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psuno1

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Just sign Bo and JT keep Bohm and Stott if you want beat the Dodgers. Have to keep up.
 

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That’s an awful look for Dombrowski. This after letting Ranger walk to Boston.

No way around it now. They are running back a lesser version of last year’s team. What a missed offseason.

I wouldn't go full sports talk mode about this (WIP is in an uproar over the signing).

The word coming out is that the Phillies and Bichette had pretty much agreed to a 7-year deal, for a lot of money. However, Bichette ended up opting for the shorter term deal that the Mets were offering.

Ranger going elsewhere was pretty much a given. This was his chance to get a huge contract, and the Fightins just couldn't fit that in (especially as he's not been a season-long innings eater). I'll miss Ranger, but had already factored him in as leaving.

I'm not sure that the Fightins need a huge overhaul. A healthier Bryce, more production from the OF, and more effective middle to pre-closer relief pitching, could be enough, provided they can resign JT (which remains a question). They really were pretty darn competitive with the Dodgers in 2025, besting them in the season series during the year, and pretty competitive with them in the playoffs.
 
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I wouldn't go full sports talk mode about this (WIP is in an uproar over the signing).

The word coming out is that the Phillies and Bichette had pretty much agreed to a 7-year deal, for a lot of money. However, Bichette ended up opting for the shorter term deal that the Mets were offering.

Ranger going elsewhere was pretty much a given. This was his chance to get a huge contract, and the Fightins just couldn't fit that in (especially as he's not been a season-long innings eater). I'll miss Ranger, but had already factored him in as leaving.

I'm not sure that the Fightins need a huge overhaul. A healthier Bryce, more production from the OF, and more effective middle to pre-closer relief pitching, could be enough, provided they can resign JT (which remains a question). They really were pretty darn competitive with the Dodgers in 2025, besting them in the season series during the year, and pretty competitive with them in the playoffs.
Their stars will all be a year older and relying on more production from that lineup is more hopeful than anything.

Even if they were “right there” with what appeared to be a more vulnerable Dodgers team compared with years prior, LA just signed another mega star to improve.

The Phillies are relying on an aging core being more productive and some young players making significant contributions.

I understand why sports radio is upset.
 

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I wouldn't go full sports talk mode about this (WIP is in an uproar over the signing).

The word coming out is that the Phillies and Bichette had pretty much agreed to a 7-year deal, for a lot of money. However, Bichette ended up opting for the shorter term deal that the Mets were offering.

Ranger going elsewhere was pretty much a given. This was his chance to get a huge contract, and the Fightins just couldn't fit that in (especially as he's not been a season-long innings eater). I'll miss Ranger, but had already factored him in as leaving.

I'm not sure that the Fightins need a huge overhaul. A healthier Bryce, more production from the OF, and more effective middle to pre-closer relief pitching, could be enough, provided they can resign JT (which remains a question). They really were pretty darn competitive with the Dodgers in 2025, besting them in the season series during the year, and pretty competitive with them in the playoffs.
Respectfully disagree on the lesser overhaul Tom

As thry stand now they are still built as a team that will fizzle in the playoffs - short term

long term DDs decisions are putting the team in a precarious position potentially
 
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Respectfully disagree on the lesser overhaul Tom

As thry stand now they are still built as a team that will fizzle in the playoffs - short term

long term DDs decisions are putting the team in a precarious position potentially
I think the Casty contract is what prevented them from signing Bichette. They have an annual budget and tried to offer more years and total $ at a lower per-year average.

Once Bo wanted a shorter-term, higher AAV contract, I suspect the $20M they’re on the hook with Casty for next year prevented that.

We’ll see how Bichette pans out in NY. Many remarked that he was getting to be quite expensive for a defensive liability who projects as a corner infielder in a year or two.

But he adds things at the plate that would have really balanced and helped the Phillies.
 
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I think the Casty contract is what prevented them from signing Bichette. They have an annual budget and tried to offer more years and total $ at a lower per-year average.

Once Bo wanted a shorter-term, higher AAV contract, I suspect the $20M they’re on the hook with Casty for next year prevented that.

We’ll see how Bichette pans out in NY. Many remarked that he was getting to be quite expensive for a defensive liability who projects as a corner infielder in a year or two.

