I guess the good guys have to settle for non voted upon awards.
Winners FanceyIs there a magazine PSU should be advertising in?
I'll have a talk with him to turn that frown upside down.Neither guy ever shows a lot of emotion. Especially Blaze. Even so, Blaze has more scowl to him than normal. No doubt the loss is not sitting well with him. I get it.
PJ is more physical than Marcus and Davino is better than Taylor. Marcus simply needs to push his pace and initiate offensive attacks.That’s exactly how Blaze must Wrestle Davino ! MEAN and NASTY…
All respect for Mike. He shows up knowing the outcome before he even shakes hands, yet he wrestles his asss off. Also, without this portal kid Iowa wouldn't be able to field a finalist.Oh goodie. I get to watch Caliendo finish 2nd again.
I was watching the replay on the screen and it was obvious as heck. What surprised me was that Snyder was still screaming at the mat judge, who called it initially, after the review and the review left no doubts.that was a correct call on the illegal hold. No surprise that it was upheld on the independent review.
Manning is an idiot to challenge that, and then to bark at the refs.
I think manning is a joke, general like Snyder, not sure from where they were sitting, they had the angle to see the figure 4I was watching the replay on the screen and it was obvious as heck. What surprised me was that Snyder was still screaming at the mat judge, who called it initially, after the review and the review left no doubts.
Heck Snyder was still screaming at him after the match.
Tell him to have his kid get a little more offensive so it doesn't come down to something like thatJust saw a Facebook post by Ferrari Sr where he was whining about Welsh, claiming he was grabbing Angelo’s singlet during their match.
Duke/Taylor last time, it happens. Ben asked that something to say about this. Just get your offense on early and don't depend on one last second call.This. From the time they hit the mat with 1 second left to the time the clock expires, McEnelly was in a control position. The entire time no matter where you stop it.
This is a classic bad official understanding of control (something you used to see mostly only at the lower levels of wrestling). You don't have to completely stop your opponent's movement to be in control. You have to gain control criteria beyond reaction time. Behind both arms, supporting points down, on top for a full second here. Welsh trying and failing to roll underneath does nothing to disrupt McEnelly's control.
Again, I retract the PSU slander. This is only the latest example of this problem, not the entire problem. Next time it may burn you guys and I will be just as mad!
Which of course is not the definition anymore.His hand was on the mat
Not to dig up the Dead Horse.🫏
But Pyles states around 1146 mark that the replay official told him there was less than a second (0.9 seconds officially) when Rocco shoulders hit the mat. No takedown, disclaimer: the opinions of the host or the content of this episode, Don't necessarily reflect the opinions of the poster
Meanwhile you make it all about PSU. Man up and admit your bias!Simple question: what happens to Welsh if you take away that hand in that second. Does he fall on his face or does he magically levitate?
People with your mindset are killing the sport. This really isn’t about PSU at this point. It’s about the state of the sport. This is just one example out of a hundred this year where those idiots are butchering the sport.
He will lose that head to head versus the field, but that is only small percent. Not sure where he will be in final coaches rankings.Sooooo Forrest only has 13 matches which means no RPI. Does that take him out of 1 seed discussion?
I got my tickets for 125 ish a piece for the BIG tournament. They were upper deck, but still in the building.Tried multiple times to score PSU wrestling tix this year and each time tickets were into the hundreds of dollars per seat. Sure, tournament tickets dipped some in the last few week due to oversaturation of the resell market, but we had already made other plans for watching. I’m sure there are other people in the same boat, high interest in attending, but not dropping hundreds of dollars for one event.
Good God, stop it. Penn State fans aren't the ones who changed the rule and don't have a say on the merits of it. Penn State kids (see Duke v Taylor or Mirasola v Feldman) have been on the receiving end of reaction time BS this year. The reaction time was a problem waiting to happen, but the behind standing caused an uproar so this is what we got.This problem is happening precisely because the officials DONT want to live with human error. They’re trying to legislate tough calls out of the sport. That’s why we have the edge stall rules which suck. It’s why they’ve expanded reaction time to the point if the call is even close they can just say “reaction time” a punt on it.
They’re afraid of being yelled at. They’re afraid to do their jobs and that makes them unqualified to continue.
Do we really want to live in the world where you can plant someone on their shoulder with a mat return with a second left on the clock and it not be a takedown because of some theoretical reaction time that very clearly had no effect on the position? It helped you guys today. It might cost you a title tomorrow. So just evaluate it on the actual merits.
Absolutely not out of the discussion. Let's see what the final coaches' rank says first.Sooooo Forrest only has 13 matches which means no RPI. Does that take him out of 1 seed discussion?
