'25 (in-season) - '26 CFB Portal Thread

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Didn't OSU win it last year?

Another who doesn't understand the definition of "value proposition". Didn't duhO$U generate a -$40 million deficit in their Athletic Department last year (FY2024)? Hasn't their Pro-fligate spending continued? Didn't they exit the Pro Minor-league Football Playoffs after their first game this year - losing by 10 going away to a team they were favored to beat by at least 9.5 Points (i.e., 10 points) at game time?
 

Itraindogs

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This makes complete sense. Given that you are paying players why would you pay top dollar to high schoolers for potential when you can pay college players who have demonstrated production at the college level. This does NOT mean you do not recruit high school players but the compensation structure should reflect 1, that you may lose your investment in development (they can leave) and 2. They will likely not play for a while unless they are at a certain position or are athletic freaks.
 
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harjeff

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What percent care about academic credits? I guess less than 20%
They may not care, but they do have to get through university acceptance and schedule classes prior to the start of the semester, otherwise they cant be in school and be training and practiciing with the team.
 
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WVilleLion23

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They may not care, but they do have to get through university acceptance and schedule classes prior to the start of the semester, otherwise they cant be in school and be training and practiciing with the team.
Schools have to just be rubber stamping these now more than ever. No way in hell all these players that are hitting portal for 2nd, 3rd time, etc. are truly academically eligible to play.
 

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Schools have to just be rubber stamping these now more than ever. No way in hell all these players that are hitting portal for 2nd, 3rd time, etc. are truly academically eligible to play.
If universities turn them down, they’ll just get the courts involved and the courts seem to always side in favor of the athlete.
 
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This makes complete sense. Given that you are paying players why would you pay top dollar to high schoolers for potential when you can pay college players who have demonstrated production at the college level. This does NOT mean you do not recruit high school players but the compensation structure should reflect 1, that you may lose your investment in development (they can leave) and 2. They will likely not play for a while unless they are at a certain position or are athletic freaks.

Exactly. And by extension, effective talent evaluation in the Professional Minor-League Free Agency Market (let's call it what it is) and prioritization of player-acquisition budget is lightyears more important than player-acquisition spending for HS recruits.
 
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If universities turn them down, they’ll just get the courts involved and the courts seem to always side in favor of the athlete.

The courts are not going to rule in favor of the Universities or players when the Federal Government gets involved (a National Pro Football Minor League is subject to Federal Authority) and Pro-legiate National Minor-League Football is the only National Sports League without a Federal Anti-Trust Exemption.
 

Bison13

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Schools have to just be rubber stamping these now more than ever. No way in hell all these players that are hitting portal for 2nd, 3rd time, etc. are truly academically eligible to play.
So many of these kids do much of their course work online, of which much of it is transferable, especially gen ed courses.

Kids only need to take 24 credits a year to be full time, so during the season they go full online for 9-12 credits, spring they take 12-15 as a mix of in person and online. Then in summer they take 1 each session as needed, these would generally be labs in person that they can’t do during the season due to practice times.
 
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Psurosco

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Another who doesn't understand the definition of "value proposition". Didn't duhO$U generate a -$40 million deficit in their Athletic Department last year (FY2024)? Hasn't their Pro-fligate spending continued? Didn't they exit the Pro Minor-league Football Playoffs after their first game this year - losing by 10 going away to a team they were favored to beat by at least 9.5 Points (i.e., 10 points) at game time?
So the athletic department had a $40M deficit. How much of that was attributable to the football team?

You should also look at Miami's NIL spend. They are right up there with OSU in the top tier.

Who had a better ROI on CFB football NIL spend this year OSU or PSU?

 

Itraindogs

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If universities turn them down, they’ll just get the courts involved and the courts seem to always side in favor of the athlete.
Acceptance into an academic institution is not court dependent. There is nothing a court can say if academic requirements are x, students are required to meet x, and an athlete does not meet x. Universities cannot legally be made to take a student-athlete (even if student is in word only).
 

Bvillebaron

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Trade up from Reynolds
Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t that equate to 25 receptions and a little over 300 yards per season? Someone said he reminds him of Jesse James so I guess he isn’t a kick *** blocker. How many Iowa State games have you watched to form your conclusion that he is better than Reynolds? I hope he is great but can we pump the brakes until he actually plays a single down at Penn State?
 

Bvillebaron

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Amazing what a fresh set of eyes has on players and production. He is cleaning house and it needed to be done. BGJ can take back all of the PSU cast offs
Yeah Coleman, Grunk; etc suck and all those Iowa State transfers are future All Big Ten and All Americans. Geez.
 

Bvillebaron

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Well, it didn't have to cost anything except some reasonable revenue share money.

But Campbell was - as seems obvious - married to bringing in "his" mid-B12 rental QB instead.
A very Pittsburgh Pirates-ish trade, IMO.
👍👍👍
 

Bvillebaron

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Campbell is doing an exceptional job. While some are agonizing about losing individual players, this is to lose the forest for the trees. Campbell is focused on cultivating a new culture and to do this requires individuals who are familiar with his system and, more importantly, his cultural demands. People are hand-wringing about Grunk, but Campbell is likely going to lean on Becht to set the tone in the locker room. The kid is tough as nails and I am sure he will have no reservation having a come to Jesus discussion with any pouters.
What flavor Kool Aid are you drinking these days. As I have said before, I like the Campbell hire and hope he wins those Big Ten and National Championships Kraft promised but call me old fashioned in that I prefer to see how Penn State does when they start playing games this September. I am particularly interested in seeing how Becht does at Penn State vs how Grunk does at wherever he goes.
 
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Bones80

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Assume Campbell follows Knowles to Vols. Knowles hurt this defense this year and will next year as well.
 

Itraindogs

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Sounds like this wasn’t Amare’s choice. Wonder who we have coming in?
It was Amare's choice. He and the GM disagreed on his compensation. This happens. Hopefully he makes what he thinks he deserves.

In an organizational restructuring, compensation levels change and new benchmarks are established. This invariably leads to attrition. Definitely sorry to see him go, but at the same time you do not let employees set the terms of their employment or how much they get paid.
 
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It was Amare's choice. He and the GM disagreed on his compensation. This happens. Hopefully he makes what he thinks he deserves.
This means Amare couldn’t name his price. Fans AND players are going to have to get used to moneyball—it’s not about how much talent or experience you have, it’s simply a cost/value analysis. We’re lucky we now have a GM who understands that instead of what Franklin was doing.
 
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yeah, the longer this went without Campbell announcing for the portal, the more I thought he would return. I presume they were working hard to keep him, but for whatever reason, the two sides couldn't find an agreement.

Last sentence of his post makes it sound like Campbell's agent is telling him he can get more than he is being offered by PSU elsewhere. Campbell specifically uses the term that he is being "undervalued again" (first time by UNC, now PSU). So it sounds like it comes down to $$$, like any other Professional Sports League in regards to Free Agents.
 

NittanyChris

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I definitely wanted Amare Campbell to return. It's a loss. Long-term, I think Tatsch has more upside. Next man up!