-3.5 vs MSU

[18IsTheMan]

Line opened about -7 but moved quickly to -3.5

 

[Cockofdawn]

Line opened about -7 but moved quickly to -3.5

Sounds about right,, A neutral field, it is probably a "Pick 'em"...

 

[92Pony]

I'm fairly concerned given our lack-luster showing Saturday and the building buzz around MSU and their QB.....

 

[18IsTheMan]

I'm fairly concerned given our lack-luster showing Saturday and the building buzz around MSU and their QB.....

I feel like I've seen this movie a thousand times. We have not historically handled it well.

 

[cockyferg]

Historically, we have made these QBs look like Tom Brady when they have this sort of hype.

 

[I4CtheFuture]

We'll eat him alive all day and he might leave on a stretcher.

I said the same thing when UT came to Columbia with ? (Hooker, was it?) - UT was heavy favorites and we clobbered them, and their QB left on a stretcher. Just as I stated before the game. - I'm guessing 4 sacks , maybe 5.

 

[Bubba Fett]

I don't bet but if USC drops to -3 I think that's a good bet.

 

[18IsTheMan]

We're a very slight favorite, basically a pick 'em. But MSU and their QB are the talk of college football right now. Everyone will be picking them to win this weekend.

 

[RL09]

Sellers needs to show up and have a solid game this Saturday, this is a game we have to win to have a winning season in my opinion.

 

[Lurker123]

I'm fairly concerned given our lack-luster showing Saturday and the building buzz around MSU and their QB.....

But did we even give maximum effort these past two weeks? They were glorified practices.

 

[18IsTheMan]

But did we even give maximum effort these past two weeks? They were glorified practices.

I don't know which would be worse.

Either we weren't giving our best effort, which shows a lack of control by the coaching staff and/or no commitment/buy-in from the players.

Or we were giving our best effort, which isn't particularly encouraging given how we looked against Towson.

 

[Lurker123]

I don't know which would be worse.

Either we weren't giving our best effort, which shows a lack of control by the coaching staff and/or no commitment/buy-in from the players.

Or we were giving our best effort, which isn't particularly encouraging given how we looked against Towson.

Good point.

 

[Cockofdawn]

I don't know which would be worse.

Either we weren't giving our best effort, which shows a lack of control by the coaching staff and/or no commitment/buy-in from the players.

Or we were giving our best effort, which isn't particularly encouraging given how we looked against Towson.

Great points, and I agree. The only "PASS" i give them is Weather, One was hottest game ever at Willy=B, the other a Monsoon and a Weather delay!! I wish they would have been tested in one or the other, but wasnt really. I think this year is gonna be UGLY w/o Stewart and Peak... I am actually wondering if Stewart will even Play this year, looking like a bif NO, right now... They keep saying he is progressing well, but months ago they were saying " he will be back for the Miss St game". Maybe even seeing time in the Towson Game, Now he is sitting again this week...

 

[18IsTheMan]

Great points, and I agree. The only "PASS" i give them is Weather, One was hottest game ever at Willy=B, the other a Monsoon and a Weather delay!! I wish they would have been tested in one or the other, but wasnt really. I think this year is gonna be UGLY w/o Stewart and Peak... I am actually wondering if Stewart will even Play this year, looking like a bif NO, right now... They keep saying he is progressing well, but months ago they were saying " he will be back for the Miss St game". Maybe even seeing time in the Towson Game, Now he is sitting again this week...

Is it confirmed he's out this week?

 

[92Pony]

..... Now he is sitting again this week...

Is it confirmed he's out this week?

I think there was a 'depth chart' that came out yesterday with both Peak and Stew absent. We all know Beamer's depth charts are about as trustworthy as his injury updates. The true(r) tell will be tomorrow when the official one has to be put out for the SEC.
That's the way I understand it anyway.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I think there was a 'depth chart' that came out yesterday with both Peak and Stew absent. We all know Beamer's depth charts are about as trustworthy as his injury updates. The true(r) tell will be tomorrow when the official one has to be put out for the SEC.
That's the way I understand it anyway.

I hate all the subterfuge with Beamer's injury reports. It's not just that he's not specific about when they are expected back, but he always makes it sound like their return to the field is right around the corner. "He's close, really close. Trending the right direction. Doctors are pleased with where he's at right now."

 

[JohnnySolo]

Chances of winning increased significantly above. What service is that based on? Or did the originator wake up feeling cocky today?

 

[RUMMENIGGE]

I think there was a 'depth chart' that came out yesterday with both Peak and Stew absent. We all know Beamer's depth charts are about as trustworthy as his injury updates. The true(r) tell will be tomorrow when the official one has to be put out for the SEC.
That's the way I understand it anyway.

