'25 (in-season) - '26 CFB Portal Thread

rigi19040

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They do know this
It's part of life...often times you chase things only to realize things aren't always better. Decisions have consequences and they made their choice.
I don't feel bad for any kid listening to a parent or agent who chased money and came up empty.


False. None of them were guaranteed jobs if they stayed. They are just as likely to be left without a seat at the table if they stayed.

Many of the players left homeless were walk-ons.
 

KingLando

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False. None of them were guaranteed jobs if they stayed. They are just as likely to be left without a seat at the table if they stayed.

Many of the players left homeless were walk-ons.
They had a scholarship--they left to chase something better. It's a risk they take that isn't anyone's problem but their own. Now they deal with the ramifications of overestimating their value. Just when people quit a job because they think they're better than they are--that's life.

I don't care at all if they never play or go to college again--they made their choice.
 
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rigi19040

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They had a scholarship--they left to chase something better. It's a risk they take that isn't anyone's problem but their own. Now they deal with the ramifications of overestimating their value. Just when people quit a job because they think they're better than they are--that's life.

I don't care at all if they never play or go to college again--they made their choice.

No. Every player is listed in the portal including walk ons who did not have scholarships. Some walk ons end up with scholarships when they originally had none.

Second flaw is some players were encouraged to leave.

Third flaw. Who are you to say what is better for a player? Is more money worse? Is sitting in the bench with no playing time, better?


Two posts later you praise two players for making a great decision. Make up your mind.


Great decision by both of them to go to Toledo--they should be able to get PT


45 psu players in the portal. 38 already have new scholarships. 7 TBD. 2 walk ons in the portal. One has a scholarship.

If any of our players end up without a scholarship thy either can't play or are a problem.
 

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No. Every player is listed in the portal including walk ons who did not have scholarships. Some walk ons end up with scholarships when they originally had none.

Second flaw is some players were encouraged to leave.

Third flaw. Who are you to say what is better for a player? Is more money worse? Is sitting in the bench with no playing time, better?


Two posts later you praise two players for making a great decision. Make up your mind.





45 psu players in the portal. 38 already have new scholarships. 7 TBD. 2 walk ons in the portal. One has a scholarship.

If any of our players end up without a scholarship thy either can't play or are a problem.
You're not making any sense
I'm saying if someone elects to go to the portal that's their decisions. If they don't land a scholarship that's on them. Literally no one else.

I praised two guys for dropping down a level to play which is what everyone that isn't capable to starting at a major problem should be doing.

Again. You're just rambling nonsense.
 
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You're not making any sense
I'm saying if someone elects to go to the portal that's their decisions. If they don't land a scholarship that's on them. Literally no one else.

I praised two guys for dropping down a level to play which is what everyone that isn't capable to starting at a major problem should be doing.

Again. You're just rambling nonsense.
That’s the plus side (if you want to call it that) - you will see an improvement in play from the mid-major teams as they will get better talent making a step down for increased opportunities to play.
 

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That’s the plus side (if you want to call it that) - you will see an improvement in play from the mid-major teams as they will get better talent making a step down for increased opportunities to play.
Completely agree--hard to find "positives" but that is a big one
 

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That’s a real life lesson.
Hopefully a warning for kids next portal season. With the trend of schools/gms looking for production rather than high school stars potential, moving forward it will be riskier for a number of the unproven backups to hit the portal next season unless willing the risk of g6, fcs or d2.
 
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That’s the plus side (if you want to call it that) - you will see an improvement in play from the mid-major teams as they will get better talent making a step down for increased opportunities to play.
I’m not disagreeing with you but the flip side of that is that many of those mid-major teams will likely lose some of their best players to the portal as well. Transferring up.
 

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Basically it just a one year commitment anymore then on to the next, rinse, repeat.
That is why I wonder if at some point schools will be enabled to offer multi-year contracts, with the incentive being that those contracts will be higher paying.
 
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Imagine losing it all because you’re unwilling to work for it where you are now or you think you are still the superstar you were in high school. The families probably play a part in this as well. It is sad. The portal definitely works for some, but I would bet it is harmful overall to most student athletes considering only 1.5% make it to the NFL (and less make it beyond a few years in the nfl.) Relying on AI for this stat, but only one percent of NCAA athletes make more than $50,000 per year in NIL compensation. Most kids should stay at their school to get a degree and operate as a student athlete first rather than just a football player.
 

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I’m not disagreeing with you but the flip side of that is that many of those mid-major teams will likely lose some of their best players to the portal as well. Transferring up.
I’m not an expert, but it appears that many experts feel it creates more parity overall.
 
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I would like Hayes back but that rb room is really crowded.
Hayes will find a spot. He is too talented not to, though his lack of film and production in college put him at a disadvantage. Either one of the schools who recruited him out of high schools steps up or he can drop down a level and play.

Not sure what the dynamics are at work but if I were a GM and a player would ask to come back I would make them an offer at a significant reduction from the year prior. If they say no, then, no hard feelings. Find a better spot.
 

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Hopefully a warning for kids next portal season. With the trend of schools/gms looking for production rather than high school stars potential, moving forward it will be riskier for a number of the unproven backups to hit the portal next season unless willing the risk of g6, fcs or d2.
It wont be. They'll have the "wont happen to me" attitude. Helped along by their leech agents and greedy families.
 

