled with it last year until about mid year and then the light went on for them. I am hopeful that are light clicks sooner rather than later to at least make the games interesting. I think a lot of the struggles have to do with the blocking schemes in the spread and getting the O-line to gel. I am not expecting much early on, but I hope to see the improvements as the season progresses and at least see some flashes. Defense is kind of a wild card. A part of me see us being better than last year on defense, but there is a voice in my head telling me that we lost an awful lot in the secondary and we will struggle. If we struggle on defense, there will be some lopsided victories by the opponents. Hopefully Torbush will be in top form and get this unit playing at a high level. I am going to go out on a limb and predict a woolly 6-6 record. In 2010 we should be much improved with a seasoned offensive line with a year in the spread and a very good and veteran defense. What say ye?
It will take some time for us to become acclimated to the new offensive schemes. Luckily, the "easy" part of our schedule is at the beginning of the season. However, as Mullen has said numerous times, he will adapt the offense to our current personnel. I don't think that he will sacrifice this year for the sake of completely changing the schemes. Rodriguez at Michigan did sacrifice their season last year to install a new offense. Mullen won't try to pound the square peg into the round hole. He wants to put points on the board, period. If he sees that the best way to score is by running a 2 back set, then he'll do that and incorporate screen passes, wheel routes, etc. into the mix. It should be interesting to see him make adjustments on the fly as the game goes on. I feel confident that he and Hudspeth will be able to recognize what the defense is giving us and exploit it to keep the chains moving. With regard to our defense, I agree that we are a bit shaky at the corner position. We will have to get pressure on the QB to help mask our weaknesses in the secondary. We need McPhee, Ferguson, & possibly Wright to be effective pass rushers for us. It should be exciting for us long-suffering Bulldog fans to actually watch a coaching staff scheme and adapt as the game evolves. Been a long time coming.
But I don't think that the offense will take as long for our players to pick up. We have a senior QB, and that's going to help out a lot. I think we're going to see marked improvement on special teams as well, and that's going to win us a game or two.
our secondary and our O line will surprise.... I think the strength coach we have now is a big difference
6 wins.....
6 wins.....
...on offense, but I believe we will score a LOT more than Croom's teams ever did. I give that edge for coaching, scheme, better preparation and them now having the belief they can win. We also have more speed, although very young. As for defense, I think we will be better on defense than last year, despite some questions in the secondary. We lost Pegues, who had a down year, Fitzhugh, Glanton and O'Quinn. Mitchell is going to be better than Pegues. Anderson will eventually be better than O'Quinn, so FS is my only concern, because Zach sometimes takes too many chances. Wade Bonner may push him a few games into the season.squirldawg said:
Earlier, I predicted 7-5, but I now have more concerns about offensive line depth after the injuries. I think we can go 7-5 if we get Tobias Smith back and we then stay healthy. Otherwise, I see 5-7 or 6-6.
.....I wouldn't even count on MTSU being a win. It's a road game, and MTSU has given teams from BCS conferences a tough time in the past. MSU only beat them by 9 in Starkville last year. I still think MSU will win, but you never know. So anyway, MSU will go anywhere from 1-11 to 3-9.
A new coaching staff, a new philosophy, and a new "Spread the Fun" slogan are all fine and good, but they won't translate to wins at MSU. This is a losing program, always has been and always will be. There will be the occasional winning season blip on the radar in the middle of a sea of losing seasons, but nothing to really brag about. The reality is that Ole Miss is the only program in this state that has any chance of sustaining success and competing for titles in the SEC. Title contention won't happen often for them, but they'll get more opportunities over a 20-year period than MSU will get over 100 years. They have the resources, the media backing, and the drive/desire to win in football that MSU has never had. They'll do whatever it takes. They may never be one of the "elite" SEC teams on a regular basis, but at least they aspire to be. That's why they're a pre-season top 10 SEC contender this year. I expect them to make it to Atlanta. Don't know if they'll win the championship, but they'll have a shot. If they do win the SEC Championship and/or make it to the BCS title game, that'll just about do in any fleeting hope that MSU fans have left. Nevermind whether or not the MSU football team is winning. You won't even be able to wake up in the morning and go to work without having someone or something remind you that Ole Miss is a champion, and MSU football is still going through it's perennial "rebuilding" mode. That's not to mention how difficult it'll be to convince top recruits to stay away from a championship program in Oxford. I think Dan Mullen is and will be a great head coach one day, but he chose the wrong program if he expects to have any real success anytime soon. Hopefully his time at MSU won't damage what potential future employers think of his coaching ability.
