2026 B1G Tourney Session IV Thread
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You'd think JS would know better. Tge only reason I even cared who ended up winning that match is so Rocco could reach a goal and enjoy it. Anyone looking at it know the seeding at that weight doesn't mean ****. It's gonna be a dog fight for all of them regardless of how they are all seeded. Hell....this is one of the very few tourneys in a long time that I that I don't care where our guys are seeded. I just don't.
Well, then it's a good thing you're not a ref, because it wasn't even 1% a support point THAT WAS HELD AND USED TO SUPPORT.
If you can't see that, then I can't help you.
All of the national pundits and other fan bases that fawn over everyone. You hear about MM,Haines,Duke,blaze,mendez,Davino,SVN, Ferrari x2, Forrest, lockette, and more rather consistently. Josh Barr just dominates but is not often referenced or mentioned.
I've always been a hater so I didn't add to that list.
This problem is happening precisely because the officials DONT want to live with human error. They’re trying to legislate tough calls out of the sport. That’s why we have the edge stall rules which suck. It’s why they’ve expanded reaction time to the point if the call is even close they can just say “reaction time” a punt on it.
They’re afraid of being yelled at. They’re afraid to do their jobs and that makes them unqualified to continue.
Do we really want to live in the world where you can plant someone on their shoulder with a mat return with a second left on the clock and it not be a takedown because of some theoretical reaction time that very clearly had no effect on the position? It helped you guys today. It might cost you a title tomorrow. So just evaluate it on the actual merits.
Updated points:
Penn State
A giant huge gap
Two really angry guys, one with a dark tan and the other a whining little ***** with gray hair.
Penn State
A giant huge gap
Two really angry guys, one with a dark tan and the other a whining little ***** with gray hair.
It’s ok. You can have your opinion. I can have mine. It’s a really bad match up for Marcus.
Yeah I see a lot of people saying Mendez is a given. Why?
He’s losing bonus race to MM and JB now by a mile, no?
Who cares? If he wants to be a coward and ban me he can do it.
Most of you should know I’m not here to troll. I was defending Haines as a deserving winner 15 minutes ago on HR. This is much bigger than PSU. The sport is in crisis.
You've been MIA here pretty much most of the
Im.glad you came to ***** about this.
I thought you died.
What happens if you take away Welsh’s arm there? Does he fall on his face or somehow levitate without the SUPPORT of his hand?
The only way he was able to react was because he had that support point down.
285 Final- #1 Taye Ghadiali (MI) vs. #2 AJ Ferrari (NEB)
Period 1:
There's no Cole, so here's the 285 final. Not much action through the first couple minutes. Lots of circling, tying up & hand fighting so far. AJ shoots, but can't get there. Ghadiali counters, but no luck. Back to tying up & circling. AJ drops to a leg, but Ghadiali fights him off. Tying up & pushing to end the period. 0-0
Period 2:
Ghadiali takes down. He works to a quadpod, but AJ brings him back to the Resilite. Ghadiali works back to a quadpod, but not for long. AJ gets Ghadiali bellied out on the edge. Out of bounds & restart. Ghadiali is still down. AJ rides Ghadiali around the mat. Ghadiali rolls, but can't get away. Michigan throws the brick & is looking for locked hands.
Challenge lost, the score stays 0-0. Back to action. Ghadiali is still down. Ghadiali sits out, but AJ stays with him. Ghadiali gets to his feet, but AJ drops to a leg & drives him out, restart. Ghadiali is still down. AJ goes over 1-min of RT. Ghadiali works to his feet, but AJ trips him back to the Resilite. Ghadiali turns, but AJ gets a leg. AJ gets a stall call, then brings Ghadiali back down to the mat. Ghadiali gets a stall warning too. AJ rides out the period. 0-0, AJ +1:57 RT (AJ lost 3-sec of RT when he got hit for stalling)
Period 3:
AJ takes down. He works to his feet & gets the escape, 1-0. AJ still has 1:46 in riding time. Collar ties & pushing in the center. AJ shoots & gets to a leg. Ghadiali counters. AJ re-counters & they go out of bounds, neutral restart. Ghadiali pushes forward taking AJ to the edge. AJ circles around the edge & drops to his knees. AJ grabs a leg. Ghadiali is trying to work behind & then he does. Ghadiali gets the TD, 3-1. Wow! Great effort by Ghadiali. AJ gets another stall call, point Ghadiali, 4-1. AJ is down injured now. Manning doesn't look happy.
Back to action. AJ has riding time locked up, 18-sec left. Ghadiali takes down on the restart. AJ concedes the escape, 5-1, neutral start. AJ shoots, but Ghadiali blocks him off. AJ keeps coming, but can't find an opening & time expires. AJ adds a RT point, 5-2, but that doesn't matter. What a comeback by Ghadiali!
Taye Ghadiali DEC AJ Ferrari 5-2
Ghadiali takes 1st Place!
Period 1:
There's no Cole, so here's the 285 final. Not much action through the first couple minutes. Lots of circling, tying up & hand fighting so far. AJ shoots, but can't get there. Ghadiali counters, but no luck. Back to tying up & circling. AJ drops to a leg, but Ghadiali fights him off. Tying up & pushing to end the period. 0-0
Period 2:
Ghadiali takes down. He works to a quadpod, but AJ brings him back to the Resilite. Ghadiali works back to a quadpod, but not for long. AJ gets Ghadiali bellied out on the edge. Out of bounds & restart. Ghadiali is still down. AJ rides Ghadiali around the mat. Ghadiali rolls, but can't get away. Michigan throws the brick & is looking for locked hands.
