No. Just like I’m not denying that billionaires and corporations get massive tax breaks and often never fulfill their requirements.
There’s a big difference between a corporation that employs people getting a tax break and a lazy person that doesn’t want to work having everything paid for by taxpayers. Those aren’t the same. The billionaires and corporations are at least making an effort. I’m ok with providing subsidies to people IF they are trying. It’s obvious through SM and the numbers that we have a huge swath of people not even trying. They just take and take, I’m not ok with that. There’s a 1000 videos on SM of welfare recipients demanding their free stuff, exclaiming I work for them, showing off their 1000$ grocery trips, etc. Enough man.
Where’s the 4.4% coming from? Just haven’t seen that. Still too high imo. We aren’t in a position to be handing out things to anyone.
So corporations and billionaires stealing from the govt is ok but poor people stealing from the government is not. Gotcha.
Got that from GROK when i asked it directly what percentage of SNAP benefits got to non citizens.
Ok. This is what it gives me. That’s why I asked.
I said different. Not ok. Those people aren’t stealing from the government. They’re stealing from you (if you work) and me. Many of them can work, and should. This is why I don’t agree with most liberals. I don’t believe in transferring wealth like that. Just because you had a kid here doesn’t mean I have to pay for it. Personal and individual responsibility and accountability. That’s what we want. Not nanny state.
You conveniently omitted anything about the half a trillion dollars of tax evasion annually. That is a much bigger number than welfare fraud. And it’s also committed by those who already have significant means, versus those who are struggling. Neither is ok, but focusing your energy on the poor guy stealing $100 and not the billionaire stealing a few million seems misguided.
PPP loan forgiveness fraud was horrible. Of course IMO the economy should have largely remained open through Covid.
Why not both. I say let’s team up and fix both of them. I’d gladly fight along side you to make sure corporations are paying their fair share if you’d fight with me to rid ourselves of waste and abuse. Honestly that would truly benefit you and I the most. But we are so divided and the powers that be intend to keep it that way.
The crazy thing is I didn’t even know what that was. That’s how little I give a **** about those programs. That’s how much I think they will help me lol. I’ve heard some crazy stories about it recently though. Robbery.
The problem is they are given protected status which in the minds of many means they are not illegal.
100% robbery. I liked the general idea of helping people through a hard time, making sure that small companies kept their doors open, and kept their people paid, kept rent paid for bigger corps, etc etc etc, but there are so many stories of super in your face fraud. Like, drug dealer type ****. Pisses me off. Like, this is why we can't have nice things ha.
Tell us about the massive tax breaks that billionaires get.
It's already illegal to sell SNAP benefits. That doesn't stop it from happening.
Understood. Maybe we could have some stricter enforcement, harsher penalties if caught etc.
Went through this a couple weeks ago with you and you ran and hid. Feel free to look up my old posts if you want to re-engage.
I think the penalties are harsh but I also think enforcement is difficult. IMO the problem could be solved by requiring people who use EBT cards to also show a government issued photo ID. We can't even require an ID to vote so I don't expect that to happen anytime soon.
IIRC correctly I received a copy and paste list from an internet search that was mostly about corporations and they weren't what most people would consider massive tax breaks anyway. So I asked to show pick one or two that we could discuss and I got nothing but crickets.
No, you are not recalling correctly. And yes, I do know. Some I will even use this year.
You're a billionaire and you know but you can't give me one or two examples?
Nope, unfortunately not a billionaire and gave you many examples. Feel free to go back to that conversation and re-read.
You just can't remember any examples that you're willing to discuss? In other words you've got nothing.
No, I already gave you a bunch of examples. You can stop being lazy and search my history. It’s not my responsibility to keep feeding you info.
You can't point out one or two items and discuss them because you don't understand them.
you used the term "cheat" rather loosely. Are you referring to those that actually lie on their returns on those who follow the tax laws and take all the allowances allowed? There's a big difference.