A lot of fiction and gamesmanship with the injury status. I think Coach Muschamp did this with D.J Wonnum.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

We're a very slight favorite, basically a pick 'em. But MSU and their QB are the talk of college football right now. Everyone will be picking them to win this weekend.

That's the way we like it! Talk 'em up, right up to game time!

 

[gamecock stock]

We have played 2 marshmallows to open the season. Miss State has played one marshmallow and one FBS opponent, Does that scheduling give us an advantage or disadvantage?

 

[I4CtheFuture]

Great points, and I agree. The only "PASS" i give them is Weather, One was hottest game ever at Willy=B, the other a Monsoon and a Weather delay!! I wish they would have been tested in one or the other, but wasnt really. I think this year is gonna be UGLY w/o Stewart and Peak... I am actually wondering if Stewart will even Play this year, looking like a bif NO, right now... They keep saying he is progressing well, but months ago they were saying " he will be back for the Miss St game". Maybe even seeing time in the Towson Game, Now he is sitting again this week...

I said two weeks ago Stewart won't play this year or will be extremely limited in playing time.

Beams said he hasn't even hit the sleds yet and no contact of any kind yet. - So, yeah, he ain't playing this season. Beams just wanted to drag it along to string the fans along until the season actually started. He was banking on winning distracting the fans, IMHO.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I said two weeks ago Stewart won't play this year or will be extremely limited in playing time.

Beams said he hasn't even hit the sleds yet and no contact of any kind yet. - So, yeah, he ain't playing this season. Beams just wanted to drag it along to string the fans along until the season actually started. He was banking on winning distracting the fans, IMHO.

Yeah, I dunno. If he hasn't been participating in football activities since last season and we're 3 games into the season this week, it doesn't look great. If/When he comes back, he'll start with limited action. If he's out this week (which it seems like) that's 1/4 of the season.

 

[JohnnySolo]

I wish he would just walk away so maybe we can allocate his misappropriated funds to someone else that actually wants to wear garnet and black and hit someone. I would add him to the list of high profile players that didn't live up to the hype or didn't pan out. But he is in a category all by himself. He never played!!!!

 

[18IsTheMan]

I wish he would just walk away so maybe we can allocate his misappropriated funds to someone else that actually wants to wear garnet and black and hit someone. I would add him to the list of high profile players that didn't live up to the hype or didn't pan out. But he is in a category all by himself. He never played!!!!

I'm not alleging he's holding himself out. Assuming he's been out this long b/c of injury and is still not back to 100% football activities, it's not like he's gonna come back against Bama and play 50 snaps. If he's out this week, maybe he's back in limited action in Game 4 and 100% by Game 6?

 

[Piscis]

I'm not alleging he's holding himself out. Assuming he's been out this long b/c of injury and is still not back to 100% football activities, it's not like he's gonna come back against Bama and play 50 snaps. If he's out this week, maybe he's back in limited action in Game 4 and 100% by Game 6?

If his back was really as seriously injured as Beamer alluded to late last season, he may never play football again. I know people who have had back injuries and they have never fully recovered and have to be very careful about what sort of physical activity they engage in. It would only take one twisting block by a huge offensive tackle to reinjure his back and put him back at step one.

If Stewart really isn't back to practicing, and hasn't practiced any since last November, I don't look for him to reappear any time soon if at all this season. He is approaching 10 months with no full practice or football activities. If he doesn't play this week, how much could he possibly play in the next couple of weeks?

When Peak was first injured, it was reported that he would be out for the season. I think Beamer is lying about both players conditions to appease the fans and give the fans hope that one or both will be back.

 

[JohnnySolo]

How would NIL contributors feel if Beamer was stretching the truth this long just so Stewart can get paid. If he hasn’t played any football up to this point he’s not going to play at all.

 

[The Reel Ess]

But did we even give maximum effort these past two weeks? They were glorified practices.

Lazy route running, dropping balls costing us TDs. The OL and RBs look good. One RB has a tendency to fumble. If he keeps that up against SEC teams we'll be holding our breath every touch.

 

[Piscis]

How would NIL contributors feel if Beamer was stretching the truth this long just so Stewart can get paid. If he hasn’t played any football up to this point he’s not going to play at all.

I think the fact (if it is a fact) that he hasn't been practicing says a lot more than anything Beamer can say. We are close to the point where someone needs to look Beamer in the eye and say "don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining".

 

[18IsTheMan]

Lazy route running, dropping balls costing us TDs. The OL and RBs look good. One RB has a tendency to fumble. If he keeps that up against SEC teams we'll be holding our breath every touch.

That's the thing that concerns me about the not giving maximum effort theory is that things like running routes is all about consistency. It becomes muscle memory. You can't just be lazy about in the first 2 games and then decide you want to run crisp routes in your first SEC game. But maybe they just aren't good.

