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Ok I'll bite on this one...if Naperville North isn't already looking let this be a wake up call!

Is the north side of town that barren? I know there are 3-4 kids from that end at Montini, but wow, NC doesn't seem to have much trouble.
 

godfthr53

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Is the north side of town that barren? I know there are 3-4 kids from that end at Montini, but wow, NC doesn't seem to have much trouble.
There's also some on Naz from that side of town. Probably close to the same 3-4 amount.
 

jwarigaku

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I would venture to say that there is certainly talent and players in the hallways...perhaps not all-stars but certainly better than 2-14 in the last two years. It's all about working with what you have and finding the right O&D to run with the players you have. I think it's safe to say with the current results that's just not happening.

Is the north side of town that barren? I know there are 3-4 kids from that end at Montini, but wow, NC doesn't seem to have much trouble.
 

ClownBaby

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I would think if NN gets a new coach they will get it right this time the new AD was very successful at WWS finding good people. I know ultimately it is the Principals decision but the AD recommendation does matter.

The interesting thing with the Drendal hire was the he got the position over an extremely successful coach from another school with multiple states titles. In fairness to him there are some outside demographic changes that will be a problem for who ever takes over the program.
 

Raider PA man

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Bloomington will be in the hunt of a new head coach...Rigo Schmelzer will retire at the end of the school year after being on the Purple Raider sideline as a football coach for 35 years, the last 22 as head coach. This is only the second time since 1978 that BHS is looking to fill this position.
 

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This season has gone fast... The playoffs are sneaking up on us.. It is already THIS time of year as well...
 

UlbKA91

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I would think if NN gets a new coach they will get it right this time the new AD was very successful at WWS finding good people. I know ultimately it is the Principals decision but the AD recommendation does matter.

The interesting thing with the Drendal hire was the he got the position over an extremely successful coach from another school with multiple states titles. In fairness to him there are some outside demographic changes that will be a problem for who ever takes over the program.
I always had the impression NN was the most shielded from demographic change of the big 4. Unless you are talking cricket and tennis.
 
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Hey Clowny isn't about time for WWS to part with their leader? I am hearing some discouraging things from player parents over there. It seems there is a total lack of interest in putting in the hours to prepare the kids for, what is now, possibly the toughest conference in the state.

Your thoughts?
 
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ClownBaby

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Hey Clowny isn't about time for WWS to part with their leader? I am hearing some discouraging things from player parents over there. It seems there is a total lack of interest in putting in the hours to prepare the kids for, what is now, possibly the toughest conference in the state.

You thoughts?

I wouldn't be surprised if WWS had a new coach next year since there are many problems with the program right now and Muhitch is already retired from teaching for the last two years. My gut says he is back next year for his final year but hopefully I'm wrong.

No clue who is the next coach at WWS since there is no clear favorite within the school so I think they have to go out and find a coach. The district pays well, has great facilities and it is a name program so they should have plenty of quality applicants for the position.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if WWS had a new coach next year since there are many problems with the program right now and Muhitch is already retired from teaching for the last two years. My gut says he is back next year for his final year but hopefully I'm wrong.

No clue who is the next coach at WWS since there is no clear favorite within the school so I think they have to go out and find a coach. The district pays well, has great facilities and it is a name program so they should have plenty of quality applicants for the position.

No doubt a plum position. I'm sure you guys will secure a high quality coach when the time comes. I just hope, for WWS sake, that Coach M decides to make a final season run by challenging all of the kids to put in the work. Not sure how you compete in DVC with a "lifting optional" style in the offseason.
 
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Tell me this you Private guys...is it better to coach a a suburban school with 2k-4k kids and a deep talent pool, or at a smaller private school?

I'm sure it comes down to the commitment to the program, but overall, are the perks better at Private? Do you get paid more because you are not constrained by the District pay structure?

I know at GW, the union contract sets flat fees for HC of any sport to be something like 18% of salary. Do Private schools generally pay more than that?
 

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Tell me this you Private guys...is it better to coach a a suburban school with 2k-4k kids and a deep talent pool, or at a smaller private school?

I'm sure it comes down to the commitment to the program, but overall, are the perks better at Private? Do you get paid more because you are not constrained by the District pay structure?

I know at GW, the union contract sets flat fees for HC of any sport to be something like 18% of salary. Do Private schools generally pay more than that?

One factor that plays against some of the "suburban schools...deep talent pool" is the ability of the HC to aquire talented Assistant coaches. Many schools require current faculty and staff to fill those spots. Whereas you may have a solid HC the people below him are not always of the same caliber.
 
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Hetlett will leave is he wins state.

I can hear the microphone dropping now.

My sources say the new Benz he is driving was purchased by NN parents as a "birthday gift"
 

BJB7

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Is the north side of town that barren? I know there are 3-4 kids from that end at Montini, but wow, NC doesn't seem to have much trouble.

The talent is there the Sophomore squad went 7-2 i believe last year. I honestly cannot remember a game in the last three years that I have said NN outcoached that team. Yet every week they are consistently out coached. When was the last time if he even has yet beaten GBN, WN?
 

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I would venture to say that there is certainly talent and players in the hallways...perhaps not all-stars but certainly better than 2-14 in the last two years. It's all about working with what you have and finding the right O&D to run with the players you have. I think it's safe to say with the current results that's just not happening.
Doesn't Benet get a lot of kids that would go to Naperville North, granted, most of those kids probably went to private school growing up.
 
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The GBW crew will be up in arms if this is accurate.

Up in arms? Not sure anyone at GW believes they have any say in what Hetlett does for his family. A couple of years ago a large CA school recruited him and had facilities like a university that seated 15k for a home game. GW has unique environment, a high quality tradition laden conference and incredibly supportive families. He has one NFL player now and might have four in two years time. He is building a record and tradition that the families of GW appreciate.