But he adds things at the plate that would have really balanced and helped the Phillies.
Agree with everything - the challenge is still the offense in my opinion - and they’ve done literally nothing to improve it so, unless there is another move up their sleeve, we can look forward to a good season and an early playoff exit again with
 
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I think the Casty contract is what prevented them from signing Bichette. They have an annual budget and tried to offer more years and total $ at a lower per-year average.

Once Bo wanted a shorter-term, higher AAV contract, I suspect the $20M they’re on the hook with Casty for next year prevented that.

We’ll see how Bichette pans out in NY. Many remarked that he was getting to be quite expensive for a defensive liability who projects as a corner infielder in a year or two.

But he adds things at the plate that would have really balanced and helped the Phillies.
Bichette can opt out after every year of the contract. Plus is he worth more annually than
Aaron Judge? Don’t think so.
 

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Ok here’s what they do now - pivot

- still trade Bohm
- let Aiden M play 3rd

I don’t care how young he is - let him play

balanced out your payroll and age

plus I think he is gonna be a stud anyway
 
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Maybe Bo took this deal because he knows the lockout is imminent. Baseball is broken. Did the Phils need to offer 45-50 mil per year? At this point, give Bellenger whatever he wants. The current OF is brutal.
 

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No on Bader. That was the best 6-7 weeks of his career at the plate. He is not that good a hitter

new blood. Let’s see if Crawford can play. It’s time
Agree. I love what Bader did when he was with the Phils but I wouldn't expect similar stats over the long term from a guy who is a career .247 hitter and who will be 32 YOA in June.
 

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the Dodgers now have almost guaranteed a strike after next year with the Tucker signing - they now have a payroll that equals the TOTAL of 5 current teams COMBINED! That is not sustainable.
 

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I’ve changed my kind on Bichette - things happen for a reason

Here’s the plan

- still trade Bohm
- bring up Miller and give him 3rd or 2nd or wherever

him plus Crawford and possibly Painter save some dough 💴

they’re young - who cares - the old guys have hit their max potential so move on

they’re rookies - they won’t be at the end of the year

what if they struggle? - the old guys that are here struggle

Really need to balance out the age of this lineup

if you bring them all up and really want to make a move go for Bellinger and shore up the OF for once

and if you don’t want to bring them up already then trade them all for Skubal 😀
 

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I’ve changed my kind on Bichette - things happen for a reason

Here’s the plan

- still trade Bohm
- bring up Miller and give him 3rd or 2nd or wherever

him plus Crawford and possibly Painter save some dough 💴

they’re young - who cares - the old guys have hit their max potential so move on

they’re rookies - they won’t be at the end of the year

what if they struggle? - the old guys that are here struggle

Really need to balance out the age of this lineup

if you bring them all up and really want to make a move go for Bellinger and shore up the OF for once

and if you don’t want to bring them up already then trade them all for Skubal 😀
That may be a part of Dombrowski’s official narrative now. They need to get younger and more cost-controlled. They also need to see what they have in some of these top prospects.

The risk is that they’re clearly a win-now roster and it’s hard to contend for a title while relying on rookies at two key positions.

I’d pass on $13M a year for Bader. Add that to Casty’s expiring contract and you had quite an AAV kitty for an impact free agent next year. If Bohm walks, then add another $10M to that and there’s your path with Miller.
 
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the Dodgers now have almost guaranteed a strike after next year with the Tucker signing - they now have a payroll that equals the TOTAL of 5 current teams COMBINED! That is not sustainable.
Good. A salary cap is long overdue. Salary cap or bust.
 
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I’ve changed my kind on Bichette - things happen for a reason

Here’s the plan

- still trade Bohm
- bring up Miller and give him 3rd or 2nd or wherever

him plus Crawford and possibly Painter save some dough 💴

they’re young - who cares - the old guys have hit their max potential so move on

they’re rookies - they won’t be at the end of the year

what if they struggle? - the old guys that are here struggle

Really need to balance out the age of this lineup

if you bring them all up and really want to make a move go for Bellinger and shore up the OF for once

and if you don’t want to bring them up already then trade them all for Skubal 😀
Here’s my concern with those three young guys. The management didn’t have confidence enough in them during the call up period at the end of last season. Instead, in Painter’s case, they signed a washed up starter who had been cut. That feels like a big red flag.
 
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Colt2169

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Here’s my concern with those three young guys. The management didn’t have confidence enough in them during the call up period at the end of last season. Instead, in Painter’s case, they signed a washed up starter who had been cut. That feels like a big red flag.
Then trade them

but in all honesty I think that’s more Painter than the other two
 
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