Challenge lost, the score stays 0-0. Back to action. Ghadiali is still down. Ghadiali sits out, but AJ stays with him. Ghadiali gets to his feet, but AJ drops to a leg & drives him out, restart. Ghadiali is still down. AJ goes over 1-min of RT. Ghadiali works to his feet, but AJ trips him back to the Resilite. Ghadiali turns, but AJ gets a leg. AJ gets a stall call, then brings Ghadiali back down to the mat. Ghadiali gets a stall warning too. AJ rides out the period. 0-0, AJ +1:57 RT (AJ lost 3-sec of RT when he got hit for stalling)
Period 3:
AJ takes down. He works to his feet & gets the escape, 1-0. AJ still has 1:46 in riding time. Collar ties & pushing in the center. AJ shoots & gets to a leg. Ghadiali counters. AJ re-counters & they go out of bounds, neutral restart. Ghadiali pushes forward taking AJ to the edge. AJ circles around the edge & drops to his knees. AJ grabs a leg. Ghadiali is trying to work behind & then he does. Ghadiali gets the TD, 3-1. Wow! Great effort by Ghadiali. AJ gets another stall call, point Ghadiali, 4-1. AJ is down injured now. Manning doesn't look happy.
Back to action. AJ has riding time locked up, 18-sec left. Ghadiali takes down on the restart. AJ concedes the escape, 5-1, neutral start. AJ shoots, but Ghadiali blocks him off. AJ keeps coming, but can't find an opening & time expires. AJ adds a RT point, 5-2, but that doesn't matter. What a comeback by Ghadiali!
Taye Ghadiali DEC AJ Ferrari 5-2
Ghadiali takes 1st Place!
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This is a wrestling forum and we can just disagree..
Js wasn’t being a dick just stating his opinion.
A ban or warning is weak sauce..
Make a good point and argue with him..
I think he’s right on a broad scale but he missed the mark on this instance
The plant on the mat return was ruled after time expired, not that it wouldn’t have been a takedown if time was still there. I think you’re not arguing what you think you’re arguing.
Wow, how original. That's so insightful, and creative. Refs are constantly being called blind by fans in the stands. As a ref, you learn to laugh about it, as it quickly proves how little the person calling it out is.
The rest of your post is just nonsense.
1. it hasn't been a TD for 50 years
2. the refs didn't reinterpret anything
3. the call has been CORRECT all year
4. sorry if you don't like the rules, but the rules as written and as called are not killing the sport
5. you are comparing the sequence with Haines and the sequence with McEnelly as identical? Thanks for providing me with a chuckle. As refs like to say when we are in training or discussing things, no two situations are identical. Each is unique, and must be called based on what transpires
I'm done responding to you. I try to assist folks in understanding the rules. If they chose to disagree with the rules and make disparaging comments about me, then I'm wasting my time.
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@Tom McAndrew killed wrestling (20,000 BC - 2026 AD).
I know it’s impossible for you to think outside of blind team loyalty so you wouldn’t understand.
I don’t even care about the hawks much anymore. Not fun to watch and not competitive. This isn’t about PSU hate. Clearly the best program of all time and a joy to watch wrestle. This was just a breaking point after an entire season of this mess with the officials.
I agree 100% with your thoughts but we can't want matches decided by what we want rather than the stated rules. I liked the old rule, but we would be in even a worse situation if some of the refs decided to ignore the new rule and just defer to the old "better" rule. I still want a 3 point reversal, a zero point escape, and a push out rule, but it wouldn't be great if I started officiating and just enforced my desires. The rules people need to have some balls.
What a session! Congrats to all the winners. Blaze lost a tough one but he’s gonna be dangerous at NCAAs. I think he’s only one that can slow down Forrest
You do realize Blaze has a 3-2 record against Davino. Blaze definitely didn’t deserve to win today. I think he will have a different game plan if they meet again
You don’t understand the rules. Not surprised you’re an official. That seems to be a requirement.
If that really was the case, no ref would ever set foot in Iowa City or Lincoln.
You could also become a ref so you could do the job correctly.
Josh Barr should be outlawed from wrestling. It's simply not fair. Like I said yesterday, he is Aaron Brooks, 2.0.
I don’t care about freestyle. I can have my opinion. I’m a PSU fan and I don’t want them in semis together.
Initial look at NCAA seeds:
Lilledahl - 1
Blaze - 3 or 4
Davis - guessing 10-15, need to see final coaches poll
Van Ness - 1
Duke - 1
Mesenbrink - 1
Levi - 1
Welsh - 1
Barr - 1
Mirasola - probably 9-10, need to see final coaches poll
We're getting 7 (!) #1 seeds out of 10 weights.
Lilledahl - 1
Blaze - 3 or 4
Davis - guessing 10-15, need to see final coaches poll
Van Ness - 1
Duke - 1
Mesenbrink - 1
Levi - 1
Welsh - 1
Barr - 1
Mirasola - probably 9-10, need to see final coaches poll
We're getting 7 (!) #1 seeds out of 10 weights.
Mcenelly had something to do with that.
21 Guns. Is that you? Welcome back. You were right when you insisted we need 8 scoring wrestlers. That really turned things around for the team.
