'25 (in-season) - '26 CFB Portal Thread

Itraindogs

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It's been said by those who know more than I, but Durant's regression this season had much more to do with lack of size next to him than it did his overall performance. He had Ellies, Izzard, Beamon, and Ford in years past. Durant was essentially playing out of position as he was expected to take on double teams which limited his quickness that helped him thrive in 1:1s in 2024.

Franklin struggled mightily to bring in big DTs in his tenure. And maybe it had something to do with our traditional recruiting footprint? Those guys don't grow on trees and good ones get plucked by teams with $$$. Campbell and Lynn have gone West Coast/Midwest with their ties to snag this recently re-tooled DT room.
I am not sure it was an inability to bring in those guys. It always appeared that the preference was for twitched up guys throughout the line versus true space eaters; sacks, TFLs, disruption seemed to be the objective versus holding the point of attack and allow your LBs to make plays. One reason why Knowles failed miserably here was because PSU did not have true DTs on the squad nor were they willing to pay top dollar on the open market.
 
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WPB_lion

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Won't work. Many of you want to drop the b10 because of their rules. You wanted emert gone because of rules.

When The rules don't go your way you will complain.

Ps. The sec will always break whatever rules are in place.
The rules in the NFL aren't being broken so why do you think a similar set of rules will be broken by Colleges?
 

WPB_lion

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Indiana is not a unicorn, nor will Cignetti star chase with or without money. Cignetti is the first to truly master the new landscape of college football. He understands that: 1. your are only assured of keeping a player for one year; they can transfer every year. So, he pays for production, not potential. 2. He also values players who fit his system; not those with the most talent. His blue-chip ratio in in year two was 8%. Ole Miss' bllue chip ratio was 40% or 19th nationally. Alabama was at 73% and looked like as*.

What is interesting is that the three teams with the highest blue chip ratio (Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State) did not get past the first round of the playoffs,

More and more coaches are already buying into this model (pay production more, less for potential). Think Moneyball. Its the future. I think Campbell is cut from the same cloth.
Check back in 3 years and see if Indiana's blue-chip ratio is 8% and they are still enjoying the same success as they are currently. If this is the case, then I will agree, Indiana is not a unicorn and Cignetti is an absolute savant at identifying non-blue-chip talent. If either of the foregoing change for Indiana, and there are no other teams with a blue-chip ratio of 8% in the semi-finals of the college playoffs, then I stand by my statement that Indiana is a unicorn.
 
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Funny how quickly he changed his mind after his agent fired him for his conduct since the agent wasn’t going to ruin his reputation.
The situation is a little more nuanced as Williams had the same agent as Fisch, the head coach. Not as black and white as it is portrayed.
 
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Tom McAndrew

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PSU was trying to get involved, but Traut was the 1st coach to show interest here when he entered the portal, and Traut ends up winning the battle:

 

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It's been said by those who know more than I, but Durant's regression this season had much more to do with lack of size next to him than it did his overall performance. He had Ellies, Izzard, Beamon, and Ford in years past. Durant was essentially playing out of position as he was expected to take on double teams which limited his quickness that helped him thrive in 1:1s in 2024.

Franklin struggled mightily to bring in big DTs in his tenure. And maybe it had something to do with our traditional recruiting footprint? Those guys don't grow on trees and good ones get plucked by teams with $$$. Campbell and Lynn have gone West Coast/Midwest with their ties to snag this recently re-tooled DT room.
It did feel like Franklin just never could bring in the monster sized DTs and this was an issue for the team makeup. It can be helpful to have at least one of the regular DTs be a large space occupying guy and that can help for the partner DT or DEs to be more mobile. Having the whole DL be undersized can be a problem when dealing with more talented opponents who can push you around which I think was part of the issue with the performance vs top 10 teams (our speed/agility was typically effective versus teams with overall less talent).

I'm curious to see how this new philosophy works in action for PSU.
 
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TheWizardofCamelot

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Now I will say this - it's obvious we're bulking up the front 7, but can these guys move and be productive? 6'6 335lbs looks great on paper, but can these guys disrupt the OL?
 
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KingLando

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Indiana is not a unicorn, nor will Cignetti star chase with or without money. Cignetti is the first to truly master the new landscape of college football. He understands that: 1. your are only assured of keeping a player for one year; they can transfer every year. So, he pays for production, not potential. 2. He also values players who fit his system; not those with the most talent. His blue-chip ratio in in year two was 8%. Ole Miss' bllue chip ratio was 40% or 19th nationally. Alabama was at 73% and looked like as*.

What is interesting is that the three teams with the highest blue chip ratio (Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State) did not get past the first round of the playoffs,

More and more coaches are already buying into this model (pay production more, less for potential). Think Moneyball. Its the future. I think Campbell is cut from the same cloth.
All 3 or those teams made the quarters with Bama winning a game to do so while one can argue that the other 2 suffered because of the layoff
 

Nits1989

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Indiana is not a unicorn, nor will Cignetti star chase with or without money. Cignetti is the first to truly master the new landscape of college football. He understands that: 1. your are only assured of keeping a player for one year; they can transfer every year. So, he pays for production, not potential. 2. He also values players who fit his system; not those with the most talent. His blue-chip ratio in in year two was 8%. Ole Miss' bllue chip ratio was 40% or 19th nationally. Alabama was at 73% and looked like as*.

What is interesting is that the three teams with the highest blue chip ratio (Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State) did not get past the first round of the playoffs,

More and more coaches are already buying into this model (pay production more, less for potential). Think Moneyball. Its the future. I think Campbell is cut from the same cloth.
It's totally Moneyball now. PSU will get immediate production from the Iowa State starters.
 

LMTLION

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it has been surprising. at least some of the hits are players that wanted more $$, and tOSU wouldn't accede to the requests.
There seems to be this notion among all the fanbases, including our own, and the players themselves, that this money is endless, and that schools will just “ throw them a bag” to attract and retain talent, regardless of that players actual production. It’s just not true, even at OSU.
 
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Who here remembers these days mid 80s at SMU...

Texas Governor and SMU Board Chairman Bill Clements famously told SMU President Donald Shields to "stay out of it" and "go run the university" during the mid-1980s football pay scandal, justifying continued illegal payments to players with the phrase "a payroll to meet," creating a moral obligation to honor promises despite NCAA probation, a stance he later apologized for as SMU faced the NCAA's "Death Penalty".
 

Itraindogs

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All 3 or those teams made the quarters with Bama winning a game to do so while one can argue that the other 2 suffered because of the layoff
If the layoff was indeed responsible (correlation does not entail causality), then the coaches failed at their job. Notice that Indiana,too, had the same layoff but put belt to as* on Bama
 

Itraindogs

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They'll be fine don't get me wrong. But it feels like the Buckeyes are taking a bit of a hit in the portal this offseason.
They are. I enjoy Zach Smith's podcast on Rumble (though Kris talks way too much), and when he is on it is super-informative. He is discussing the current exodus and according to what is representing, OSU is losing players because they will not pay "market value" for them.
 

Itraindogs

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It's totally Moneyball now. PSU will get immediate production from the Iowa State starters.
And it should be. Offensive line players are a crap shoot. Williams and Birchmeir were 5* who sat on the bench. What is your return on investment when they walk in year 3. Why not go get yourself a 1 or 2 year rental that you know can play. Lower tier schools are flush with players who developed late or were not scouted correctly. That is where you look for players that you know can play versus hs kids