The reality is that GW has put up an incredible record (not MCHS or SHG incredible, but WSS incredible) and Hetlett is the one constant. He has had (pretty sure about this) complete turnover in his coaching staff since he came, as in no one coach that has been here every year. Multiple coaches have left to coach other schools or sports, so it is not like he has a team of 8 coaches that have been with him for 9 years.

I hate writing this because I am sure he will see this and I wouldn't want to add 1% into the "leave" column, but there are schools in the country with very large budgets that would do anything to have a coach that makes the kind of impact he has at GW. It is a free-market economy where people pay for product. We at GW do our best to pay for that product through fundraisers etc, but heck, I want to see a show of hands of folks that would turn down a significant raise with better benefits in someplace warmer than Chicago.

<crickets>

He has turned them down once...here's hoping he does again.
 

jwarigaku

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Some, but I wouldn't say a lot, they pull students from I think 5 or 6 surrounding counties. Naperville North football is what it is because of what its become.

Doesn't Benet get a lot of kids that would go to Naperville North, granted, most of those kids probably went to private school growing up.
 
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Topiarydan1

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A reasonable question surrounds Rita - especially if they go 3-6? Will Zunica attempt to push Kuska out or give him til next year to right the ship? I think he should stay. Has a lot of great relationships with parish coaches.
 

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Concerning NN, I looked at their lower levels. Soph (which I put least amount of stock with people up) are 2-5 and their frosh are 1-6 just lost to NC 40-0.
 

ubsw353

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After a tough season this year in his first year do you think the job at Taft will open up?
 

JFelice

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After a tough season this year in his first year do you think the job at Taft will open up?
One year at a school like Taft? Geez that's harsh! Taft isn't Mt Carmel let's be realistic here, there better be some sort of scandal for a school like Taft to fire a coach after 1 year.
 

mc140

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Tell me this you Private guys...is it better to coach a a suburban school with 2k-4k kids and a deep talent pool, or at a smaller private school?

I'm sure it comes down to the commitment to the program, but overall, are the perks better at Private? Do you get paid more because you are not constrained by the District pay structure?

I know at GW, the union contract sets flat fees for HC of any sport to be something like 18% of salary. Do Private schools generally pay more than that?

Smaller private school is the easiest place to win if there is money pumped into the program. Hardest place to win if there is no money pumped in to the program.

If accurate, 18% of salary is a ton of money for a public school coach.There are very few (but they are out there) private school head coaches that make more money when you include teaching pay than a public school coach.
 
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Smaller private school is the easiest place to win if there is money pumped into the program. Hardest place to win if there is no money pumped in to the program.

If accurate, 18% of salary is a ton of money for a public school coach.There are very few (but they are out there) private school head coaches that make more money when you include teaching pay than a public school coach.
The 18% applies to all sanctioned sports as well. So salary is a function of years served and HC spiff is a kicker.

And you are saying that is likely more than all but the few most highly successful Private coaches?

The reason I ask is that we tried to recruit a coach for a different sport as a HC and he turned us down for a assistant gig at a private. Part of the situation was teaching cert, but he made it seem like the Private gig was much better than our public one.

Pretty sure the district I lived in Austin TX had an uncapped HC salary which I heard rumblings that HC received $1/4M by the time all stipends (car etc) were counted. That was '94 dollars and the school was public but you are talking Texas.
 

USD24

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Private school coaches rarely make more than public school coaches, especially asst. coaches. When I coached at a private school, many of the asst coaches were volunteers.
 
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ClownBaby

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Private school coaches rarely make more than public school coaches, especially asst. coaches. When I coached at a private school, many of the asst coaches were volunteers.

At the Wheaton schools (North and South) they are given 8 paid positions for the football program, 4 varsity, 2 sophomore and 2 freshman coaches. The head varsity coach gets a full stipend then they usually split up the rest among various coaches. Both schools have a large contingent of volunteer coaches since the 90's when they cut down from 12 paid positions to 8.
 

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The 18% applies to all sanctioned sports as well. So salary is a function of years served and HC spiff is a kicker.

Not exactly Capn'. All this info is available in public documents. Below is the current Glenbard 87 teachers contract.

http://www.glenbard87.org/Files/GEA_Contract.pdf

Top of the salary scale for current school year (page 59) with 20+ years and Masters + 45 hours = $122.5K. 20+ years and Masters + 0 hours = $109.2K.

Extra curriculars are detailed on page 52. More years in a position yields a greater percentage. I assume Hetlet is in the 11-20 year range @ 21.25%. There is also a $30/day bonus for the playoffs.
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I assume many of the suburban public school districts are similar. I could not find Hinsdale 86 contract online, but here are some others.

http://www.barrington220.org/cms/lib2/IL01001296/Centricity/Domain/2731/2349/BEA_CONTRACT.pdf

http://adc.d211.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Teacher-Contract-2014-2018.pdf

http://www.d214.org/assets/1/6/EA_Cumulative_Agreement_2014-2019_Final.pdf

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So MC63, FYI there are really not that many experienced teachers making under $60K/year.

Also, unlike most businesses that may be forced to downsize and reduce costs, school districts contracts mandate that only the lowest paid teachers be released first, before any of the highest paid teachers.
 
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Thanks GE...I was not 100% sure of my numbers for all positions/years, but knew the 18% applied to the given circumstances under which we reviewed.
 
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OK...seems fair...football assistant spiffed the same as Tennis or XC HC. The 18% number was for a GRoup II sport so they must have rounded up the 17.5% to 18%. Great read and thanks again