His parents and uncle festerWho is rooting for Ferrari to win Hwt?
He's no more reluctant to shoot on Davino than on Ayala.Marcus question... obviously the kid is All-World and I think he has a fantastic chance to win it all this season. That said, what are people's best guesses as to his reluctance to shoot on Davino? Was it too much respect for Davino's scrambling ability, too much reliance on his own amazing counterattacks, Davino's defense too strong, or something else?
Snyder=Manning Jr. Manning starts crying and one second delay Snyder starts crying.I think manning is a joke, general like Snyder, not sure from where they were sitting, they had the angle to see the figure 4
Davino messed up,I think Marcus had something to do with it. That's wrestling.He seems calm, but you dont
They are 1-1 but tbh Davino messed up last time. Can’t go to TB vs him
He doesn't let up and when he is finishing his TD, his ability to torque someone into submission is brutal.Josh Barr should be outlawed from wrestling. It's simply not fair. Like I said yesterday, he is Aaron Brooks, 2.0.
The truth is that Marcus should have lost his first match with Davino also. I don't think he actually has the offense to get to Davino, so I think if he wants to win the next one it's time to make that leap of faith and win a scramble or two. Right now Davino has a blue print: get a leg in each period, hang out there with it, and kill 30 to 60 seconds in each period and not allow Blaze to get his timing off. The next one to hang out on a leg in each period needs to be Marcus. These matches are RAZOR thin so you need that one little thing that Dake had against Taylor. In the first match that was Marcus winning that scramble to get that reversal. It goes to ride outs and it's not going to happen without a hail Mary
Reversals are part of wrestling not hail Mary'sThe truth is that Marcus should have lost his first match with Davino also. I don't think he actually has the offense to get to Davino, so I think if he wants to win the next one it's time to make that leap of faith and win a scramble or two. Right now Davino has a blue print: get a leg in each period, hang out there with it, and kill 30 to 60 seconds in each period and not allow Blaze to get his timing off. The next one to hang out on a leg in each period needs to be Marcus. These matches are RAZOR thin so you need that one little thing that Dake had against Taylor. In the first match that was Marcus winning that scramble to get that reversal. It goes to ride outs and it's not going to happen without a hail Mary
Hypoxia makes it really hard to think and AJ had a very low oxygen level towards the end of the match.Way to go Taye winning that match. AJ had that and got stupid.
Yeah. 10%. Not sure it’s enough, but didn’t realize he was under 15He will lose that head to head versus the field, but that is only small percent. Not sure where he will be in final coaches rankings.
JS says they did.7-1 and the only loss coming in the tiebreakers. PSU would’ve won in a PSU vs B1G dual!
Did they even allow a takedown in the finals?
This. From the time they hit the mat with 1 second left to the time the clock expires, McEnelly was in a control position. The entire time no matter where you stop it.
This is a classic bad official understanding of control (something you used to see mostly only at the lower levels of wrestling). You don't have to completely stop your opponent's movement to be in control. You have to gain control criteria beyond reaction time. Behind both arms, supporting points down, on top for a full second here. Welsh trying and failing to roll underneath does nothing to disrupt McEnelly's control.
Again, I retract the PSU slander. This is only the latest example of this problem, not the entire problem. Next time it may burn you guys and I will be just as mad!
It was a Hail Mary in the first match in thr sense that it was the only possible way he could win the match at that point and it required everything to go right in that exact moment including an elite opponent allowing for the opening. I think, as we’ve seen in both matches, that scenario favors Davino and it should be one Marcus takes steps to avoid by changing his approach.Reversals are part of wrestling not hail Mary's
Tom,Its your call but I would humbly request some mercy or at least a timeout for js vs a total ban.
I’ll gladly take the other side here. Tom doesn’t need to show grace to someone who twice insulted him and then said he would be a coward for reacting accordingly.Tom,
I have to offer a second to Cali's motion you show JS some grace.
Then ran to the Iowa board bragging about it.I’ll gladly take the other side here. Tom doesn’t need to show grace to someone who twice insulted him and then said he would be a coward for reacting accordingly.
Yeah, I don't really care that much about what happens here but I would note what my uncle charlie, who spent about 50 years in pro baseball, once told me about arguing with umpires. You can/should be able to say any word except one: "you". And that line was kinda crossed.I’ll gladly take the other side here. Tom doesn’t need to show grace to someone who twice insulted him and then said he would be a coward for reacting accordingly.
The dark horse is seidel. He will now have an rpi and has better conference placement than Blaze.He will lose that head to head versus the field, but that is only small percent. Not sure where he will be in final coaches rankings.