Maybe they actually planned ahead.
which is why you see a lot of kids in central Africa walking around in scarlet bathrobes.
2026 B1G Tourney Session IV Thread
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which is why you see a lot of kids in central Africa walking around in scarlet bathrobes.
0:00 - Intro & Start of Show
01:00 - Allocations & Wild Card Small Talk
06:45 - IVY League & Teams Qualifying 10
11:55 - ACC Championships
18:45 - Big Ten Finals & Consis
23:50 - 133 NCAA Seeds at Big Tens
30:00 - Big Ten Awards
40:50 - 149lbs - 174lbs
53:40 - 184lbs and Rocco vs Max
01:08:20 - 197lbs and Heavyweight
01:18:50 - Big Ten Team Scores
01:27:00 - After Show
Very similar with Haines; when he gets in on a leg, he's going to finish...except against Minto. Minto is going to win at least one NCAA championship before he's done, he's a freak athlete and rapidly becoming a better wrestler.
Barr's style is a combination of Haines and Messenbrink. I think the only guy in the country capable of even giving him a match the next two seasons is his backup.
They made one in advance for each of the major teams for contingency purposes (except perennial Rutgers). Minnesota’s is on its way to Ethiopia. Iowa’s is in the garbage at the BJC somewhere. Ohio State’s is being mounted prominently on their wall of champs this afternoon.
Two notes that I figure are worth sharing:
1. For all the **** Davis gets, he sure seems like a team guy and was the biggest fan of his teammates throughout the finals. He jumped out from that group watching from matside as super supportive.
2. Marcus Blaze had every reason to hang in the back after he lost. Instead after a cooling down period, the podium ceremony, and watching whichever one of his teammates was wrestling at the time, he then came over to sign as many autographs for kids as he could before the next matches started. Thought that was incredibly impressive from a freshman who lost his first Big Ten title chance in tiebreaker.
1. For all the **** Davis gets, he sure seems like a team guy and was the biggest fan of his teammates throughout the finals. He jumped out from that group watching from matside as super supportive.
2. Marcus Blaze had every reason to hang in the back after he lost. Instead after a cooling down period, the podium ceremony, and watching whichever one of his teammates was wrestling at the time, he then came over to sign as many autographs for kids as he could before the next matches started. Thought that was incredibly impressive from a freshman who lost his first Big Ten title chance in tiebreaker.
Pretty sure there was one year Rutgers had 10 qualified for NCAAs. Matter, you remember which year?
Rutgers brags every year about qualifying 10 for the Big10s.
2016
I editorialized what CP said. I cannot believe the wrestling/mat clocks go down to more than a tenth of a second. Ie, they don't go to hundreths of a second, like for example in the 100-m dash.Christian said .009 seconds, pretty sure. Honestly didn't know they had time beyond hundredths of a second!
Start at 11:50, it is within 15-20 seconds after.
PJ Duke reminds me of Cary Kolat, he wants to hurt people.
My final word from Big Tens: Don't call this Cael Sanderson's best Penn State wrestling team just yet, but it took another step toward that honor Sunday.
By the time he settled in - wth does that mean? McEnelly clearly was in control of Welsh when he lifted him and returned him to the mat. He remained in control through hitting the mat - Walsh never separated from McEnelly during the mat return so i'm not sure what is meant when the Ref says "by the time he settled in".... he never lost control of Welsh at any moment of the mat return including after they hit the mat.
I am guessing.. and only a guess.. what they mean is there are times when they hit the mat and the wrestler being taken to the mat is able to roll thru and negate the take down.. A match like Bartlett and Mendez from a couple years ago comes to mind.. not a slam.. but Bartlett had Mendez dead to rights.. if the ref calls the takedown as soon as Mendez hit the mat Bartlett is the winner but he rolled thru and came out behind and won.. Mendez did.. so in this case.. I don't think it is the second Welsh hits the mat.. but rather when it is clear McEnelly is in control and Rocco isn't going to roll thru etc.. Just guessing what they meant..