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One thing with regard to the D3 kids, there are quite a few of them in the portal who never should have been on a college football roster, even at that level. I was an asst D3 basketball coach for a couple years at a small liberal arts school (<1000 kids). Our president told the head coach that she wanted him to bring in at least 10 freshmen a year. Same with the girls team, soccer teams, etc. Football though, she wanted at least 50. The thought process is that they can admit whoever they want and whether it be via paying their own way or through government Pell grants and such, they wanted to keep a minimum amount of money coming in each year. She wanted at least 300 freshmen per year and sports were a way to get at least half that.

They knew some of them would leave after a semester/year when they didnt make the travel roster or flunk out but their hope was that even if they didnt make the team, they would find enough reason to stay at the college due to a boyfriend/girlfriend, frat/sorority, liking their professors, etc.

We didnt have the 'portal' back then and my guess is that at least a few hundred of the D3 kids in there now are the kids that are like what I mentioned above, they thought they were legit going to play at the school but were just brought in for numbers and now they are looking for another school to do the same thing to them.
 

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One thing with regard to the D3 kids, there are quite a few of them in the portal who never should have been on a college football roster, even at that level. I was an asst D3 basketball coach for a couple years at a small liberal arts school (<1000 kids). Our president told the head coach that she wanted him to bring in at least 10 freshmen a year. Same with the girls team, soccer teams, etc. Football though, she wanted at least 50. The thought process is that they can admit whoever they want and whether it be via paying their own way or through government Pell grants and such, they wanted to keep a minimum amount of money coming in each year. She wanted at least 300 freshmen per year and sports were a way to get at least half that.

They knew some of them would leave after a semester/year when they didnt make the travel roster or flunk out but their hope was that even if they didnt make the team, they would find enough reason to stay at the college due to a boyfriend/girlfriend, frat/sorority, liking their professors, etc.

We didnt have the 'portal' back then and my guess is that at least a few hundred of the D3 kids in there now are the kids that are like what I mentioned above, they thought they were legit going to play at the school but were just brought in for numbers and now they are looking for another school to do the same thing to them.
If anyone had Anthony Ivey to San Jose State I strongly suggest you play the lottery ASAP.
 

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It wont be. They'll have the "wont happen to me" attitude. Helped along by their leech agents and greedy families.
Most of those left without a seat when the music stops are guys who would have been simply cut/processed in the pre-portal days. So nothing really changed.
Which really is rather an obvious conclusion - since the number of available slots nationwide is not different.... actually just a bit larger.... than the number of slots available before the "portal" was initiated.

The only other meaningful change wrt "spots available" is the recent tendency for the NCAA :) to say "sure, fine" to allow many kids to play 5-6-7 years (which is another issue for another day). But that is not a huge impact on spots available - and not related to the portal, of course.
 

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Most of those left without a seat when the music stops are guys who would have been simply cut/processed in the pre-portal days. So nothing really changed.
Which really is rather an obvious conclusion - since the number of available slots nationwide is not different.... actually just a bit larger.... than the number of slots available before the "portal" was initiated.

The only other meaningful change wrt "spots available" is the recent tendency for the NCAA :) to say "sure, fine" to allow many kids to play 5-6-7 years (which is another issue for another day). But that is not a huge impact on spots available - and not related to the portal, of course.
I actually think your last part about the kids staying five or more years, whether it be for the money or whatever reason, it does have a big impact. I don’t have the exact number about early entrants into the draft, but a couple years ago there were over 120, now it’s maybe 30. That’s 100 spots and then there’s another group of a similar amount counting all those guys who get extra years. Donte Moore, chambliss, the Cincy QB all would have declared before all this NIL stuff
 

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I actually think your last part about the kids staying five or more years, whether it be for the money or whatever reason, it does have a big impact. I don’t have the exact number about early entrants into the draft, but a couple years ago there were over 120, now it’s maybe 30. That’s 100 spots and then there’s another group of a similar amount counting all those guys who get extra years. Donte Moore, chambliss, the Cincy QB all would have declared before all this NIL stuff
Oh, you are for sure correct, it DEFINITLY has an impact. How much? One could actually go through rosters and get a decent number.

But wrt the OP issue at hand - kids left without a seat due to "entering portal":
It would be irrelevant (ie, they woulda' been left without a seat regardless of portaling or not). All the extra 5/6/7 year kids mean more "others" left without a seat - but would have been left without a seat regardless of portal-ing.
Just would be like the "old days", where we all called it "processing" (funny how you don't hear people talking about "processing" anymore :) even though it is obviously the same thing - but they just "process" through the portal now)
 

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Most of those left without a seat when the music stops are guys who would have been simply cut/processed in the pre-portal days. So nothing really changed.
Which really is rather an obvious conclusion - since the number of available slots nationwide is not different.... actually just a bit larger.... than the number of slots available before the "portal" was initiated.

The only other meaningful change wrt "spots available" is the recent tendency for the NCAA :) to say "sure, fine" to allow many kids to play 5-6-7 years (which is another issue for another day). But that is not a huge impact on spots available - and not relate




Many did not have scholarships to begin with. Portal includes walk ons.
 
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