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GLR5555

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Crankdatmustard said:
Would finish the season with at least 7 wins against the RPI top 50 and at least 14 wins against the RPI top 100 (could be more in both with the SEC tournament).

That is a resume of a #1 seed.

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Agree. I just hope for a very good performance and result Saturday in Gainesville. Gonna be a tough game for our young Cats.
 
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Bluesnky

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Everyone is upset about the Kansas game, but the Tennessee game is the real problem. That game portends more losses, whereas a narrow loss to Kansas could still be followed by running the table in the SEC.
 
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And nothing I saw from them when we are playing to our abilities tells me we cant beat everyone
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except that we haven't been playing to the best of our abilities in a while. Couple that with the awful calls we get, and we're realistically looking at 2-3 more losses. Hey, a 3 seed is a great accomplishment for most programs. Not every team can be a 1.
 
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Unless there is some serious stumbling above us, the one seed is off the table. They had to do better than 1-3 for big non conference games. No way the committee is giving us a one seed when hey can find any excuse not to. They probably won't give us a two now.
 
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CHAMPCAT11

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Crankdatmustard said:
that is a complete overstretch. Other teams are going to lose.
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I agree and love your optimism but we're going to lose again, probably more than once. I hope I'm wrong but nothing we're doing right now indicates we're going to go on a run. I'll be happy to be wrong and take my hat off to you if we somehow pull that off.
 
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Dakota25

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UK isn't running the table. 2-4 losses which puts them around 24-7. I think that gets them a 3-4 seed
 
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docholiday51

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Crankdatmustard said:
And nothing I saw from them when we are playing to our abilities tells me we cant beat everyone
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Two weeks ago that would have been doable for this team,what we have seen since that time not a chance.The Zags and probably Nova are lock one seeds,probably KU or Baylor is another one.Arizona/UCLA or someone out of the ACC will probably get a one,there are only 4 seats at the one table.We had our chances,we were in a position to get one but couldn't take care of business it is just that simple.
 
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Panthur

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What freaks me out is our Pomeroy-rated adjusted defensive efficiency actually went up three notches as a result of our two losses.
 
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Whatever25

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Whether people want to keep ignoring it or not Florida is a top 10 RPI team and we can possibly face them three times.
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That is true. I just don't see the committee caring that UK beats Florida. We aren't going to get much credit for beating anyone in the SEC. Losses hurt us, and victories only marginally help us. Sad but true, IMO.
 
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yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851

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We may not lose another game.
We might possibly lose 1 more, then SEC tournament is a crap shoot.
A loss in the SEC tournament would probably be the best thing that could happen to these guys.
 
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Panthur

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JasonSpear said:
probably because the other teams that were ahead of UK also lost and played poorer defense. I'd say the rise in ranking had more to do with other teams' defense and not UK's, comparatively.
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Absolutely. I'm not suggesting it means anything either. I just think it's interesting.
 
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Panthur

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JasonSpear said:
when you lose two straight games due to **** defense yet rise 2-3 spots in the defensive efficiency rankings...

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[roll]
 
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StubbornPenny said:
except that we haven't been playing to the best of our abilities in a while. Couple that with the awful calls we get, and we're realistically looking at 2-3 more losses. Hey, a 3 seed is a great accomplishment for most programs. Not every team can be a 1.
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forget about the calls against us. those don't matter if we are winning with margins. we need to play consistent defense and let people who are in a good shooting rhythm shoot. i see briscoe and monk forcing shots when kicking it out to willis for an open 3 would be the better move.
 
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kevcat

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I'm not sure how high the ceiling is for this team.

Let's be realistic, if Monk doesn't go bonkers against the Heels, this team is 0-4 against quality opponents.

Factor in a bad loss at Tennessee, not to mention the unthinkable, two home losses, and you better start winning games ASAP.

Also, the SEC is more competitive than a lot of people believe.

All of that being said, if they go to Gainesville on Saturday and win, then maybe they get their early season swagger back. But right now, this team seems to be regressing.
 
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Crankdatmustard said:
Would finish the season with at least 7 wins against the RPI top 50 and at least 14 wins against the RPI top 100 (could be more in both with the SEC tournament).

That is a resume of a #1 seed.