Honestly, my entire outlook and attitude about everything has changed drastically over the last few months. I actually look forward to Ole Miss having a great year and finally doing in MSU football once and for all. That way I won't ever have to worry about getting my hopes up again for a program that does nothing but bore you half to death and let you down time and time again after wasting a few more dollars and hours of your time in the Fall.
And don't even throw that "pessimist" word at me anymore. This is actually just honesty. It's the most honest thing I've ever said on any message board. In this case, honesty and truth go hand-in-hand.
A new coaching staff, a new philosophy, and a new "Spread the Fun" slogan are all fine and good, but they won't translate to wins at MSU. This is a losing program, always has been and always will be. There will be the occasional winning season blip on the radar in the middle of a sea of losing seasons, but nothing to really brag about. The reality is that Ole Miss is the only program in this state that has any chance of sustaining success and competing for titles in the SEC. Title contention won't happen often for them, but they'll get more opportunities over a 20-year period than MSU will get over 100 years. They have the resources, the media backing, and the drive/desire to win in football that MSU has never had. They'll do whatever it takes. They may never be one of the "elite" SEC teams on a regular basis, but at least they aspire to be. That's why they're a pre-season top 10 SEC contender this year. I expect them to make it to Atlanta. Don't know if they'll win the championship, but they'll have a shot. If they do win the SEC Championship and/or make it to the BCS title game, that'll just about do in any fleeting hope that MSU fans have left. Nevermind whether or not the MSU football team is winning. You won't even be able to wake up in the morning and go to work without having someone or something remind you that Ole Miss is a champion, and MSU football is still going through it's perennial "rebuilding" mode. That's not to mention how difficult it'll be to convince top recruits to stay away from a championship program in Oxford. I think Dan Mullen is and will be a great head coach one day, but he chose the wrong program if he expects to have any real success anytime soon. Hopefully his time at MSU won't damage what potential future employers think of his coaching ability.
Honestly, my entire outlook and attitude about everything has changed drastically over the last few months. I actually look forward to Ole Miss having a great year and finally doing in MSU football once and for all. That way I won't ever have to worry about getting my hopes up again for a program that does nothing but bore you half to death and let you down time and time again after wasting a few more dollars and hours of your time in the Fall.
And don't even throw that "pessimist" word at me anymore. This is actually just honesty. It's the most honest thing I've ever said on any message board. In this case, honesty and truth go hand-in-hand.
You might need to stay away from sharp objects for a while. We finally have a real President and a young, energetic, proactive Athletic Director that truly cares about winning and NOW you think there is no hope. We had a pathetic excuse for a coach, a pathetic excuse for an AD, and no real leadership at University President. I could understand your sentiment if it was posted last year but not now. Lighten up, Francis!!!
5-7 not 2-10
I agree with Todd, Special teams should win us at least one more game than last year.
Also we have a coach who knows how to get the good players the ball.
As for Ole Miss and BCS is like them in Omaha, it aint happening. They will go 8-4 losing to S.Carolina ,Tenn, Bama and LSU
I agree with Todd, Special teams should win us at least one more game than last year.
Also we have a coach who knows how to get the good players the ball.
As for Ole Miss and BCS is like them in Omaha, it aint happening. They will go 8-4 losing to S.Carolina ,Tenn, Bama and LSU
No, please get him a sharp weapon and some Alcohol that everyone seems to be so proud that it can be served in the patch on Sundays and save us anymore of this bs. If this is what you think, just don't get in the way of the rest of us who actually see some positve things happening for the first time in my lifetime. May want to ask why we have never sustained success with fan support of this magnatude.
If this is your honest feeling about our program, PLEASE LEAVE. Go cheer for Mississippi, as it seems that would make you happier. Whatever you do, just stay the hell away from Mississippi State. You'll be happier, and we'll be better off without your loser mentality. As Coach Sherrill has said repeatedly, we CAN win and we DESERVE to win. To reiterate, please, leave our program and go cheer for Mississippi.
/Jeebus, you make me feel like a Swan Lake member having to call you out like this.
/Jeebus, you make me feel like a Swan Lake member having to call you out like this.
I hope you are trolling. Or drunk. Because if you honestly feel this way, then I feel sorry for your miserable ***. What a horrible attitude.
Over the last 20 years, time has proven that a one to three year spike in football success for State or Ole Miss does not translate to the other program drowning. Please, please stop posting. Pessimist doesn't even begin to describe you. You are a bitter loser who needs to quit following college sports. Just fuc.k off; I think it will be good for your mental health in the long run.
