2025-26 PSU MBB Thread

bdgan

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OSU shoots 67% from the field in the first half. Quite a few layups and unguarded 3s.

Team looks defeated. I assume they get paid even if they mail it in.
 
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What would you do if you were Rhoades? I'd be tempted to empty the bench.
Leave now. There's still time to get another job. The longer this goes on the less likely he is to ever get another job.
 

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I'm trying to assess what PSU has going forward (assuming players return).

Juric has 7 pts and 5 rebounds. He's not a rim protector but he shows promise for a freshman.

Mingo no FGs, 3 assists, and 2 TOs. He has pretty much stopped trying to penetrate and create for his teammates. It's almost like he's lost interest.

Rice is probably our best perimeter shooter. He's only a sophomore.

Dillione is the only player capable of creating his own offense but he has too many defensive lapses. He's a junior.

Stewart actually plays hard but he just doesn't have it. It's not good when the announcers say "Stewart's the victim again".

Tunca has disappeared.
 

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Mingo is able to create a little bit more and kick out to shooters who are now making some shots from long distance. Good thing Rice is on today because he did nothing defensively first half. They’ve made it a game but still gonna be tough too keep getting stops on the defensive end.
 

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In the bonus already is huge. They’ve got a couple key players and some foul trouble, they’re just gonna have to attack the basket and make free throws.
 

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Mingo is able to create a little bit more and kick out to shooters who are now making some shots from long distance. Good thing Rice is on today because he did nothing defensively first half. They’ve made it a game but still gonna be tough too keep getting stops on the defensive end.
Mingo had 1 FG, 8 assists, and 4 TOs. His assists are like you said, he gets into the paint and kicks it out which is good. The problem is he doesn't have a perimeter shot and he usually isn't able to take it the whole way to the basket.

You're correct that comebacks require defensive stops, rebounds, and turnovers. PSU struggles with those things.

Tunca showed some energy down the stretch. Where was Dillione?
 

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Looking at the remainder of the schedule, a 2-18 Big Ten record may be possible. So we go that going for us, which is nice.
 
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Looking at the remainder of the schedule, a 2-18 Big Ten record may be possible. So we go that going for us, which is nice.
ND now is 11-10 and 2-6 in the ACC. I watched some of their game last night against UVA and they're were a lot of empty seats in their arena. So, Shewsberry in his third season doesn't appear to be gaining much traction with that program, even though he has a much more talented roster than PSU does.
 
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ND now is 11-10 and 2-6 in the ACC. I watched some of their game last night against UVA and they're were a lot of empty seats in their arena. So, Shewsberry in his third season doesn't appear to be gaimning much traction with that program, even though he has a much more talented roster than PSU does.
I am surprised he has not done better. He has easily been our best coach since Parkhill and I thought his recruiting and X/O ability would take them to the top half of the ACC. Wonder what kind of NIL they have for BB? I never figured they would get to top 5 status in the conference but much like PSU, top half probably gets you in the tourney every year now.
 

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ND now is 11-10 and 2-6 in the ACC. I watched some of their game last night against UVA and they're were a lot of empty seats in their arena. So, Shewsberry in his third season doesn't appear to be gaimning much traction with that program, even though he has a much more talented roster than PSU does.
Shrewsberry had another chance last nite.. up 3, UVA has the ball at 3 point line, 2.5 seconds to go, fouls and put them on the line! Nah! Made 3 and lose in the 2nd OT
 

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Shrewsberry had another chance last nite.. up 3, UVA has the ball at 3 point line, 2.5 seconds to go, fouls and put them on the line! Nah! Made 3 and lose in the 2nd OT
UVA has the type of team that PSU should strive to have; they aren't the most athletic, but they are a very fundamentally sound team, similar to the teams that Clemson always has under their current coach.
 
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Rutgers last nite… up 3 in regulation. They miss a FT that would have put them up 4. MSU rebounds runs ball up the floor throws ball to left corner. Maybe 3 seconds left… shooter catches ball and Rutgers allows him to catch, get feet set and fire. Overtime! I turned it off, no was MSU would lose now.
 

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Rutgers last nite… up 3 in regulation. They miss a FT that would have put them up 4. MSU rebounds runs ball up the floor throws ball to left corner. Maybe 3 seconds left… shooter catches ball and Rutgers allows him to catch, get feet set and fire. Overtime! I turned it off, no was MSU would lose now.
It's funny how stuff like that always seems to happen to teams like Rutgers and PSU but never to teams like MSU. In that ND-UVA game last night, ND was up at one point by close to 20 points at home and ended up losing.
 
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The odd thing about all this losing is that I feel like Rhodes is a good coach. I never felt that way with the others.
I thought he was a good coach too and a good hire but you are what your record says it is. I would be in favor of canning him at season's end. Only exception to that decision is if both Mingo and his brother decide to stay/come here. Then see what he can do with that. Otherwise this program is the worst in the B10 and it is not even close. That is not acceptable. A change is needed.
 