End of story.
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No. How can you justify deserving a #1 seed? We've lost all but one of our ooc marquee matchups. Had we beaten one of UCLA, UL, or KU then I could see the argument but as of now we're a 3. Win out or only lose 1 more and possibly a 2 seed but doubtful.
 
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kevcat

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AzubuikeandFitch said:
No. How can you justify deserving a #1 seed? We've lost all but one of our ooc marquee matchups. Had we beaten one of UCLA, UL, or KU then I could see the argument but as of now we're a 3. Win out or only lose 1 more and possibly a 2 seed but doubtful.
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Totally agree .
 
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JasonSpear said:
when you lose two straight games due to **** defense yet rise 2-3 spots in the defensive efficiency rankings...

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I'll stick with the eye test. Defensive statistics can be misleading. Playing cupcakes and a weak conference make a team gangbusters on paper. We are not a good defensive team.
 
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BourbonBalz

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Crankdatmustard said:
Would finish the season with at least 7 wins against the RPI top 50 and at least 14 wins against the RPI top 100 (could be more in both with the SEC tournament).

That is a resume of a #1 seed.

End of story.
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It would just depend on how it matches up against other teams vying for # 1 seeds. There could be four others that are more impressive. Right now I'd just like to try to secure a 2 seed. If a 1 comes, great, but I certainly don't expect it.
 
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LeonThe Camel

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Crankdatmustard said:
Would finish the season with at least 7 wins against the RPI top 50 and at least 14 wins against the RPI top 100 (could be more in both with the SEC tournament).

That is a resume of a #1 seed.

End of story.
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Except you have to look at the other schools and see if they have similar or better stats.

Look at Sagarins and you will see no less than 5 teams that already have 7 wins against top 50 teams. Those are sure to increase.
You can go further and see we may only have 2 more games against top 25 teams until tournament time. Kentucky has won 1, only Florida, Wisconsin and Wichita St have won less.
Bottom line, it is relative to the other teams.
 
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LeonThe Camel

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kev69 said:
I'm not sure how high the ceiling is for this team.

Let's be realistic, if Monk doesn't go bonkers against the Heels, this team is 0-4 against quality opponents.

Factor in a bad loss at Tennessee, not to mention the unthinkable, two home losses, and you better start winning games ASAP.

Also, the SEC is more competitive than a lot of people believe.

All of that being said, if they go to Gainesville on Saturday and win, then maybe they get their early season swagger back. But right now, this team seems to be regressing.
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The problem is Florida is an over rated team but we may need to hang our hats there.

Florida is 0-3 against top 25 teams and 2-4 against top 50 teams. There best OOC win is Miami.
 
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kevcat

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LeonThe Camel said:
The problem is Florida is an over rated team but we may need to hang our hats there.

Florida is 0-3 against top 25 teams and 2-4 against top 50 teams. There best OOC win is Miami.
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Good point about Florida. I guess just winning out is the best scenario.
 
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Going to be awfully tough to win out. I said a few weeks ago I expected to lose 1 or 2 SEC games on the road and now after losing at home to Kansas which I did not expect I find it awfully difficult to think they will win out. They have some tough road games coming up plus the SEC tournament is always going to have to some tough games.
 
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BourbonBalz

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There is zero doubt we're the best team in the SEC by a considerable margin. But, we still lost to an average UT team. Nothing is assured.
 
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StubbornPenny said:
Nothing I've seen from our team lately or the SEC officiating tells me we can run the table from here on out. 2-3 more losses, 3-4 seed.
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The thing is, most top 10 teams will have around 2 more losses as well to finish out the year - we just can't have bad losses. Splitting with Florida would be fine, but we can't lose to a Georgia type team (especially at home). Luckily, we only have 1 bad loss, Tenn. Luckily, all the top teams are losing right now. That helps.
 
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marshalfan

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The thing is, most top 10 teams will have around 2 more losses as well to finish out the year - we just can't have bad losses. Splitting with Florida would be fine, but we can't lose to a Georgia type team (especially at home). Luckily, we only have 1 bad loss, Tenn. Luckily, all the top teams are losing right now. That helps.
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You are right Florida is a very quality team. They were 10 in the Massey ratings last time I looked. I hope that I am wrong but think UF beats us at gainesville
 
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