2015. Chuck Schumer, A Syrian refugee pause may be necessary

WVPATX

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Chuck Schumer Supported The Ban In 2015
On Sunday, Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer cried while describing President Trump, calling his actions “mean spirited and un-American.”

But back in November of 2015 the same Chuck Schumer said that a halt of Syrian refugees may be necessary after the Paris attacks happened that killed well over 100 innocent people.

From The Hill:

Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the third ranking member of the Senate Democratic leadership, on Tuesday said it may be necessary to halt the resettlement of Syrian refugees in the United States.

Republicans immediately seized on Schumer’s comment, which breaks with other Democrats who have argued against halting the program.

Schumer, however, declined to take the option off the table ahead of a special briefing scheduled for Wednesday afternoon on the process that is now used to vet refugees entering the United States.

“We’re waiting for the briefing tomorrow, a pause may be necessary. We’re going to look at it,” he said…

…A spokeswoman for Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) highlighted Schumer’s statement as an example of “bipartisan concern” over refugees.

In summary, Chuck Schumer is playing the American people along with the mainstream media because it is now politically expedient for the Democratic party as it desperately tries to rebuild it’s party after losing over 1,000 seats nationwide to the Republicans.

 

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My god, are you really that simple minded? You don't understand the difference about talking about a possible action as it pertains to immigration and implementing a very bad policy in a very amateur way based on religion and segregating certain countries? Get your head out of your *** for once.
 
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Would this be similar to when the right cried about Obama's abuse of EOs?

By the way, had this been executed correctly, there likely would have been little outcry and protest. Most American's would agree that stronger vetting of people traveling from these countries is pretty important. But to deny folks in route or with valid visas was harsh and really unnecessary. So much hate for Trump that anything he does is wrong to 50% of Americans. Not confirmed by me but stopping Syrian families on their way who had been vetted was pretty lame if true. I read where that happened. (Not confirmed by me)
 

WVPATX

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Would this be similar to when the right cried about Obama's abuse of EOs?

By the way, had this been executed correctly, there likely would have been little outcry and protest. Most American's would agree that stronger vetting of people traveling from these countries is pretty important. But to deny folks in route or with valid visas was harsh and really unnecessary. So much hate for Trump that anything he does is wrong to 50% of Americans. Not confirmed by me but stopping Syrian families on their way who had been vetted was pretty lame if true. I read where that happened. (Not confirmed by me)

Well, according to Rasmussen 57% approval for this policy. If what I read today is correct, only 109 or so from a total of 325,000 were impacted. The media and liberals are making a mountain out of a mole hill, imo. I also read today that more advanced notice was considered and rejected because the intelligence community feared possible terrorists would speed up travel plans.
 

bornaneer

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Chuck Schumer Supported The Ban In 2015
On Sunday, Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer cried while describing President Trump, calling his actions “mean spirited and un-American.”

But back in November of 2015 the same Chuck Schumer said that a halt of Syrian refugees may be necessary after the Paris attacks happened that killed well over 100 innocent people.

From The Hill:

Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the third ranking member of the Senate Democratic leadership, on Tuesday said it may be necessary to halt the resettlement of Syrian refugees in the United States.

Republicans immediately seized on Schumer’s comment, which breaks with other Democrats who have argued against halting the program.

Schumer, however, declined to take the option off the table ahead of a special briefing scheduled for Wednesday afternoon on the process that is now used to vet refugees entering the United States.

“We’re waiting for the briefing tomorrow, a pause may be necessary. We’re going to look at it,” he said…

…A spokeswoman for Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) highlighted Schumer’s statement as an example of “bipartisan concern” over refugees.

In summary, Chuck Schumer is playing the American people along with the mainstream media because it is now politically expedient for the Democratic party as it desperately tries to rebuild it’s party after losing over 1,000 seats nationwide to the Republicans.

Your factual posts are causing the nuts major pain. You might want to dumb it down a little and take into consideration the mental capability of who you are dealing with. They aren't interested in facts. At least Boom has an open mind and deals with it in an understanding way. Most of the others scurry like rats when the light of fact is focused upon them.
 
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Well, according to Rasmussen 57% approval for this policy. If what I read today is correct, only 109 or so from a total of 325,000 were impacted. The media and liberals are making a mountain out of a mole hill, imo. I also read today that more advanced notice was considered and rejected because the intelligence community feared possible terrorists would speed up travel plans.

was there any intel that terrorist were on their way? Maybe so. Not sure about the number. I read somewhere that there were many coming from various spots where they weren't allowed to board their flights to the US.

Again, had they allowed people with valid visas to travel, I doubt that there would have been much uproar. I wasn't protesting.

However, I do think we should let more displaced Syrian families into the US as well as afghan and Iraqi operatives and their families who served the US well.
 

WVPATX

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Your factual posts are causing the nuts major pain. You might want to dumb it down a little and take into consideration the mental capability of who you are dealing with. They aren't interested in facts. At least Boom has an open mind and deals with it in an understanding way. Most of the others scurry like rats when the light of fact is focused upon them.

One poster even essentially claimed that since this happened in 1975 it was so long ago and should be ignored.
 

WVPATX

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was there any intel that terrorist were on their way? Maybe so. Not sure about the number. I read somewhere that there were many coming from various spots where they weren't allowed to board their flights to the US.

Again, had they allowed people with valid visas to travel, I doubt that there would have been much uproar. I wasn't protesting.

However, I do think we should let more displaced Syrian families into the US as well as afghan and Iraqi operatives and their families who served the US well.

I think many were in airports overseas and not allowed to board. It is interesting that my wife was traveling on that day from Beirut, through Frankfort to Dallas. She is Lebanese but a citizen. It is the fastest she has ever made it through customs. Our friend was also traveling, he is Lebanese, a citizen, but he was interrogated for 3 hours in Frankfort and 2 more hours in Dallas.

There is an exception on a case by case basis for those that you describe above. I think the issue is do we actually know who they are and what danger they pose. The 109 have already been processed.

I worry about visas. The 9/11 terrorists all had visas if I remember correctly. Even visa holders need to be vetted properly. The San Bernadino killers' wife passed her visa application even though she had visited radical jihadist sites prior to her application.
 
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I think many were in airports overseas and not allowed to board. It is interesting that my wife was traveling on that day from Beirut, through Frankfort to Dallas. She is Lebanese but a citizen. It is the fastest she has ever made it through customs. Our friend was also traveling, he is Lebanese, a citizen, but he was interrogated for 3 hours in Frankfort and 2 more hours in Dallas.

There is an exception on a case by case basis for those that you describe above. I think the issue is do we actually know who they are and what danger they pose. The 109 have already been processed.

I worry about visas. The 9/11 terrorists all had visas if I remember correctly. Even visa holders need to be vetted properly. The San Bernadino killers' wife passed her visa application even though she had visited radical jihadist sites prior to her application.

I don't know anything about visas but complying with the Anti Money Laundering laws is complicated by middle eastern names. Many are the same or similar. First and last names reversed. Multiple names for the same person. Nearly impossible to match transactions and accounts to those of known bad guys
 

WVPATX

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I don't know anything about visas but complying with the Anti Money Laundering laws is complicated by middle eastern names. Many are the same or similar. First and last names reversed. Multiple names for the same person. Nearly impossible to match transactions and accounts to those of known bad guys

Very true. I have a friend in real estate that sold an estate for $4.5M. The Nigerian prince tried to pay in cash. It took months before the title company would actually settle the sale (U.S. government heavily involved in the transaction). This occurred a decade or so ago.