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The odd thing about all this losing is that I feel like Rhodes is a good coach. I never felt that way with the others.
Not disagreeing b/c I haven’t watched much. But what has he done at PSU to make you think he’s a good coach? The games I’ve watched the last two years all look like a re-run no matter who the opponent. And the high trap with a big, lumbering back to the lane, having help defenders try to close out from 20 feet away every possession is like playing against a video game on easy mode.

FWIW I think even a great coach would have challenges at PSU. Poor venue, lack of tradition and support, two competing winter sports on campus, etc.
 
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Not disagreeing b/c I haven’t watched much. But what has he done at PSU to make you think he’s a good coach? The games I’ve watched the last two years all look like a re-run no matter who the opponent. And the high trap with a big, lumbering back to the lane, having help defenders try to close out from 20 feet away every possession is like playing against a video game on easy mode.

FWIW I think even a great coach would have challenges at PSU. Poor venue, lack of tradition and support, two competing winter sports on campus, etc.
The issue is that this is his third season and the program is in complete shambles; I never expected him to turn PSU into MSU or even Wisconsin, but I also expected that there would be a concrete light at the end of the tunnel by now. Instead, it's the complete opposite. It also doesn't help that he has been completely unable to have a stable roster, so he has to basically fill out an entire team in the offseason every year. That's obviously no way to build a program. Finally, although PSU basketball really never has had an identity, his teams really have no identity except for the fact that they play horrible defense.
 

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Not disagreeing b/c I haven’t watched much. But what has he done at PSU to make you think he’s a good coach? The games I’ve watched the last two years all look like a re-run no matter who the opponent. And the high trap with a big, lumbering back to the lane, having help defenders try to close out from 20 feet away every possession is like playing against a video game on easy mode.

FWIW I think even a great coach would have challenges at PSU. Poor venue, lack of tradition and support, two competing winter sports on campus, etc.
That’s been my most concerning issue, he keeps running the same defense that he had when he brought his VCU guys like Ace and Nick. He doesn’t have the same guys to do that and so when the trap that you just pointed out happens, he doesn’t have the guys to recover. That’s why they are giving up 80 and 90 points every night
 
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The issue is that this is his third season and the program is in complete shambles; I never expected him to turn PSU into MSU or even Wisconsin, but I also expected that there would be a concrete light at the end of the tunnel by now. Instead, it's the complete opposite. It also doesn't help that he has been completely unable to have a stable roster, so he has to basically fill out an entire team in the offseason every year. That's obviously no way to build a program. Finally, although PSU basketball really never has had an identity, his teams really have no identity except for the fact that they play horrible defense.
Your point of not having a stable roster is the core problem. I don't know how much to blame him for that - circumstances were not kind. But can he fix it? Not sure how many of the young guys on the roster are Big 10 caliber players.
 

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That’s been my most concerning issue, he keeps running the same defense that he had when he brought his VCU guys like Ace and Nick. He doesn’t have the same guys to do that and so when the trap that you just pointed out happens, he doesn’t have the guys to recover. That’s why they are giving up 80 and 90 points every night
Exactly. He keeps saying he knows what he's doing, but he doesn't see the bigger picture. He does not have the talent to do in the B10 what he did in the A10. Sure he's no longer pressing full court, but the trapping and hedging isn't working either. I think he is stubborn and too hung up on what worked for him in the past.
 
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The issue is that this is his third season and the program is in complete shambles; I never expected him to turn PSU into MSU or even Wisconsin, but I also expected that there would be a concrete light at the end of the tunnel by now. Instead, it's the complete opposite. It also doesn't help that he has been completely unable to have a stable roster, so he has to basically fill out an entire team in the offseason every year. That's obviously no way to build a program. Finally, although PSU basketball really never has had an identity, his teams really have no identity except for the fact that they play horrible defense.
While defense (and rebounding) is the biggest problem, offense ain't so great either. I have no idea what Crispin is trying to accomplish. Way too much dribbling and not enough player and ball movement. Shrewsberry is the only PSU coach (perhaps also Parkhill) to have a coherent offensive approach.
 

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Something has to give tonight vs NW.

So far it's deja vu all over again. PSU doesn't defend the 3s and they allow offensive rebounds that are put back for 2nd chance points.

NW leads 45-40 at half. NW is shooting 58% and leads rebounds 17-12.

Juric playing well (9 pts, 4 reb, 3 assists). Rice is 3-4 from 3. The rest of the team is 1-7. Mingo continues to struggle (0 FG, 1 assist, 2 TOs).
 
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NW wins 94-73. They shot 60% from the field, won rebounds 34-21, and assists 30-19. They got 8 pts on layups on inbounds plays. PSU is the worst defensive team I can remember.

I don't understand why the PSU announcers act so surprised that opponents shoot so well from 3 against us. They act like it's bad luck. NW was only shooting 31% coming into the game. In my experience DII & DIII players can shoot a very high percentage from 3. The only thing stopping them is defenders getting in their face and PSU doesn't do that.