I watched a clip last night, '99 Peach Bowl I believe, where Robert Bean blocked a FG. The announcer stated that was the 7th kick we had blocked that year!! Can you imagine that? When is the last time we blocked a kick? 7?Todd4State said:
...because that is the most depressing post I have ever seen you write. I never thought I would ever see you write a post so anti-State and pro scUM, but you did. After reading that, I hope you are forced to eat your words. Larry Templeton is gone. We have a creative young Athletic Director who wants consistent success in all sports. We now have a football coach who is innovative, respects tradition, and does what needs to be done. He hasn't played his first game, and you write that?
in ticket sales, Tyler Russell, Dan the Man taught Tebow, and invented Florida's offense...The Ninja will NOT let your prediction stand! Get your head up...Has Clinton been hit by an earthquake or something...lighten up. Annnnnnnnd, what in the Hell has Ole Miss got to do with OUR season prediction???? SPREAD THE FUN LIKE MAYONAISE, BABY!!!!
The big question marks in my mind are whether : (1) we can get a legit pass rush and (2) the secondary will be servicable. If so, I think our revamped offense will produce about 4 to 5 more points a game than last year, and we should be able to squeeze out 6 wins; it'll be New Years at the Weedeater Bowl.</p>
...Waking up every morning knowing you follow a team you obviously loathe. Maybe it's time to man up and change allegiances, or maybe talk to your doctor about uping your Zoloft prescription.
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If I'm not mistaken, last year our offense produced 17 points per game on average. I'm hoping we can score 25 or more points per game on average. That's an increase of at least 8 points per game.
this guy is a psychopath that plagued genespage message boards, and, if I'm not mistaken, the rivals site too. the guy is an ole miss fan. I don't know if that was always the case b/c it's scary to think that someone would spend so much time pretending to be an MSU fan just to get digs like this post in, but I do wonder. The guy's a joke and an idiot and has never offered anything constructive. While I do tend to think 6 or 7 wins is very wooly (and 3 is not outside the realm of possibility), I'm thinking 4-5 wins is very realistic this year with a bowl game at the end of next year.
BTW: In the last 30 years, MSU sustained a longer successful run in the SEC than @@$# has put together, so your whole tirade is flawed and ignorant.
BTW: In the last 30 years, MSU sustained a longer successful run in the SEC than @@$# has put together, so your whole tirade is flawed and ignorant.
save youe gas money and stay home. You and your negative energy are not needed at Scott Field. Positive people.....positive.....
With our schedule 4 wins will be par for this year and 5-6 will be a blessing from above. I just can't see us winning less than 4 games.
With our schedule 4 wins will be par for this year and 5-6 will be a blessing from above. I just can't see us winning less than 4 games.
Are actually a fan of Mississippi State sports in general, let alone MSU football. No real State fan I know, no matter how positive or negative, would ever say they look forward to Ole Miss having a great year and "doing in" MSU football.. Are you kidding me? That's awful, and I am far from woolish but if that's how you really feel then that's an awful way to view MSU sports and life and general and I feel sorry for you.
this team is gonna be better than people think we're gonna be. He's been around plenty of our ****** football teams to know, because he coached a few of them. We'll at least go 5-7 & maybe get that 6th win & go to a itty bitty bowl game...I like this Mullen guy.
because we are more than likely not going to be good but Arrow just takes it over the top. It's funny to read.
Your post is ridiculous and the fact you used the Ole Miss acronym that Mullen says makes it that much worse.
There is no doubt that you are the worst moderator in the history of message boards. Do you get paid to sit around and make thousands of idiotic posts? Why don't you spend a few minutes offline every once in a while and get a life?
I'm not the only one who made that claim, so it's not lost on me that you have some sort of man-crush on me.
I'm not the only one who made that claim, so it's not lost on me that you have some sort of man-crush on me.
Watch out for the "geez, guys, I was being facetious" post, or the "fine, I'm never posting here again" post soon to follow.
I would probably want to blow my brains out if I were that miserable. We have so much more to be excited about now. Like you said, yes we are going to suck this year, and maybe even next, but you can see the change in attitude from the top of the athletic department down, and I have never been quite this excited about the future. Only Arrow could see the gloomy side of things.
I would probably want to blow my brains out if I were that miserable. We have so much more to be excited about now. Like you said, yes we are going to suck this year, and maybe even next, but you can see the change in attitude from the top of the athletic department down, and I have never been quite this excited about the future. Only Arrow could see the gloomy side of things.
actually he does. sweet bigscreen at the godfather's crib
it warms my heart every time i see someone post on a message board that someone else who is posting on a message board should take some time off and get a life rather than post on a message board.
actually you are the only one
That is what I am betting is going to happen. Or some stupid post about not jinxing State and jinxing OM.
To others: He is a State fan. He was on the dawgnews listserve at one time, a member of the IBBC, and I believe a part of BOMB at one time. Dude seemingly lives and dies by MSU sports. Therefore....the emotional rollercoaster.