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This is sorta my question from earlier. Does the “reaction time” clock start when they’re both standing and no one has been “taken down” to the mat yet? Per Bausch podcast Rocco is in the air at 1.0.
He needs reminded to wrestle mean and nasty against everyone and he will never lose at Nationals. That’s the key for PJ. Promise you Taylor will focus on PJs underhook now
A good guess. If the offensive wrestler lifts a wrestler off the mat, they do not attain a TD the instant the defensive wrestler is returned to the mat.
Too many of you are parsing statements, or looking at portions of a rule.
I keep trying to steer folks toward looking at TDs from the perspective of establishing control. That's the key component. Yes, there are things like boundary lines, covering hips, or getting a second leg, etc. that all come in to play. But if all the criteria are met, then the offensive wrestler also has to establish control. At the point when that is established, and all other relevant criteria for that situation are met, then a TD can be awarded.
sorry I didn't quote Pyles exactly. To spare further back and forth here, take a listen for yourself. God bless.
So you're saying it's impossible to have a TD under 2 seconds due to "reaction time"??? (i.e., reaction time automatically saves you under 2 seconds on the clock). Because I'm somewhat confused by your example as it is completely non-analogus as Mendez created separation vs BB when thet hit the mat (and got one of BB's legs if I remember correctly), but McEnelly never lost complete control of Welsh from the time he lifted him in the rear-standing position to when he planted him on the mat - no separation, never lost his thight-waist and complete control of him. The two are not analogous imo.
I caught that, too. Physically, he looked so much better than in his first match with Taylor.
It may have been 2016. They came in 5th at B1Gs (106.5 points), which remains their high water mark. They had one champ, two 3/4s, five 5/6s and two 7/8s. So that would seem to be 10 qualifiers for NCAAs. However, most Rutgers fans think I'm delusional about the lack of progress for their program under Goodale. I am still fairly certain that if your program's best year was over 10 years ago, you have lost ground over that time.
Probably the same way they made the B1G coach of the year, freshman of the year and wrestler of the year awards : )
I really appreciate what you bring as far as knowledge and understanding of the rules but it seems in this case it is a bit subjective what establishing control means . I am convinced that control was established and seems like there are a few others while there is a good portion who feel it wasn’t . It is what it is and perfect example of agreeing to disagree.
With the exception of Cael, Casey and Cody Rutgers has the same advantages as PSU. Location relative to recruits, a loyal fan base that would expand measurably with success and a large alumni with money.
I agree. But they lost me as a season ticket holder (and a lot of other fans) with their regression on the mat, their lost of the best part of their coaching staff, their failure to adequately replace them and their rapacious parking policy.
Go figure - actually looking at the text of the rule was enlightening:
It is not simply “gains control” of the opponent, but “gains control by taking the opponent to the mat in bounds and beyond reaction time”.
And reaction time is in the discretion of the ref but not instantaneous. Hard to quibble with a no takedown call where total time on the mat is somewhere south of one second. At the very least, hard to quibble with not overturning such a call
thanks for your patience tom. As a lawyer, I should have known to actually read the rule.
I don't know. I assumed, large alumni, wealthy alumni, large wrestling fan base they should be able to generate $$$ support.
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Also, PJ reportedly has a hard cut. On Sunday, he had ~ 7 hours to refuel (plus the additional one pound weight allowance). I'd guess he weighed closer to 165 than 157 by time he took the mat.
I'd say he's been winning that way in big matches for a while, that's pretty consistent. Wrestling that style is gonna bite you in the *** every once in a while. You are in there with another elite athlete
Does it even matter...could be a T-Rex and if that PJ shows up...is there a hotline for battered former Apex predators?
I know, WAAAAAAAY too cart-before-the-horse, but an interesting and amusing thought just popped into my head after reading this, re: next year's roster: Mitch v. Minto?
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53:40 - 184lbs and Rocco vs Max
you will get a good explanation from people who know wrestling and the rules
Guess we know his vote was for Big Ten Coach of the Year.
For Jax, that might be wrestling Seidel before he gets to Blaze.