I will take Breadens drama over Beau's drama.
2026 B1G Tourney Session IV Thread
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oldmanferrari looked like a potential Iranian terrorist while sitting mat side today. 
No. That category is worth 10 pts and is scored 10-0.
Reminder that NCAA Seeding is a simulated round robin. Each sim match is scored according to the seeding criteria with pre-determined splits. The wrestler who goes 32-0 in the sim gets the 1, 31-1 gets the 2, etc.
The cheat code for NCAA seeding is: start with the coaches' rank. Then adjust with H2H where applicable. Those 2 categories correlate most closely to the actual seeds.
At 10%, Conference Placement is relatively minor and generally gets washed out over the course of the full round robin. Chances are it doesn't really make much difference because 2 guys in the sim are already differentiated by other categories.
I personally couldn't care less about these awards (kinda like Cael and co), and Mendez has had an amazing year (but Tom Ryan too?) . But it does sometimes seem like a concerted effort to not give all the prizes to Penn State regardless of merit.
It's like they don't want House Targaryen to have all the gold. No worries, the PSU dragon will be burning down the castle in Cleveland in 2 weeks regardless.
Crisis.... was the sport in crisis when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor
Is there a magazine PSU should be advertising in?
If Barr treats Elam in the manner I expect him to, not awarding the Hodge to Barr will be difficult
Agree with him regarding getting to his feet - and his hands off mat, but not sure I agree that they both landed on their back and neither was in a control position. McEnelly returned him to the mat from a rear-standing position and waa in a pretty clear control position as they hit the mat and after they hit the mat. Not sure what "reaction time" had to do with the mat return takedown as they hit before clock expired and McEnelly was clearly in control as they hit the mat and never lost control after hitting mat. Not saying the rule wasn't applied correctly, just saying the rationale doesn't make sense to me if correctly applied.
Pj Duke not freshman of the year? Cael not coach of the year? What **** is this
You weren't aware of the unhealthy influence that Michigan and O$U hold over the B1G (actually Big2/Other16)?
I dont know if they showed him on TV, but Manning put himself in timeout for the 197 match. He was standing by the media table off of Mat 3.
He said afterward that he definitely needed a minute to collect himself during the review but, he was fine.
This might be an example of something the best lightweight coach ever talked about. Is this guy asking the wrong guys the wrong questions?
He finished his career at tOSU. I’m guessing that there’s always going to be some favoritism shown towards guys who are at the end of their college career.
I hate the belts. I find them schlocky.
He knew it would be a beat down.
Its the Penn State can't win everything factor. I think its safe to say that Cael and PJ don't give a rip for those types of awards.
If my math is correct, that win portion is at 83%.
Neither guy ever shows a lot of emotion. Especially Blaze. Even so, Blaze has more scowl to him than normal. No doubt the loss is not sitting well with him. I get it.
I did not see any of the match, but I feel I am just as qualified to comment on it as those who did
. I believe the call was entirely correct and totally unfair. Just to clarify further.....the "Old" rule did in fact allow for reaction time as determined by the referee. Then they changed the "Old" rule to the "Less Old" rule. It stated that even instantaneous/brief finger touching was a takedown.....NO reaction time. Ask Max Dean about that rule....he got burned. This year they tossed the "Less Old" rule and allowed for some reaction time. How much? It seems to depend. It appears to me that the more the wrestler is moving...it appears to allow for more reaction time. It is still somewhat subjective, but if I were the coach.....I would say "Keep rolling and moving". OK.....are we clear now? 
I can’t think of another sport where the coaches can act like crybaby lunatics like they do in wrestling and not get suspended for it or worse.
Exactly. It's like watching grass grow....assuming the grass complains, refuses to stop for flashing police lights, stalls, insists it's trained by Jesus, claims injury whenever taken down and occasionally grabs your junk.
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he'll never catch me alive
I think we should wait until the Blood/Alcohol content is released.
Davino and Blaze are very close right now. But one team peaks in the regular season and one at nationals. I’m okay with seeing that match at nationals
Don't count out Ayala. He could sneak a win against some of those guys.
Listening to Byers on the drive home… he had PSU at 29-6. Said it a dozen times. I have them at 29-5.
Lilledahl 3-0
Blaze 2-1
Scooter 3-2
Nan Vess 3-0
Duke 3-0
Messenbrink 3-0
Levi 3-0
Rocco 3-0
Barr 3-0
Cole 3-2 (includes MFF dub)
That’s 29-5. What am I missing?
Lilledahl 3-0
Blaze 2-1
Scooter 3-2
Nan Vess 3-0
Duke 3-0
Messenbrink 3-0
Levi 3-0
Rocco 3-0
Barr 3-0
Cole 3-2 (includes MFF dub)
That’s 29-5. What am I missing?
I believe I heard him say "Penn State refs" on the TV - during his tirade
This. From the time they hit the mat with 1 second left to the time the clock expires, McEnelly was in a control position. The entire time no matter where you stop it.
This is a classic bad official understanding of control (something you used to see mostly only at the lower levels of wrestling). You don't have to completely stop your opponent's movement to be in control. You have to gain control criteria beyond reaction time. Behind both arms, supporting points down, on top for a full second here. Welsh trying and failing to roll underneath does nothing to disrupt McEnelly's control.
Again, I retract the PSU slander. This is only the latest example of this problem, not the entire problem. Next time it may burn you guys and I will be just as mad!