 

[Piscis]

That's the thing that concerns me about the not giving maximum effort theory is that things like running routes is all about consistency. It becomes muscle memory. You can't just be lazy about in the first 2 games and then decide you want to run crisp routes in your first SEC game. But maybe they just aren't good.

This is why I hate playing two cupcakes to start the season. The team wins big, puts up gaudy numbers and thinks they are much better than they are. Playing against overmatched opponents reinforces the bad habits and lackadaisical attitude since the end result looks good and fans and media tell them how great they are. It is hard for coaches to get the message across to a player who had great stats in the first two games that he is not really playing at an elite level.

Then, when a legit opponent shows up and is knocking the team around, the players are sort of lost as to what is happening.

 

[18IsTheMan]

This is why I hate playing two cupcakes to start the season. The team wins big, puts up gaudy numbers and thinks they are much better than they are. Playing against overmatched opponents reinforces the bad habits and lackadaisical attitude since the end result looks good and fans and media tell them how great they are. It is hard for coaches to get the message across to a player who had great stats in the first two games that he is not really playing at an elite level.

Then, when a legit opponent shows up and is knocking the team around, the players are sort of lost as to what is happening.

There's definitely a downside. Some like the cupcake games as glorified practices. But, reality is you can not play well and still win by an impressive looking score. We beat Towson 45-9, but if we play at the same level on Saturday, we'll get trounced.

It's concerning that in Year 6 of the Beamer tenure, we still show up and play sloppy and undisciplined against a team like Towson.

 

[Lurker123]

There's definitely a downside. Some like the cupcake games as glorified practices. But, reality is you can not play well and still win by an impressive looking score. We beat Towson 45-9, but if we play at the same level on Saturday, we'll get trounced.

It's concerning that in Year 6 of the Beamer tenure, we still show up and play sloppy and undisciplined against a team like Towson.

Different conversation, but if we're going to play 2 patsies, I would prefer they were separated on the schedule.

A break mid year would serve our team better than two straight practice games. Imo

 

[Piscis]

Different conversation, but if we're going to play 2 patsies, I would prefer they were separated on the schedule.

A break mid year would serve our team better than two straight practice games. Imo

This. Open with a cupcake to warm up and get backups some live game experience and then schedule another mid season for homecoming to let the banged up starters have a little break and get the backups some more experience.

 

[The Reel Ess]

That's the thing that concerns me about the not giving maximum effort theory is that things like running routes is all about consistency. It becomes muscle memory. You can't just be lazy about in the first 2 games and then decide you want to run crisp routes in your first SEC game. But maybe they just aren't good.

Yeah, I forgot to mention the DB giving up on his WR who scored the TD. Total brain fart. But that DB probably won't see the field against an SEC team.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Different conversation, but if we're going to play 2 patsies, I would prefer they were separated on the schedule.

A break mid year would serve our team better than two straight practice games. Imo

I'm generally opposed to playing the cupcakes, but yes, it doesn't make much sense to play 2 right up front. In a world where we play 2, playing one later in the season to break up the brutal schedule makes more sense.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Yeah, I forgot to mention the DB giving up on his WR who scored the TD. Total brain fart. But that DB probably won't see the field against an SEC team.

Who was that? It's one thing to just get beat, but he just gave up on the play.

 

[kidrobinski]

Yeah, I forgot to mention the DB giving up on his WR who scored the TD. Total brain fart. But that DB probably won't see the field against an SEC team.

“That db” was vicari swain. In his defense the rain was heavy at that time and it’s easy to not find the ball in the lights when you look back with rain like that, which is what happened looked like to me.

 

[18IsTheMan]

“That db” was vicari swain. In his defense the rain was heavy at that time and it’s easy to not find the ball in the lights when you look back with rain like that, which is what happened looked like to me.

The announcer did say he lost the ball, but I would think you would just stay with your man anyway. But I'm not a DB.

 

[92Pony]

This. Open with a cupcake to warm up and get backups some live game experience and then schedule another mid season for homecoming to let the banged up starters have a little break and get the backups some more experience.

The only problem with that though, is, do we have any control over the SEC schedule? Beamer says we now have 9-straight. I would guess no, and we have to work in OOC games around the conference schedule, set by the conference. That's the way I assume it is (I could be wrong).

 

[Piscis]

The only problem with that though, is, do we have any control over the SEC schedule? Beamer says we now have 9-straight. I would guess no, and we have to work in OOC games around the conference schedule, set by the conference. That's the way I assume it is (I could be wrong).

May be, I don't know. I still stand by my thought that P4 schools should not be allowed to play any non P4 schools. This is professional football now. Players should have to play against other players who are on their same level.